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‘DO YOU BELIEVE GAY SEX IS A PERVERSION?’: According to Democrats, Christians Cannot Serve In Government
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Apr 16, 2018 19:46:50   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I h**e r****m, but people have a right to say r****t things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a L*****t point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “h**e speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.

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Apr 16, 2018 19:54:19   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I h**e r****m, but people have a right to say r****t things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a L*****t point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “h**e speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.
i Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018 /i br On Thursday... (show quote)


You could have just said so. Long read to get to that conclusion.

But, back to the first course, man on man sex is gross. Sorry gay friends. Keep it in the bedroom.

Girl on girl, less so, but still, keep it in the bedroom.

Infect, let's just let it remain a mystery, on both sides!!

Done!

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Apr 16, 2018 19:57:40   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You could have just said so. Long read to get to that conclusion.

But, back to the first course, man on man sex is gross. Sorry gay friends. Keep it in the bedroom.

Girl on girl, less so, but still, keep it in the bedroom.

Infect, let's just let it remain a mystery, on both sides!!

Done!


But you guys seem to like girl on girl sex......Be honest,i wont tell anyone

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Apr 16, 2018 20:30:35   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting your religion be it Christian, Jewish, or any of the other major religions act as a guide for your beliefs. The fact of this matter is that gays have no choice in their sexual orientation. They are what they are, and as long as they do their thing behind closed doors with a consenting adult, I have no gripe. If you are so concerned about sexual morality as a Christian, why do you support Trump, a serial adulterer, and sexual abuser? I seem to remember something in the Bible about not committing adultery.
mwdegutis wrote:
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I h**e r****m, but people have a right to say r****t things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a L*****t point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “h**e speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.
i Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018 /i br On Thursday... (show quote)

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Apr 16, 2018 20:45:56   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting your religion be it Christian, Jewish, or any of the other major religions act as a guide for your beliefs. The fact of this matter is that gays have no choice in their sexual orientation. They are what they are, and as long as they do their thing behind closed doors with a consenting adult, I have no gripe. If you are so concerned about sexual morality as a Christian, why do you support Trump, a serial adulterer, and sexual abuser? I seem to remember something in the Bible about not committing adultery.
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting you... (show quote)

I support Trump because he is pro-life, pro-Israel, pro-America, pro-constitution, etc., EVERYTHING the l*****t Marxists such as Obama, Hillary, etc. are against.

And besides saltwind, we're ALL sinners...or would you like to cast the first stone?

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Apr 16, 2018 21:18:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
But you guys seem to like girl on girl sex......Be honest,i wont tell anyone


From my brief excursions into horny land on the internet. I knew a couple of girls, also, who seemed to exude that, although we never really knew. LOL!

They are both still good friends so the next time we see them together at a gathering of friends, it will be interesting if that persists.

Sex is sex. Who the hell knows what works for some. So, like I said, lets keep it private.

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Apr 16, 2018 21:20:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting your religion be it Christian, Jewish, or any of the other major religions act as a guide for your beliefs. The fact of this matter is that gays have no choice in their sexual orientation. They are what they are, and as long as they do their thing behind closed doors with a consenting adult, I have no gripe. If you are so concerned about sexual morality as a Christian, why do you support Trump, a serial adulterer, and sexual abuser? I seem to remember something in the Bible about not committing adultery.
mwdegutis, There is nothing wrong with letting you... (show quote)


Agreed. I don't actually think they have any more choice than I have being attracted to my wife and the girls who came before her. I love turnip greens. I fault no one if they don't.

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Apr 16, 2018 22:57:18   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
proud republican wrote:
But you guys seem to like girl on girl sex......Be honest,i wont tell anyone


It really P***** me off when there are two beautiful looking women engaged in that practice when I'm just h*****g around waiting for a shot. Haven't thought about two ugly women doing it so I can't offer an opinion.

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Apr 17, 2018 00:28:38   #
itsmyjob
 
Well the bible says men will turn to men. I wonder if God knew pretty boys were going to have boob implants. I have some serious thinking issues.

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Apr 17, 2018 00:34:34   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
pafret wrote:
It really P***** me off when there are two beautiful looking women engaged in that practice when I'm just h*****g around waiting for a shot. Haven't thought about two ugly women doing it so I can't offer an opinion.


Hey,Pafret instead of h*****g around,why dont you just get in the middle and you know......

