Thank you, padre, Emily. Eloquence is not my strong suit, but maybe some of what I learned during six years of university studies in literature, English and creative writing stuck with me.


An atheist started this thread with the question, "Did anyone watch the funeral?" If the atheist was honest, he would have asked the question he really wanted to ask, "Did anyone watch that sorry POS Trump at George HW Bush's funeral?"

The atheist may have seen video clips that focused on the reading of the Apostles' Creed, but I doubt that he watched the entire service. Instead, the atheist apparently took his cues from a hit piece in the leftist rag, Newsweek. It is focused only on Trump. If the atheist was a moral and principled man of virtue with a sense of honor and respect, he would have known that the service was solely a solemn celebration of the life and passing of an American patriot.

But you know full well that godless liberal progressives never pass up an opportunity to exploit even the most honorable and American of occasions to continue the unconscionable vilification of our besieged president. And, the fact that the service for GHW Bush was a profoundly religious celebration made it a particularly rich target for politicization by spiritually barren leftists.

Had the atheist watched the entire service, he would have seen B. Hussein Obama sitting smug with his nose in the air. He would have seen BJ Clinton expressionless, drooling with his mouth hanging open looking like he was about to croak. When the Episcopalian pastor of Saint Martins delivered his eulogy and prayers and spoke of GHW's absolute faith in Jesus, the atheist would have seen Michelle Obama's face screwed up in a grimace of disgust and the contemptuous smirk pasted on H. Rotten Clinton's face.

In his opening post, the atheist writes, "while all the presidents and their spouses were reciting the Apostles Creed Donald and Melania were acting like they were atheists and had no earthly clue what it was." This brings me to the hypocrisy of the atheist and every one of his inhuman secular comrades.

The Apostle's Creed begins "I believe in God . . . " The atheist does not believe in God and he is convinced that those who do have rejected science in favor of fairy tales and fantasies, he assumes that our faith in God and Jesus is built on a system of logical fallacies, and that the existence of a supernatural being is a scientific impossibility. So, I ask, if the atheist is convinced "Donald and Melania were acting like they were atheists", why would he condemn them for doing exactly the same damned thing the atheist himself would have done had he been sitting in that seat? Would the atheist have been able to honestly recite the Apostles Creed? Does the hypocrite have an "earthly clue" what the Apostles Creed really is? Would he be able to say, "I believe in God" and mean it?

Executive Order 13831-Establishment of a White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative

"We take this step because we know that, in solving the many, many problems and our great challenges, faith is more powerful than government, and nothing is more powerful than God."
President Donald Trump

Herbert Walker was a war criminal he was CIA in the Bay Of Pigs. Named Operation Zapata after Bushs oil company, Zapata Petroleum. One boat carrying Cuban Exiles was named the Barbra, another the Huston, after his home town. E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis were CIA and also two of the burglars at the Watergate break in He had a habit of naming things like his bombers The Barbra 1, ll, and lll. Bush was at the core of Iran Contra and after becoming President pardoned six convicted members of Reagans administration. And he lied us into the Gulf War with the 15 year old daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador before congress and on TV crying and slinging snot lying that Saddam's men came in to the hospital, threw all the babies on the floor and took the bassinettes. Bush then repeated the lie in a speech. His grandfather Prescott was an American Nazi that was part of the fascist scheme to overthrow FDR after he was inaugurated using Maine Corp Major General Smedley Butler leading 500,000 military personal. Prescott Bush and his firn Brown Brothers Harriman sold Nazi bonds and promoted Nazi propaganda until ordered to stop under the Trading With The Enemies Act. All three generations of Bushes were members of Skull and Bones

https://youtu.be/l6j7QF0CBUo
Herbert Walker was a war criminal he was CIA in the Bay Of Pigs. Named Operation Zapata after Bushs oil company, Zapata Petroleum. One boat carrying Cuban Exiles was named the Barbra, another the Huston, after his home town. E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis were CIA and also two of the burglars at the Watergate break in He had a habit of naming things like his bombers The Barbra 1, ll, and lll. Bush was at the core of Iran Contra and after becoming President pardoned six convicted members of Reagans administration. And he lied us into the Gulf War with the 15 year old daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador before congress and on TV crying and slinging snot lying that Saddam's men came in to the hospital, threw all the babies on the floor and took the bassinettes. Bush then repeated the lie in a speech. His grandfather Prescott was an American Nazi that was part of the fascist scheme to overthrow FDR after he was inaugurated using Maine Corp Major General Smedley Butler leading 500,000 military personal. Prescott Bush and his firn Brown Brothers Harriman sold Nazi bonds and promoted Nazi propaganda until ordered to stop under the Trading With The Enemies Act. All three generations of Bushes were members of Skull and Bones

I think I have a little authority my whole family are Christians and our youngest daughter is the closest to a real Christian as I have known most Of those I have known are hypocrites who do not follow their masters teachings. including some in my on family. They are Christian's in name only and like to think they are good because they go to church but do not love their neighbors as they love themselves. And I am not a communist. I once considered my self to be a staunch capitalist. And I know about the one that can not be forgiven the lack of faith. When I was 11 and my sister 9 the evangelist pounded his fist in the bible and told us we were sinners and were going to burn in hell for eternity unless we surrendered to god. Well my sis lived another 40 years and neither of us ever surrendered. But our baby sis surrendered when she was seven and she is a petty good Christian

