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May 28, 2018 19:15:39   #
PeterS
 
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the flag, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the flag. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)


Trump is the president of RW conservatives not of the nation. He doesn't know how to communicate to all--only those who hate and despise others as he does. His use of the flag and anthem to demean and ostracize others only shows that he could give a fuk about this country and that cons would elect him as their leader only shows how distance they are from love of country too.

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May 28, 2018 19:16:46   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Foxtrot Yankee, ya spiteful bottom feeder.

Said the catfish to the frog!

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May 28, 2018 20:33:59   #
eden
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Foxtrot Yankee, ya spiteful bottom feeder.


Charming. I could have said much worse than posting first David Frum (a staunch Republican and former speech writer for George Bush) then the Presidents own words. What you and others here fail to understand is that for many of us critical of this administration, it is not really a left or right issue. And no it does not mean you are being personally demeaned
when we simply point out that the President has an obvious personality defect that calls into question his fitness for the office. What is spiteful or bottom feeding about that? When Nixon was finally called out by his own party were they bottom feeding, or simply doing what they should have done earlier? When you have a President that is opposed by about half his adopted party plus the entire other party and most independents there just may be something in it.

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May 29, 2018 07:01:50   #
itsmyjob
 
And just because I'm an asshole I need to tell you that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a sorry piece of shit. I'm a veteran I can say that.

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May 29, 2018 07:32:59   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
itsmyjob wrote:
And just because I'm an asshole I need to tell you that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a sorry piece of shit. I'm a veteran I can say that.


Yes you can say that... but not just because you're a veteran...
sorry to say there is truth in your candid comment... Btw, thank you for your service to our country and God bless you.

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May 29, 2018 11:34:11   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the flag, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the flag. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)


Just another political Hack! Like you!!! MAGA!

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May 29, 2018 11:57:28   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the flag, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the flag. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)


Let me make a wild guess, You do not like Trump.

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May 29, 2018 12:12:20   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eden wrote:
Charming. I could have said much worse than posting first David Frum (a staunch Republican and former speech writer for George Bush) then the Presidents own words. What you and others here fail to understand is that for many of us critical of this administration, it is not really a left or right issue. And no it does not mean you are being personally demeaned
when we simply point out that the President has an obvious personality defect that calls into question his fitness for the office. What is spiteful or bottom feeding about that? When Nixon was finally called out by his own party were they bottom feeding, or simply doing what they should have done earlier? When you have a President that is opposed by about half his adopted party plus the entire other party and most independents there just may be something in it.
Charming. I could have said much worse than postin... (show quote)
Do you remember a half white community organizer whose personality defects made him less qualified to be president than Daffy Duck?

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May 29, 2018 12:27:33   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
donald41 wrote:
Let me make a wild guess, You do not like Trump.


donald41: Apparently neither does davie frumpy Mr. political hack!

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May 29, 2018 12:28:43   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do you remember a half white community organizer whose personality defects made him less qualified to be president than Daffy Duck?


Blade_Runner: The Jihadi kenyan camel turd comes to my mind?

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May 29, 2018 13:47:06   #
teabag09
 
David Frum is WRONG! Memorial Day is the day we honor our Military who have given their lives for our Country. Mike
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the flag, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the flag. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)

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May 29, 2018 13:52:29   #
teabag09
 
Perhaps it is you who doesn't know how or care to listen! Mike
PeterS wrote:
Trump is the president of RW conservatives not of the nation. He doesn't know how to communicate to all--only those who hate and despise others as he does. His use of the flag and anthem to demean and ostracize others only shows that he could give a fuk about this country and that cons would elect him as their leader only shows how distance they are from love of country too.

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May 29, 2018 14:06:49   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
teabag09 wrote:
Perhaps it is you who doesn't know how or care to listen! Mike


teabag09: I think peter boy is sucking chancre sores again?

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May 29, 2018 14:53:45   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do you remember a half white community organizer whose personality defects made him less qualified to be president than Daffy Duck?

Personality defects? You voted for a guy who boasted about grabbing women by their pussy's. You voted for a guy who was accused of raping a 13 year old and sexually assaulting at least 19 other women. You voted for a guy who has committed adultery on every woman he ever married and is on record stating that if Ivanka wasn't his daughter she would be one of his conquests. Do you have a daughter Blade? does drool come out of your mouth wishing you could fuk her? You voted for a guy who has a list of suits against him for non payment that is at least 4,000 deep and there isn't a bank in the United States that will lend him a dime because he never pays them back. You voted for a guy who can't complete a sentence, much less a paragraph, without telling a lie. Trump has so many personality defects that it literally would be impossible to list them all. Obama's only personality defect was that he was black and a democrat--a combination you Christ loving Conservatives simply could not tolerate...

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May 29, 2018 15:13:29   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I just returned from the Memorial Day service at the military cemetery. The service was conducted by members of the VFW. The purpose of this ceremony was to honor those who gave their lives for American freedom.

Memorial Day Ceremony Arlington National Cemetery In his speech, President Trump paid tribute to our veterans, living and dead, he honored the sacrifices of our war dead and their families. Not once did our president politicize this solemn event nor did he make it about himself. He revealed himself as a leader far too big for the mental midgets who will go to any lengths to condemn him.
I just returned from the Memorial Day service at t... (show quote)



Very eloquently said, thank you for posting truth, the spiritually blind are incapable of seeing.

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