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Apr 17, 2018 01:37:28   #
woodguru
 
Christians can serve and believe wh**ever they want, Muslims can serve, yes they can, they cannot bring their religious beliefs to government and neither can christians. Nobody said christians can't serve, the problem with Pompeo is his failure to leave the religion in his head.

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Apr 17, 2018 02:03:09   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I h**e r****m, but people have a right to say r****t things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a L*****t point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “h**e speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.
i Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018 /i br On Thursday... (show quote)


If it ain't in marriage with a person of the opposite sex who's always been the opposite sex it misses the mark.

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Apr 17, 2018 02:32:20   #
PeterS
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018
On Thursday, Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) offered a bizarre critique of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Pompeo wasn’t sufficiently enthusiastic about homosexual sex.

Yes, this is a real thing.

Booker asked Pompeo, “Do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo is a religious Christian, so presumably he does. He answered, quite properly, “When I was a politician, I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for two same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that.” He also informed Booker, “My respect for every individual regardless of sexual orientation is the same.”

Booker was outraged by Pompeo’s reply. His time ran, however, before he could grill Pompeo on whether he enjoyed Brokeback Mountain sufficiently or cried at the end of Moonlight.

This is anti-Christian bigotry from Booker. It’s that simple. Religious people of all major faiths — Christian, Jewish, Muslim — believe homosexual activity is a sin. Full stop. The Bible is quite clear about this in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, the New Testament is clear about it in Romans and Corinthians and Timothy. The Koran isn’t shy on the issue, either. None of that means that religious people thereby want the rights of gays and lesbians violated. I, for example, am fully libertarian on same-sex marriage, and have been for years. Religious people think lots of things are sins, and also think that people have a right to do the wrong thing. The same logic undergirds support for the First Amendment: I h**e r****m, but people have a right to say r****t things. I may dislike sin, but a government dedicated to stamping out sin rather than preventing violation of rights is called tyranny.

But according to Booker, you must celebrate sin in order to believe there is a right for people to commit sin that has no externalities in a free society. This makes sense from a L*****t point of view, where government is the great instrument of the good, not a mere protector of rights — the same people who try to stamp out dissenting thought through “h**e speech” legislation are likely to believe that religious Americans feel the same way about using government to stamp out sin. But they’re wrong. And they’re religious bigots.

Worse, Booker’s shtick is unconstitutional if it were to be applied legally. The Constitution forbids religious tests for office. What Pompeo thinks about sin has nothing to do with what he thinks about public policy, unless Booker has evidence otherwise. If not, this is simple intolerance. Ironically, Booker would go on to essentially admit that point a few minutes later when he ripped into Brigitte Gabriel for supposedly expressing bigotry for questioning the compatability between Islam and democracy.

But that’s no shock. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked judicial nominee Amy Barrett just a few months back about her religion: “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.”

Here’s the real issue: when your religion is government, and government is god, you cannot tolerate any other God before it — and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God’s will. The only people on the political spectrum interested in using government as a proxy for imposing heaven from above live on the Left.
i Ben Shapiro ~ April 13, 2018 /i br On Thursday... (show quote)


How funny, Christian bigots are crying about anti-Christian bigotry. If you CC's would quit insisting that your religion gives you the right to discriminate against others this wouldn't be an issue. And no, the real issue is conservative Christians incredible intolerance of anyone who aren't just like them. Don't sit here and try to paint the left as the problem when you are the ones who insist that your religious edits trump the constitution. They don't. You are allowed religious freedom but you aren't allowed to discriminate against others based upon your religious beliefs. We are a constitutional republic not a theocracy something you CC's still don't seem to understand. And again, I think it's hysterical that Christian bigots are crying over anti-Christian bigotry.

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Apr 17, 2018 02:33:17   #
woodguru
 
pafret wrote:
It really P***** me off when there are two beautiful looking women engaged in that practice when I'm just h*****g around waiting for a shot. Haven't thought about two ugly women doing it so I can't offer an opinion.


I'm a progressive, I see two beautiful women "like that", I ask if they like a guy here and there, never can tell when it's your lucky day, Lol

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Apr 17, 2018 02:34:30   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Christians can serve and believe wh**ever they want, Muslims can serve, yes they can, they cannot bring their religious beliefs to government and neither can christians. Nobody said christians can't serve, the problem with Pompeo is his failure to leave the religion in his head.


Really???,Corey Booker did...He told Pompeo that he is Muslim and asked him question about muslims....I forgot exactly what he asked, but he brought his religion into Government

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