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Mar 16, 2014 03:07:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Kevyn wrote:
There are a few right wing African Americans they are often referred to within the community as Uncle Toms or OREO's, brown on the outside and white on the inside. The perception is that they have sold out to the man for small personal gain. In many instances this perception is accurate.


What a punk thing to say!

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Mar 16, 2014 04:20:21   #
koondy3 Loc: Connecticut
 
fom wrote:
Thankyou very much You put yourself forward most eloquently and completely fair and without bias Very refreshing.

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Thanks, fom! I'm glad my post was to your liking. I do hope to improve, though. I'm poking-out my text, letter by letter, on a cellphone; and I find it a bit of a chore. Often, by the time I get to the end of a sentence, I have to scroll back, to see what, exactly, I was saying and how I was saying it. When I do that, sometimes I lose half the text and have to start over. I have other unfortunate cell phone experiences, too; but like I said, "I do hope to improve".
So, once again, I thank you for completing my post; but I can't help but be curious, as to what, if any, bearing it may have had on your original post. For instance: Does Thomas Sowell get to live? I guess, what I'm wondering is, if you started this thread with a question or subject you are troubled with...or are you just curious about how people will answer it...or what. When you get a chance, let me know...huh?

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Mar 16, 2014 08:07:44   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
So back to your original statement, 'Black writers write to please their employers' would that mean other writers don't or that they write what they see?



fom wrote:
There are Black people with writeing talent who are working for right wing outlets and writing to please their employers. Some of what they write about puts other Blacks in a bad light. Is this an excuse to to believe statements bordering racism are ok?

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Mar 16, 2014 09:38:17   #
Viet Nam Vet 67-68
 
I worked at Emby Foods in Oakland Calif. and I know exactly what you are talking about, my life was threatened 3 times or more a week. So much for White Racism.

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Mar 16, 2014 10:40:25   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistreatment.I grew up in an area where there was a large population of American Indians I myself am what is known as a breed. Racism against whites is the norm there with whites having the upper hand in most things. I heard storys from old Indians about white soldiers raping Indian women and girls. They passed this on to their children. I have seen young Indian men work for free to prove up that they were good men worthy of a job. They should have been paid. My brother was attacked by a white man with a gun. He took the gun away from him and beat him unconscious with it. My brother was defending himself but he was the one arrested. These are a couple examples of why there are dark skinned people who have resentments against whites. I stopped the cycle in my own life.
Viet Nam Vet 67-68 wrote:
I worked at Emby Foods in Oakland Calif. and I know exactly what you are talking about, my life was threatened 3 times or more a week. So much for White Racism.

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Mar 16, 2014 10:44:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Pretty much all employed writers are writing to please their employers to keep a job. My problem is when a black writer chastises other Blacks and says they have been bought off with freebies and then white folks say "Right on". It just urks me.
bmac32 wrote:
So back to your original statement, 'Black writers write to please their employers' would that mean other writers don't or that they write what they see?

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Mar 16, 2014 10:51:48   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Thomas Sowell has every right to live I just get bothered that White people lap up his propaganda and think it's alright to call blacks out for being poor having children liking black culture just about anything that a black person is. I don't expect Black people to be any thing more than themselves.and I know from hard experience what racism can do to shape a persons attitude toward other races. People need to fight the real enemys. EVIL IGNORANCE and INSANITY.
koondy3 wrote:
Thanks, fom! I'm glad my post was to your liking. I do hope to improve, though. I'm poking-out my text, letter by letter, on a cellphone; and I find it a bit of a chore. Often, by the time I get to the end of a sentence, I have to scroll back, to see what, exactly, I was saying and how I was saying it. When I do that, sometimes I lose half the text and have to start over. I have other unfortunate cell phone experiences, too; but like I said, "I do hope to improve".
So, once again, I thank you for completing my post; but I can't help but be curious, as to what, if any, bearing it may have had on your original post. For instance: Does Thomas Sowell get to live? I guess, what I'm wondering is, if you started this thread with a question or subject you are troubled with...or are you just curious about how people will answer it...or what. When you get a chance, let me know...huh?
Thanks, fom! I'm glad my post was to your liking... (show quote)

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Mar 16, 2014 11:06:13   #
bobgssc
 
fom wrote:
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistreatment.


Your location is Coos Bay Oregon. I'm sorry but that isn't the bastion of racism! What a bunch of crap. The reason there is black racism is the same reason there is white racism... there are stupid, closed minded people in the world. I know some white and black people who are hard workers but can't get top paying jobs, why is this? Because they simply aren't intelligent or educated enough to handle those jobs. On the other hand, I know some hard working white and black people who do have top paying jobs, simply because they are equipped for those jobs. In my part of California, whites are a minority and yet still have most of the better jobs, is that because of racism? No... in most cases, the black or hispanic work force consists of those who were not intelligent enough or were simply too lazy to get the education to afford them those jobs. And please don't tell me that the blacks and hispanics couldn't get the education, there are more programs for "minorities" here in California than there are for whites, even though we have become the real minority. And I've said it before, if you think I'm a racist, you should speak to any of my friends, the white, hispanic or black ones, take your choice.

