BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Well...God has every right to create people doomed for destruction and people have every right hop into the abyss.

Hope you reconsider sometime.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Why is it necessary for you to say if God loves. all, why did he let this or that take place?? God simply gave us free will/choice, we did the rest.,

Likewise God loving us does not mean we sit idly by doing nothing when a wrong is committed..

Turn thy cheek, means to forgive them, it doesn’t mean we don’t defend ourself or someone else etc..

Ricktloml

Oh good grief. Do you read anything you write? People don't choose to be mentally ill. They DO choose to not accept the fact that they are ill or treat their illnesses. A lot of illnesses (mental, and otherwise,) have been with us since day one. Your post has no logic, and you try to twist the t***h to fit the narrative. You cannot provide any proof of the claims that are made by homosexuals, (because there isn't any,) you just attack those who point that fact out. And like all l*****ts you think if you repeat a lie often enough, and threaten enough people with violence if they won't knuckle under and accept the lie it will make that lie true.

PeterS

I'm not playing chess with god I am playing chess with a being that is omnipotent and omniscience and therefore knows every move that I make before I even make it? Now the question begged is am I exercising free will or just a useless exercise in existence? Now grant it, I am choosing each move so you can argue for free will but each move is pointless since my opponent knows every move I make before even making it.

This is the problem with the concept of god Mike because god is both omnipotent and omniscience therefore before I was even created he knew what my choice would be therefore he knew that I was going to burn in hell forever when he created me. Now I won't ask the fairness of this because it just shows the absurdity that is the proposition of god especially when we say he is both omnipotent and omniscience--in other words knows everything. We create our gods Mike but we don't really think things through with the gods that we create otherwise we wouldn't make them both omnipotent and omniscience therefore making free will is pointless...

Check mate...

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

There's only one being that fits that description. God. And I'll keep telling you God isn't who you're playing chess with...it's YOU.

PeterS

Linda, I'm an atheist so I'm not going to say that god does anything, he doesn't. As for turning the other cheek I would think he was talking about retaliation but not lethal force. If someone is trying to k**l you go ahead and blow his ass away. Tell them Jesus said so and your friend Pete says A-Okay. And don't tell them I'm an atheist. That tends to piss people off...

PeterS

In my analogy Mike there are two beings that fit that description--your god and my omnipotent and omniscience being. Now I've ruled out your god so it's my being that I'm taking about.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Why does your being toy with you?

PeterS

Ricktloml said: And the reason people still choose a homosexual lifestyle is because it IS a mental disorder. My question is: is a mental disorder not mentally ill? I mean if I'm schizophrenic I have a mental disorder and I'm mentally ill. The same of I'm bi-polar or anxiety disorder and on and on.

This from the The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary:

Because the definition of "disorder" includes, specifically, a disturbance of the mind (such as a mental disorder) it better fits what we now call mental illnesses, particularly before we understood that mental disorders are truly disorders of the brain (and not simply the "mind").

Rick, so what is homosexuality, a Mental Disorder or a Mental Illness because you just said people don't choose the later and of course the former is the same...

Ricktloml

Medical dictionaries also say there is very little difference between mental illness and a mental disorder. The APA's diagnostic manual, (the one they used before violent, radical homosexuals bullied, and threatened the doctors and their families into changing,) listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. There was no scientific reason to remove homosexuality from the diagnostic manual. And there is STILL no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are born that way. You obviously want to twist words to avoid the obvious. I guess you are trying to claim that homosexuals choose to have a mental disorder