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May 28, 2018 14:27:48   #
eden
 
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I h**e war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the f**g, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the f**g. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”

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May 28, 2018 14:45:07   #
Lonewolf
 
very well written and t***hful post thank you





eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I h**e war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the f**g, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the f**g. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)

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May 28, 2018 14:57:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I h**e war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the f**g, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the f**g. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)


He,David Frum for writing this article and you for putting this article are full of BS!!!!.......President Trump never said to revoke the citizenship if they burn the f**g even though they should be, and he never said football players should be deported for not standing up for American Anthem...He said they should be fired...NOT deprted, big difference!!!And as for NOKO he is the only Prez that may actually have peace on the Korean Peninsula thanks to his negotiating sk**ls....None of the past 3 Presidents came even close to peace on the Korean Peninsula like this President is.......God Bless President Trump and God Bless US on this Memorial Day!!!...And you and whats his name David Frum can just kiss my American Arse!!!! BTW there were more African Americans and Hispanic Americans that v**ed for President Trump then for Mitt Romney

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May 28, 2018 15:27:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eden wrote:
On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.

Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude.
I just returned from the Memorial Day service at the military cemetery. The service was conducted by members of the VFW. The purpose of this ceremony was to honor those who gave their lives for American freedom.

Memorial Day Ceremony Arlington National Cemetery In his speech, President Trump paid tribute to our veterans, living and dead, he honored the sacrifices of our war dead and their families. Not once did our president politicize this solemn event nor did he make it about himself. He revealed himself as a leader far too big for the mental midgets who will go to any lengths to condemn him.



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May 28, 2018 15:52:22   #
eden
 
proud republican wrote:
He,David Frum for writing this article and you for putting this article are full of BS!!!!.......President Trump never said to revoke the citizenship if they burn the f**g even though they should be, and he never said football players should be deported for not standing up for American Anthem...He said they should be fired...NOT deprted, big difference!!!And as for NOKO he is the only Prez that may actually have peace on the Korean Peninsula thanks to his negotiating sk**ls....None of the past 3 Presidents came even close to peace on the Korean Peninsula like this President is.......God Bless President Trump and God Bless US on this Memorial Day!!!...And you and whats his name David Frum can just kiss my American Arse!!!! BTW there were more African Americans and Hispanic Americans that v**ed for President Trump then for Mitt Romney
He,David Frum for writing this article and you fo... (show quote)


Your response was predictable. Have a nice Memorial Day anyway.

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May 28, 2018 15:54:07   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
eden wrote:
Your response was predictable. Have a nice Memorial Day anyway.


You too....

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May 28, 2018 17:12:32   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
eden wrote:
From David Frum, The Atlantic.

“On Memorial Day, as the nation turned to the president to lead its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, he revealed himself too small for the office he holds.
Memorial Day is for the living: for those who mourn, for those who remember, for those who carry upon their bodies and souls the scars of war. It is the opportunity for society to express gratitude. That is not only a duty to the past. It’s a commitment to the future—because Memorial Day speaks not only to those who have sacrificed in the past, but to those who may be called on to sacrifice in years to come.
“To care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” is a promise not denominated only in dollars and cents. We commit spiritually, too, to do our limited human best to understand and appreciate the losses and suffering imposed by the defense of the nation.
It is the responsibility and honor of the president to speak for the nation on the solemn occasions of collective remembrance. Some presidents are endowed with greater natural eloquence than others, but that does not matter. What the country listens for is the generous and authentic message underneath the rhetoric, whether that rhetoric is graceful or clumsy. The last general to win the presidency said, “I h**e war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.” The country heard those words, believed them, and trusted him.
The 45th president is often described—and sometimes praised—as “authentic.” That compliment, if is a compliment, is not truly deserved. In many ways, President Trump is not the man he seems. He was not a great builder, not a great dealmaker, not a billionaire, not a man of strength and decisiveness.
But there is one way in which he truly is authentic: He is never able to play-act the generous feelings that he so absolutely lacks. “To show an unfelt sorrow is an office which the false man does easy.” In that one sense, Donald Trump is not false. He does not feel sorrow for others, and he does not try to pretend otherwise.
Trump’s perfect emptiness of empathy has revealed itself again and again through his presidency, but never as completely and conspicuously as in his self-flattering 2018 Memorial Day tweets. They exceed even the heartless comment in a speech to Congress—in the presence of a grieving widow—that a fallen Navy Seal would be happy that his ovation from Congress had lasted longer than anybody else’s.
It’s not news that there is something missing from Trump where normal human feelings should go. His devouring need for admiration from others is joined to an extreme, even pathological, inability to return any care or concern for those others. But Trump’s version of this disconnect comes most especially to the fore at times of national ritual.
Donald Trump cares enormously about national symbols—the f**g, the anthem—when he can use them to belittle, humiliate, and exclude.
Trump has called for revoking the citizenship of those who burn the f**g. He has suggested that NFL players who do not rise for the Star-Spangled Banner should be deported. He scored one of the greatest victories of his presidency when the National Football League submitted to his demand to punish players who did not stand at attention for the anthem. Vice President Pence ran the victory lap for Trump on this one.
But when it comes time to to lead the nation in its shared rituals of unity and common purpose, Donald Trump cannot do it. He is, at most, president of slightly more than half of white America, and often not even that. He cannot not be a jerk, and he is most a jerk when a proper president would be most a leader.
What happens then if the country should find itself in a moment when national leadership is required? A mass-casualty terrorist attack, a natural disaster that takes many lives, a crisis that might lead to war, a war itself? Trump’s decisions are leading the country toward possible conflict in the Korean Peninsula and against Iran.
What if that leadership actually arrives at the brink of outright conflict? How can a president who only grabs credibly ask others for sacrifice? How can the most untrustworthy man ever to hold the office effectively summon anyone to follow him? Franklin Roosevelt in his first inaugural address spoke of “the warm courage of national unity.” There will never be any such thing under a Trump presidency, and the fault lines embittered by Trump’s ceaseless provocations will shatter in a real national crisis.
On every Memorial Day, Americans should pray for peace. On this Memorial Day and the next, and the one after that, Americans should pray with extra fervor—because war, if it comes, will come under the leadership of a man too puny and too mean to do the job.”
From David Frum, The Atlantic. br br “On Memorial... (show quote)