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Mar 16, 2014 11:22:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
With all respects, what happened so many years ago is not the doing of the white people of the here and now. There is no way that we could have controlled what our great grand parents did. Also, do you toss a full barrel of apples away because you have one that is rotten? Or do you dig the rotten one out and keep the good ones? White, Negro, Indians, Asians, or any mixture in between have one thing in common; they all have some rotten individuals born within their ranks. So, I challenge you to name one race that is absolutely pure of heart, mind, and action. If you can do that, then I will quietly back away and concede that you are right. Is teaching hate the right thing for anyone to do? There is the problem in a nutshell, Indians teach their kids (paraphrased from your own post) to hate the white man, Negros teach their kids to hate the white man, there is the key to racism. And here is the ironic part. Asians, in particular the Japanese, have the most recent and that has been 50 plus years ago, to carry hate. But, they get along with whites and they prosper! Negros, well they want to kill and cause bodily harm to whites--and it is not random. And many of them do not prosper; they elect to remain dependent because they are always crying about injustices of years ago. I personally know and have lived with the Indians from several tribes. They were respectful of me, I was respectful of them. They ate with me, I ate at their houses. Not one was filled with hate toward me because of my skin color. Yes, in the beginning they were distant; but that did not last long. And FYI I am still quite close to them!

So met my challenge. Just one of the hundreds of races and skin colors living within the US that is absolutely, down to the last person born within their ranks and files that is pure, that is peaceful, that has not done anything wrong.

And it saddens me to say that you are not being truthful when you say you have stopped the cycle in your life. A person that is not full of discontent and hatred do not try to incite hatred. Many of your posts are in that vein, you tell all these stories about what white man has done wrong, how mean they are, how horrible and you make it sound as though we should just empty our accounts of any money, give it all to you poor mistreated minorities, sign away our homes to you poor people, and pack our stuff and find a new place to live. Well, keep dreaming. It is not going to happen. Take the advantages that is given to you, stop crying in your collective beers, and make something of yourself! This is what the world is like, grow up and stop you nonstop whining!


fom wrote:
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistreatment.I grew up in an area where there was a large population of American Indians I myself am what is known as a breed. Racism against whites is the norm there with whites having the upper hand in most things. I heard storys from old Indians about white soldiers raping Indian women and girls. They passed this on to their children. I have seen young Indian men work for free to prove up that they were good men worthy of a job. They should have been paid. My brother was attacked by a white man with a gun. He took the gun away from him and beat him unconscious with it. My brother was defending himself but he was the one arrested. These are a couple examples of why there are dark skinned people who have resentments against whites. I stopped the cycle in my own life.
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistr... (show quote)
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Mar 16, 2014 11:30:32   #
Vacaman
 
Kevyn wrote:
There are a few right wing African Americans they are often referred to within the community as Uncle Toms or OREO's, brown on the outside and white on the inside. The perception is that they have sold out to the man for small personal gain. In many instances this perception is accurate.


NAACP text book crap Kevyn.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:04:51   #
Vacaman
 
fom wrote:
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistreatment.I grew up in an area where there was a large population of American Indians I myself am what is known as a breed. Racism against whites is the norm there with whites having the upper hand in most things. I heard storys from old Indians about white soldiers raping Indian women and girls. They passed this on to their children. I have seen young Indian men work for free to prove up that they were good men worthy of a job. They should have been paid. My brother was attacked by a white man with a gun. He took the gun away from him and beat him unconscious with it. My brother was defending himself but he was the one arrested. These are a couple examples of why there are dark skinned people who have resentments against whites. I stopped the cycle in my own life.
Black racism is a result of White racism and mistr... (show quote)


FOM, racism is taught from parent to child. Plain and simple. I too have worked hard to raise my children to be color blind and equal minded, however though people like us are not the norm as of yet. This is the problem, those children being raised with hatred develope phsycotic issues of a deep inferiority, they feel justified in their actions of crime due to the perceived debt the white man owes them. There is only one true correlation to our prison population and Thomas Sowell preaches it constantly, blacks have been getting told by ignorant white politicians, professors, preachers and teachers that whitey has a debt to pay, he simply understands differently. He was raised in Harlem if all places and he gets it. He is a great individual to try and stop the insanity of lies told to black children. What will be the next deductive reasoning by liberals, apologizing to Hispanics for conquering them and creating
California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico?
If you look into the conservative circles you will see many black people who have followed along with thier Northern grand parents ideals and are true conservatives. Not all black people are liberal democrats, but this is what the media and the talking heads would have us all beleive.
Spending much of life around USAF men and woman I can attest to that fact.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:13:39   #
Vacaman
 
