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‘DO YOU BELIEVE GAY SEX IS A PERVERSION?’: According to Democrats, Christians Cannot Serve In Government
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Apr 17, 2018 03:30:48   #
PeterS
 
woodguru wrote:
Just like we can't have doctors refusing to save an injured person because they don't like their tattoos.


Exactly, our constitution doesn't allow us to extend our religious beliefs over others. We are free to believe as we like but we can't force others to believe as we do else we won't serve them.

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Apr 17, 2018 06:48:02   #
itsmyjob
 
Not going to debate the religious side myself as you will not change my mind nor will I change yours. Most businesses I go into has a sign saying (we reserve the right to refuse service) . This in my opinion leaves it up to the proprietor if you get served or not. Doesn't need an explanation as to why.

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Apr 17, 2018 07:33:17   #
Kevyn
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I hate racism, but people have a right to say racist things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a Leftist point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “hate speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.
i Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018 /i br On Thursday... (show quote)

Gay marriage is now legal in the US that water is under the bridge. The question we now face is the acceptance of golden showers and waterworks shows. Do you consider them perversions or just part of the everything gos 21st century?

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Apr 17, 2018 08:02:15   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
So in other words, Trumps sins don't bother you so long as he supports the same political objectives as you do. And if we are all sinners why do you CC's care so much about not baking a wedding cake for a same sex marriages? I mean, after all we are all sinners so why does it matter?

Like you said, we're ALL sinners Petey boy. And I don't celebrate sin you moron.

Love the sinner...hate the sin.

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Apr 17, 2018 08:05:15   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Kevyn wrote:
Gay marriage is now legal in the US that water is under the bridge. The question we now face is the acceptance of golden showers and waterworks shows. Do you consider them perversions or just part of the everything gos 21st century?

Read Romans 1:18-32. It paints a picture of what EXACTLY is going on in our society. The perversions you describe Kevy. And yes it's a slippery slope.

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Apr 17, 2018 08:11:51   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
proud republican wrote:
Hey,Pafret instead of hanging around,why dont you just get in the middle and you know......
Hey,Pafret instead of hanging around,why dont you ... (show quote)


From what I have been told, Lesbians don't like that. Something repulsive about men that caused them to go insane and attempt sexual congress with partners of their own sex.

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Apr 17, 2018 08:20:14   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm a progressive, I see two beautiful women "like that", I ask if they like a guy here and there, never can tell when it's your lucky day, Lol


I have led a sheltered life, I have never been in the presence of two women who were "like that". None of the opium dens I frequented were offering sex shows.

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Apr 17, 2018 08:49:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
In todays society just about everything goes...
A person’s sexual preference should be a private matter not flaunted one way or the other..However we seem compulsive on the issue because its advertised by the straight, gay or lesbian..

Who the heck really cares?? Until someone makes it an issue it is not an issue..

Keep it private and be happy...

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Apr 17, 2018 08:57:56   #
PeterS
 
itsmyjob wrote:
Not going to debate the religious side myself as you will not change my mind nor will I change yours. Most businesses I go into has a sign saying (we reserve the right to refuse service) . This in my opinion leaves it up to the proprietor if you get served or not. Doesn't need an explanation as to why.

So you can refuse service because you don't like a persons color, or sex, or sexual orientation? You are welcome to your opinion but if applied the business owner wouldn't be in business very long...

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Apr 17, 2018 09:03:27   #
PeterS
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Read Romans 1:18-32. It paints a picture of what EXACTLY is going on in our society. The perversions you describe Kevy. And yes it's a slippery slope.


Well, you better be careful that you don't slide into hell...

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Apr 17, 2018 10:01:05   #
itsmyjob
 
PeterS wrote:
So you can refuse service because you don't like a persons color, or sex, or sexual orientation? You are welcome to your opinion but if applied the business owner wouldn't be in business very long...


I would assume that location is the key as usual.

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Apr 17, 2018 10:19:12   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
So you can refuse service because you don't like a persons color, or sex, or sexual orientation? You are welcome to your opinion but if applied the business owner wouldn't be in business very long...

Hey Pete it has NOTHING to do with a person's color, or sex, or sexual orientation. It has to do with participating in the celebration of sin. You know Pete, you're really obtuse.

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Apr 17, 2018 21:01:24   #
Ricktloml
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting your religion be it Christian, Jewish, or any of the other major religions act as a guide for your beliefs. The fact of this matter is that gays have no choice in their sexual orientation. They are what they are, and as long as they do their thing behind closed doors with a consenting adult, I have no gripe. If you are so concerned about sexual morality as a Christian, why do you support Trump, a serial adulterer, and sexual abuser? I seem to remember something in the Bible about not committing adultery.
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting you... (show quote)


Do you actually have proof that homosexuals are in fact "born that way"? Because I am unaware that there is any. And until someone comes up with some medical or scientific proof, simply declaring that homosexuals don't have a choice doesn't make it so, that is called propaganda.

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Apr 18, 2018 05:11:27   #
PeterS
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Hey Pete it has NOTHING to do with a person's color, or sex, or sexual orientation. It has to do with participating in the celebration of sin. You know Pete, you're really obtuse.

Gee, and here I thought god was love so if two people loved each other it would be of his doing. There's that and the fact that you cannot extend your religious beliefs over someone else. If you can't participate in someone else's sin then develop a business where you won't have to do that.

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Apr 18, 2018 05:14:53   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Do you actually have proof that homosexuals are in fact "born that way"? Because I am unaware that there is any. And until someone comes up with some medical or scientific proof, simply declaring that homosexuals don't have a choice doesn't make it so, that is called propaganda.

So tell me, do you think it so much fun being ostracized, bullied, discriminated against, and just all around hated that you would choose a homosexual lifestyle if there was any other option?

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