We need to find out who Trump has picked to play him in the movie, that way, should a National crisis occur..............we can ask the actor to lead the Nation...............she'll do a better job.

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May 28, 2018 17:17:44   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We need to find out who Trump has picked to play him in the movie, that way, should a National crisis occur..............we can ask the actor to lead the Nation...............she'll do a better job.


I hope comedy is not your full time job,because you stink at it!!!!

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May 28, 2018 17:34:04   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
proud republican wrote:
He,David Frum for writing this article and you for putting this article are full of BS!!!!.......President Trump never said to revoke the citizenship if they burn the f**g even though they should be, and he never said football players should be deported for not standing up for American Anthem...He said they should be fired...NOT deprted, big difference!!!And as for NOKO he is the only Prez that may actually have peace on the Korean Peninsula thanks to his negotiating sk**ls....None of the past 3 Presidents came even close to peace on the Korean Peninsula like this President is.......God Bless President Trump and God Bless US on this Memorial Day!!!...And you and whats his name David Frum can just kiss my American Arse!!!! BTW there were more African Americans and Hispanic Americans that v**ed for President Trump then for Mitt Romney
He,David Frum for writing this article and you fo... (show quote)


T***h put in context... well said.

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May 28, 2018 17:41:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We need to find out who Trump has picked to play him in the movie, that way, should a National crisis occur..............we can ask the actor to lead the Nation...............she'll do a better job.
I know who would be perfect for the role. However, I am hard pressed to name an actress who could possibly do a better job of playing the role of Hillary than she herself has already done. Talk about horror movies.

Above all there are no actors or actresses who could do justice to playing Barack and Michelle. Maybe they could do another Star Trek where a half white Borg marries a Klingon b***h.

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May 28, 2018 18:24:09   #
eden
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We need to find out who Trump has picked to play him in the movie, that way, should a National crisis occur..............we can ask the actor to lead the Nation...............she'll do a better job.


....and then his immortal tweet of the day:

“Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for B****s and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"

T***slation: “Isn’t it nice that all these heroes died so that I could use that on this day to boast about my accomplishments.”

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May 28, 2018 18:37:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eden wrote:
....and then his immortal tweet of the day:

“Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for B****s and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"

T***slation: “Isn’t it nice that all these heroes died so that I could use that on this day to boast about my accomplishments.”
Foxtrot Yankee, ya spiteful bottom feeder.

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May 28, 2018 18:55:13   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Foxtrot Yankee, ya spiteful bottom feeder.

DITTO!

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May 28, 2018 19:03:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
proud republican wrote:
He,David Frum for writing this article and you for putting this article are full of BS!!!!.......President Trump never said to revoke the citizenship if they burn the f**g even though they should be, and he never said football players should be deported for not standing up for American Anthem...He said they should be fired...NOT deprted, big difference!!!And as for NOKO he is the only Prez that may actually have peace on the Korean Peninsula thanks to his negotiating sk**ls....None of the past 3 Presidents came even close to peace on the Korean Peninsula like this President is.......God Bless President Trump and God Bless US on this Memorial Day!!!...And you and whats his name David Frum can just kiss my American Arse!!!! BTW there were more African Americans and Hispanic Americans that v**ed for President Trump then for Mitt Romney
He,David Frum for writing this article and you fo... (show quote)




maybe because Mitt was not a candidate...

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May 28, 2018 19:05:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I just returned from the Memorial Day service at the military cemetery. The service was conducted by members of the VFW. The purpose of this ceremony was to honor those who gave their lives for American freedom.

Memorial Day Ceremony Arlington National Cemetery In his speech, President Trump paid tribute to our veterans, living and dead, he honored the sacrifices of our war dead and their families. Not once did our president politicize this solemn event nor did he make it about himself. He revealed himself as a leader far too big for the mental midgets who will go to any lengths to condemn him.
I just returned from the Memorial Day service at t... (show quote)




His self promotion and sales pitch was on the internet...(tweeter?)

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