ginnyt wrote:
With all respects, what happened so many years ago is not the doing of the white people of the here and now. There is no way that we could have controlled what our great grand parents did. Also, do you toss a full barrel of apples away because you have one that is rotten? Or do you dig the rotten one out and keep the good ones? White, Negro, Indians, Asians, or any mixture in between have one thing in common; they all have some rotten individuals born within their ranks. So, I challenge you to name one race that is absolutely pure of heart, mind, and action. If you can do that, then I will quietly back away and concede that you are right. Is teaching hate the right thing for anyone to do? There is the problem in a nutshell, Indians teach their kids (paraphrased from your own post) to hate the white man, Negros teach their kids to hate the white man, there is the key to racism. And here is the ironic part. Asians, in particular the Japanese, have the most recent and that has been 50 plus years ago, to carry hate. But, they get along with whites and they prosper! Negros, well they want to kill and cause bodily harm to whites--and it is not random. And many of them do not prosper; they elect to remain dependent because they are always crying about injustices of years ago. I personally know and have lived with the Indians from several tribes. They were respectful of me, I was respectful of them. They ate with me, I ate at their houses. Not one was filled with hate toward me because of my skin color. Yes, in the beginning they were distant; but that did not last long. And FYI I am still quite close to them!

So met my challenge. Just one of the hundreds of races and skin colors living within the US that is absolutely, down to the last person born within their ranks and files that is pure, that is peaceful, that has not done anything wrong.

And it saddens me to say that you are not being truthful when you say you have stopped the cycle in your life. A person that is not full of discontent and hatred do not try to incite hatred. Many of your posts are in that vein, you tell all these stories about what white man has done wrong, how mean they are, how horrible and you make it sound as though we should just empty our accounts of any money, give it all to you poor mistreated minorities, sign away our homes to you poor people, and pack our stuff and find a new place to live. Well, keep dreaming. It is not going to happen. Take the advantages that is given to you, stop crying in your collective beers, and make something of yourself! This is what the world is like, grow up and stop you nonstop whining!
What you say is true, but then again many people have been brainwashed to beleive that all white people are the evil ones. Who started the slave trades? Who sold their people for profit? How were slave traded? How long were they indentured? How many actually came to North America? Where did all the black wealth come from in the north? They don't teach these things, Thomas Sowell has tried to enlighten all people as a historian and author who grew up in Harlem! We need honesty, not the NAACP, or Rev Jackson, or Al Sharpton. These men are products of the NAACP mind set. In many ways the NAACP has been the worst thing for black America.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:15:53   #
Vacaman
 
GinnyT
You are correct, the only problem black people have today is feeling sorry for them selves and liberals trying to buy their respect.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:28:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I agree with you, with one exception. You state "ignorant white politicians, professors, preachers and teachers that whitey has a debt to pay, he simply understands differently" It is people like Sharpton, Obama, and Negro ministers that add to the hate and mistrust. I say, stop listening to those that teach hate. Start following what you see with your own eyes, what you feel with your heart. We are not lemmings, just because some self appointed leader says that you or anyone is unworthy does not make it truth. And the never-ending whine of complaint is very old! I am tired of it, and most of my people are tired of it. I am Jewish, Jewish people do not hate or mistreat, or even condemn Germans for what a few did so many years ago. Here is a challenge, find a living plantation holder that bought and owned slaves and have them pay the price. Take them to court and sue them. Get it over with, if you want to have them put to death, convince the court and get it done! And then leave the rest of us alone.

Vacaman wrote:
FOM, racism is taught from parent to child. Plain and simple. I too have worked hard to raise my children to be color blind and equal minded, however though people like us are not the norm as of yet. This is the problem, those children being raised with hatred develope phsycotic issues of a deep inferiority, they feel justified in their actions of crime due to the perceived debt the white man owes them. There is only one true correlation to our prison population and Thomas Sowell preaches it constantly, blacks have been getting told by ignorant white politicians, professors, preachers and teachers that whitey has a debt to pay, he simply understands differently. He was raised in Harlem if all places and he gets it. He is a great individual to try and stop the insanity of lies told to black children. What will be the next deductive reasoning by liberals, apologizing to Hispanics for conquering them and creating
California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico?
If you look into the conservative circles you will see many black people who have followed along with thier Northern grand parents ideals and are true conservatives. Not all black people are liberal democrats, but this is what the media and the talking heads would have us all beleive.
Spending much of life around USAF men and woman I can attest to that fact.
FOM, racism is taught from parent to child. Plain ... (show quote)

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Mar 16, 2014 12:31:44   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
fom wrote:
just read and draw your own conclusion. Sowell at times implies that members of his race are being played and don't realize it.


What if they are? Your own implication is that there is only one opinion that black folk should have. Do you hear yourself?

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