I don't pass judgement on any body I only recite history. I let history be the judge. The fact that so many Christians are hypocrites is not my judgment its just a fact. Jimmy Baker was over selling tickets to his Christian Theme park and balling the church suckretay. Ted Haggard preached against homo sexuality while visiting a male masseuse and snorting cocaine. Jimmy Swaggert preached to millions on TV then drove around picking up hookers and paid them to let him look up their skirts. Its not my judgment is just facts of the matter. But, oh yes they can all be forgiven. Its not the acts its the hypocrisy. Jesus told his disciples to sell all their stuff and give it to the poor. The original Christian religion was a religion of the poo. Now a days there are Preachers preaching god wants them to be rich and god will get them four dollars back for every dollar they put in the pot . That's just history not my judgment

I don't pass judgement on any body I only recite history. I let history be the judge. The fact that so many Christians are hypocrites is not my judgment its just a fact. Jimmy Baker was over selling tickets to his Christian Theme park and balling the church suckretay. Ted Haggard preached against homo sexuality while visiting a male masseuse and snorting cocaine. Jimmy Swaggert preached to millions on TV then drove around picking up hookers and paid them to let him look up their skirts. Its not my judgment is just facts of the matter. But, oh yes they can all be forgiven. Its not the acts its the hypocrisy. Jesus told his disciples to sell all their stuff and give it to the poor. The original Christian religion was a religion of the poo. Now a days there are Preachers preaching god wants them to be rich and god will get them four dollars back for every dollar they put in the pot . That's just history not my judgment

You will never tire of pretending you know what president Trump thinks and how he feels, will you? You should think about avoiding such pretentious conceit so you don't come across as a self-absorbed, hate filled ignoramus.

The service for George HW Bush was an elegant celebration in praise of a great American, it was a loving farewell to a man who served America all of his life. To assume this service was a political slap at anyone, a "roast", is demagoguery most foul. This begs the question, what the hell have you done in service to our nation?

If you want to wallow in political sewage so you can critique behavior, body language, and facial expressions, maybe you should have watched the service in its entirety. The close up camera shots of the faces and mannerisms of all the presidents, their wives, and GHW's family and friends is revealing.

George HW Bush wanted president Trump and Melania to attend his funeral. Prior to the service, president Trump and Melania welcomed the Bush family to the Blair House where they offered their condolences. Laura Bush wanted to see how the White House had been decorated for Christmas, so Melania gave her a tour.

The funeral of GHW Bush was a celebration of his life that transcended politics, it was an expression of love and gratitude for a life well lived, a manifestation of human spirit and praise of God far above and beyond the comprehension of mean spirited, black hearted, small minded men.

https://youtu.be/l6j7QF0CBUo
Herbert Walker was a war criminal he was CIA in the Bay Of Pigs. Named Operation Zapata after Bushs oil company, Zapata Petroleum. One boat carrying Cuban Exiles was named the Barbra, another the Huston, after his home town. E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis were CIA and also two of the burglars at the Watergate break in He had a habit of naming things like his bombers The Barbra 1, ll, and lll. Bush was at the core of Iran Contra and after becoming President pardoned six convicted members of Reagans administration. And he lied us into the Gulf War with the 15 year old daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador before congress and on TV crying and slinging snot lying that Saddam's men came in to the hospital, threw all the babies on the floor and took the bassinettes. Bush then repeated the lie in a speech. His grandfather Prescott was an American Nazi that was part of the fascist scheme to overthrow FDR after he was inaugurated using Maine Corp Major General Smedley Butler leading 500,000 military personal. Prescott Bush and his firn Brown Brothers Harriman sold Nazi bonds and promoted Nazi propaganda until ordered to stop under the Trading With The Enemies Act. All three generations of Bushes were members of Skull and Bones

There are hypocrites in all walks of life, religious and otherwise. You can say "so many Christians are hypocrites", but, in terms of numbers, what does that mean exactly? Have you polled the 2.2 billion Christians on this planet? Or, has your hostility toward Christianity, your rejection of it, and your personal prejudices toward Christians led you to select only those who do not measure up to your opinion of what a good Christian should be? Have your personal relationships with family members who are Christian not colored your opinions of them? Your contempt for Christians is obvious in the manner in which you butcher words to describe them. "suckretary", Nik? Really? This is not the work of a decent man. If you are a true judge of what is or is not a good Christian, the least you could do is practice what you preach.

You have purposefully chosen TV evangelists with questionable backgrounds rather than making any mention of those who have done great good in their ministries. Is such biased selectivity not judgemental? For every Christian pastor or TV evangelist you can name who has, shall we say, fallen from grace, I can name a dozen remarkably decent and influential Christian clergymen and women who have not. Many of them provide extraordinary Bible study programs and powerful tools for gaining knowledge and seeking the truth about God and Jesus Christ.

The fact is for any enterprise to succeed in this world, money is necessary. Spreading the Word of God and the Gospel of Jesus Christ in this troubled world costs money. Money, Nik, like the gun, is morally neutral, it can be used for good or evil. Some evangelists make money for its own sake, and others make it to support and carry out the evangelical mission as Jesus commanded, to "go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature."

There are many people in countries all over the world who are hungry for the Word of God as Jesus taught it, some of those countries are dangerous for Christians, and many evangelists and missionaries have taken great risks in spreading the Gospel, many have been tortured and killed.

Hatred corrodes the container in which it is carried.

I try not to hate because I know that hate corrodes. It destroyed Richard Nixon ,and I recognize that there are many pastors who do a lot of good and that money is needed to spead the gospel. I don't live in a vacume in fact where I live in California there are as many churches peer dq mi that any bible thumping state but as far as I can asertain non of them preach politics from the pulpit like they do in the Bible belt. Religion was never an issue with me untill the rise of men such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robinson and John Hagee who preach politics from the pulpit and enjoy tax exemptions at the same time. I revere men such as Mahatma Gandhi, Cesar Chavez, Martin Luther, All of them were a rare breed.
Gandhi a Hindu once said " I realy like your Christ, but do not care for your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ"