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Suspected Chemical Weapon Attack "Total Nonsense" Says Ron Paul
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Apr 13, 2018 10:34:26   #
itsmyjob
 
In the long run it will be we the people that pay the price. It will also be we the people that have to take our country back.

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Apr 13, 2018 11:05:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I don't agree with you that China spends only $174.5 billion in military defense spending. The fact is China spent hundreds of billions of dollars, setting military defense system in the Pacific's Spartley Islands, a strategy to completely own the East Pacific that does not belong to them. This also prevents the West from engaging commerce with the Pacific Rim countries, thus monopoly is for China for all commerce. Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and Vietnam are now being bullied by China on this account.

China has now the most sophisticated air defense system, and underground water defense mechanism than the United States. China's infrastructure is most modern, their airports, and highways are so modern ready for war.

US is so neglected, with so much deferred maintenance, accidents are happening because of that. Do you like that? Or are you a Muslim enemy of the US just pretending and lying, while trying to invade for a takeover later?

During the 8 years of Obama, the US military has been abandoned. In fact Mr. Obama reduced military generals and officers for 197 of them, drastically reduced funding to our defense system to weaken our military. And as a result, for 8 years US Defense system was underfunded. Our military equipment had been obsolete, war planes and all kinds of defense mechanism, because there was no modernization and updates. Defense maintenance of our hardware had been abandoned.

For the 8 years of Mr. Obama, thousands of our sick and disabled veterans have been deprived of medical care due to lack of funding. They waited and waited for years, for medical doctors, nobody came to help until they DIED.

Whereas Mr. Obama put priorities to funding tens and millions of illegal aliens, terrorists, and Muslim refugees with Obamacare, using our taxpayers money.

These illegal aliens from Mexico, and Muslims countries made so many babies to multiply their population for their takeover of our country. They use the hospitals paid for by our taxes, for delivering the rapid baby making system. And because these pregnant Mexican women are about to drop their babies, hospitals have no choice but help them ahead of the other paying patients waiting on the emergency clinic.

I saw them with my own two eyes. When I brought my mom-in-law for emergency hospital, she was not able to get in on time, because there were 5 Mexican pregnant women lined up behind about to drop their babies.

Fact was my mother-in-law has additional United Healthcare medical insurance paying high monthly premium, in addition to her Medicare coverage.

That was the Obama way more illegals to be feed so that they help vote for them illegally for more handouts. Is that where you stand? What if my mom-in-laws situation was in your shoes? How do you like it?

US deferred and abandoned defense funding is now recovered by president Trump, to upgrade degraded equipment and save those dying veterans in crisis and dying.
They fought for our liberty and freedom with their lives and sacrifices. They deserve our help! Are you complaining about that? We are free because of them.
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Bo’s intended act was to destabilize our military firing seasoned, well trained and knowledgeable Generals.. Along with stagnating any growth in technology advancement or even security of our computers.. He knew Russia was hacking us yet did nothing??? Why?? He knew Japan had attacked us in cyber world yet he did nothing..why???

China is without doubt moving to take over world dominance.. Think their agreement with Russia over oil but couldn’t get the pipelines built given the wars going on..Think No. Korea used as a distraction when necessary and know China will stand with No.Korea.. however China will not go to war with us as we have the military to deal with them as well as seriously impacting their yuan in trade deficits we would immediately create..

Calling in debt, not going to happen as we would just do the same and then watch all other countries have to so as well.. World wide bankruptcy is something that all countries do not want and will not pull it for this very reason.. China is most definitely a formidable enemy.... we watch them and meet tit for tat.. They are already showing signs of agreement on tarriffs to come given their announcement on tarriffs and steele/alumium charges and car trading..Sneaky they are tho as they sit quietly putting different things in motion for their sole benefit.

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Apr 13, 2018 11:06:04   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
itsmyjob wrote:
In the long run it will be we the people that pay the price. It will also be we the people that have to take our country back.


Very true!

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Apr 13, 2018 11:09:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
itsmyjob wrote:
Hahaha probably. I love y'all badasses the most.


Hi itsmyjob, nice to have you with us.. If you use the quote reply when posting it will direct your post to whom you are replying.. Just makes it easier to follow..

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Apr 13, 2018 11:41:11   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
There's nothing sophisticated about China. They are a huge bluff, militarily. Not to worry about them. Our underwater fleet alone, can end their dreams. That's why the will capitulate.


Yup, its also why they talked big over the tariff trade but have now said they want to talk about it and promised to stabilize their steele/alumium and car trade..

As for military won’happen, not with their largest trade country...

Trump talked their lingo, money, as he did with Mexico~~~

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Apr 13, 2018 11:45:51   #
Radiance3
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
After watching Sec. Powell make a (false) claim to the UN for WMD's to promote the Iraq conflict and it turned out to be total hogwash, one has to be a little cautious with some of these claims. I have a good friend who is a liberatarian, isolationist and annihilist. Right this minute I have Tucker Carlson asking my question on FOX: Where is the proof? I don't want the pretext to a war initiated by some outright false narratives. Sec. Powell was caught between a rock and a hard place trying to defend a bunch of outright lies. And I liked Bush in many ways, but I don't want to be hoodwinked into something that is not proven. I'm in the same camp as Bolton believe or not, but I need proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jXMx_AJ0oE
After watching Sec. Powell make a (false) claim to... (show quote)

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US must never get involved with Syria unless Israel is in danger of being attacked. If we get involved with Syrian, later millions of them will flow into the US seeking refuge and then take over. It is a deceptive strategy for taking over. See Europe now. Daily they are afraid going out, women and children frequently raped, terror all over, and now they multiply so fast that few years from now, it is predicted that they will outnumber the Europeans and finally these war monger violent people take over.

Their goal is taking over the whole world for their god allah as ordered by war monger and killing machine Mohammad.

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Apr 13, 2018 12:13:57   #
itsmyjob
 
lindajoy wrote:
Hi itsmyjob, nice to have you with us.. If you use the quote reply when posting it will direct your post to whom you are replying.. Just makes it easier to follow..


Thank you for the welcome. Also the education.

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Apr 13, 2018 12:58:47   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
Suspected Chemical Weapon Attack "Total
Non-sense", says Ron Paul!

Please, Leave well enough, alone, & Let's Get Out, of Any More "Military Police Action's". Yes, President ASSAD, Has Protected Christian's, The
Alliwhit Community & Other's, That Are Loyal To
His Gov.'t. Keep in mind Russia made it's Aggresive Maneuver's When "O'BONGO" WAS The U.S. "RED LINE", Minister N' Chief, & His
Bluff, Was "BLOWN"!! AMERICA, Did Use "GAS",
During The Vietnam War, By Pumping It Into
The "NLF & NVA ENEMY TUNNEL'S", Suffocating
Both Men & Women, Combatant's With "CS", GAS, & GOD Know's What Else!? America SHOULD, Get Out Of SYRIA, Before The Situation, Get's Completely Out Of Control, &
We're "Sucked", Into A World War Three, Type Situation!? Please, NO MORE "POLICE ACTION'S", Or "NATION BUILDING". SYRIA IS A
SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, Trying To Rid Itself, Of
ALL KIND'S OF MISCELLANEOUS, TERRORIST, ENEMIES, & Has A Right To Destroy THEM!!!
Lord Know's, They've Been At War With The JEW'S, For Over The Last 2,000 Year's. I Do Support ISRAEL, & Believe In Letting The Regional States, Solve Their Own Problem's.
America's "INFRASTRUCTURE, RE-BUILDING", Should Be President TRUMP'S Main
Concern, While Putting Million's Of Unemployed,
American's "BACK TO WORK", & Possibly, With Construction Worker's, "PAID AT UNION SCALE",
& That Also Includes, THE BORDER "WALL", With MEXICO!!! Beside's, You Don't GO TO WAR, EVER AGAIN, UNLESS YOU'RE PREPARED
TO WIN IT!!! Let's ALL Pull Together, & Make America, Greater Than Ever!!! The WORLD Await's, AMERICA'S, "REBIRTH"!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA, & OUR PRESIDENT. MAGA!!!

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Apr 13, 2018 13:07:36   #
fullspinzoo
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
Suspected Chemical Weapon Attack "Total
Non-sense", says Ron Paul!

Please, Leave well enough, alone, & Let's Get Out, of Any More "Military Police Action's". Yes, President ASSAD, Has Protected Christian's, The
Alliwhit Community & Other's, That Are Loyal To
His Gov.'t. Keep in mind Russia made it's Aggresive Maneuver's When "O'BONGO" WAS The U.S. "RED LINE", Minister N' Chief, & His
Bluff, Was "BLOWN"!! AMERICA, Did Use "GAS",
During The Vietnam War, By Pumping It Into
The "NLF & NVA ENEMY TUNNEL'S", Suffocating
Both Men & Women, Combatant's With "CS", GAS, & GOD Know's What Else!? America SHOULD, Get Out Of SYRIA, Before The Situation, Get's Completely Out Of Control, &
We're "Sucked", Into A World War Three, Type Situation!? Please, NO MORE "POLICE ACTION'S", Or "NATION BUILDING". SYRIA IS A
SOVEREIGN COUNTRY, Trying To Rid Itself, Of
ALL KIND'S OF MISCELLANEOUS, TERRORIST, ENEMIES, & Has A Right To Destroy THEM!!!
Lord Know's, They've Been At War With The JEW'S, For Over The Last 2,000 Year's. I Do Support ISRAEL, & Believe In Letting The Regional States, Solve Their Own Problem's.
America's "INFRASTRUCTURE, RE-BUILDING", Should Be President TRUMP'S Main
Concern, While Putting Million's Of Unemployed,
American's "BACK TO WORK", & Possibly, With Construction Worker's, "PAID AT UNION SCALE",
& That Also Includes, THE BORDER "WALL", With MEXICO!!! Beside's, You Don't GO TO WAR, EVER AGAIN, UNLESS YOU'RE PREPARED
TO WIN IT!!! Let's ALL Pull Together, & Make America, Greater Than Ever!!! The WORLD Await's, AMERICA'S, "REBIRTH"!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA, & OUR PRESIDENT. MAGA!!!
Suspected Chemical Weapon Attack "Total br No... (show quote)


I think you're right. This is the way we got sucked into ' a 10 year plus war in Vietnam. Started out as a police action. Americans are sick of war. And where does it get us? After 10 years, did we come out looking like the good guys? Hell, no!!! the blood and treasure? Mind-blowing and pathetic. So, let's be cautious. Am I a fan of Bolton and Pompeo? You bet your sweet bippy, I am. And Gen. Mattis is one of the smarter guys in the room, taking this whole situation one step at a time.

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Apr 13, 2018 14:28:32   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
Buffalo~ do you believe this ??


A veterans' publication? Why would I have any reason not to? I guess that would depend if one believes the government is capable of things such as this. It has certainly been proved that they have created false flag events in the past as an excuse, especially for military action.

I have many friends that are veterans from the Viet Nam era to those of the war on terror error. They ALL know something and believe the government is capable of fabricating, even committing horrible atrocities, then using them as justification for some action.

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Apr 13, 2018 14:34:52   #
fullspinzoo
 
buffalo wrote:
A veterans' publication? Why would I have any reason not to? I guess that would depend if one believes the government is capable of things such as this. It has certainly been proved that they have created false flag events in the past as an excuse, especially for military action.

I have many friends that are veterans from the Viet Nam era to those of the war on terror error. They ALL know something and believe the government is capable of fabricating, even committing horrible atrocities, then using them as justification for some action.
A veterans' publication? Why would I have any reas... (show quote)


If it ever got out that this was an inside job, it would be all over. I'd be in DC yelling for the impeachment of you-know-who, and I would be joined by millions. the Powell/Bush fiasco was bad enough. And we still don't know all the facts.

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Apr 13, 2018 14:59:53   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
Suspected Chemical Weapon Attack
"Total Nonsense" Says Ron Paul.

Fullspinzoo: Thank You For Your Comment, As
I Think, We, & Many Other's, Here On OPP, Believe In The Same Thing; A Lasting Peace!!
WAR, Is A HORROR, BRUTAL, & CRUEL, & I
Wouldn't Wish Anymore, Of These "Police Action's", Or Trying To Force, "So-Called", Democracy, Down, Another Countries "
THROAT", When Many Of Them, Don't Really Want It, Anyway!!! I Certainly Don't Want President Donald Trump, To "Walk Into" just Another "TRICK BAGGED", "BOOBY TRAPPED",
"AMBUSH", "CHEERED ON", By The Usual Loud-Mouthed, "CHEERLEADER'S" For WAR!!?? This
Includes, Both "RINO'S", & "DEMO-RAT'S"!!! Remember Who, & What "REGIME", Was In Power, When MR. PUTIN Annexed The Crimea,
Ukrainian, Sovereign, "SOIL"; While Communist, "RED" CHINA, Made Their ILLEGAL,
"Blitzkrieg", Upon, & ON, AN INTERNATIONAL, WATERWAY, Of The SOUTH CHINA SEA!!!
"O'BONZO'S", TREASONOUS MESS, HAS YET TO BE RECTIFIED!!??
Payback

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Apr 13, 2018 15:38:26   #
Radiance3
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bo’s intended act was to destabilize our military firing seasoned, well trained and knowledgeable Generals.. Along with stagnating any growth in technology advancement or even security of our computers.. He knew Russia was hacking us yet did nothing??? Why?? He knew Japan had attacked us in cyber world yet he did nothing..why???

China is without doubt moving to take over world dominance.. Think their agreement with Russia over oil but couldn’t get the pipelines built given the wars going on..Think No. Korea used as a distraction when necessary and know China will stand with No.Korea.. however China will not go to war with us as we have the military to deal with them as well as seriously impacting their yuan in trade deficits we would immediately create..

Calling in debt, not going to happen as we would just do the same and then watch all other countries have to so as well.. World wide bankruptcy is something that all countries do not want and will not pull it for this very reason.. China is most definitely a formidable enemy.... we watch them and meet tit for tat.. They are already showing signs of agreement on tarriffs to come given their announcement on tarriffs and steele/alumium charges and car trading..Sneaky they are tho as they sit quietly putting different things in motion for their sole benefit.
Bo’s intended act was to destabilize our military ... (show quote)

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Brilliant analysis. Thank you.

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Apr 13, 2018 16:29:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
I think you're right. This is the way we got sucked into ' a 10 year plus war in Vietnam. Started out as a police action. Americans are sick of war. And where does it get us? After 10 years, did we come out looking like the good guys? Hell, no!!! the blood and treasure? Mind-blowing and pathetic. So, let's be cautious. Am I a fan of Bolton and Pompeo? You bet your sweet bippy, I am. And Gen. Mattis is one of the smarter guys in the room, taking this whole situation one step at a time.
I think you're right. This is the way we got suck... (show quote)
What difference does it make who used chemical weapons, against civilians or armed troops? This is a crime against humanity.

You are "sick of war", but you'd best be prepared for it because there are a hell of lot of people on this planet who are not, and I'll bet you know who their primary targets are. Would you rather hold off and wait until those who hate us bring it here, or would you prefer to do what every military captain in history--Sun Tsu, von Clauswitz, Jomini, Napoleon, Patton, to name a few--has stridently recommended as the way to protect your nation? And, win a war.

In the conclusion of his great series on WW2, Churchill wrote: The malice of the wicked was reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous, [the war came] due to the failure of the democratic states to act together before the monster was fully grown. In the beginning, when it counted most, leadership failed.

What Churchill means is that the Second World War may never have been fought if the free nations had acted decisively and swiftly to, shall we say, nip Hitler in the bud. The situation in the ME has already bloomed far beyond just a bud, it has the real potential of making the Second World War look like a boy scout jamboree. Technology has shrunk the world now, and what was impossible in WW2 or even Vietnam is entirely possible now, even probable given the circumstances.

There is no way to compare the Vietnam war with what is boiling in the ME and elsewhere.

Yes, war is a terrible thing, but it is a fact of life, for as long as humans have existed they have fought each other.

I don't care how the Paulbots, the isolationists, the conspiracy theorists, and the false flag wavers want to spin it, Assad is a war criminal (one among many) and the idea that the United States is behind the chemical attacks is absolutely ridiculous. Apparently these fools don't give a damn how such foolishness could hurt us. Their incessant allegations that America is the perpetrator of all the strife in the world is the product of corrupted minds.

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Apr 13, 2018 17:27:35   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What difference does it make who used chemical weapons, against civilians or armed troops? This is a crime against humanity.

You are "sick of war", but you'd best be prepared for it because there are a hell of lot of people on this planet who are not, and I'll bet you know who their primary targets are. Would you rather hold off and wait until those who hate us bring it here, or would you prefer to do what every military captain in history--Sun Tsu, von Clauswitz, Jomini, Napoleon, Patton, to name a few--has stridently recommended as the way to protect your nation? And, win a war.

In the conclusion of his great series on WW2, Churchill wrote: The malice of the wicked was reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous, [the war came] due to the failure of the democratic states to act together before the monster was fully grown. In the beginning, when it counted most, leadership failed.

What Churchill means is that the Second World War may never have been fought if the free nations had acted decisively and swiftly to, shall we say, nip Hitler in the bud. The situation in the ME has already bloomed far beyond just a bud, it has the real potential of making the Second World War look like a boy scout jamboree. Technology has shrunk the world now, and what was impossible in WW2 or even Vietnam is entirely possible now, even probable given the circumstances.

There is no way to compare the Vietnam war with what is boiling in the ME and elsewhere.

Yes, war is a terrible thing, but it is a fact of life, for as long as humans have existed they have fought each other.

I don't care how the Paulbots, the isolationists, the conspiracy theorists, and the false flag wavers want to spin it, Assad is a war criminal (one among many) and the idea that the United States is behind the chemical attacks is absolutely ridiculous. Apparently these fools don't give a damn how such foolishness could hurt us. Their incessant allegations that America is the perpetrator of all the strife in the world is the product of corrupted minds.
What difference does it make who used chemical wea... (show quote)


Those who hate us are already coming here because of the destruction we have ravaged on their countries. Look what is happening in Europe because of the violence and destruction in those "immigrants" home lands.So they bring their brand of barbarism and violence with them. Do you think Iraq or Afghanistan posed a threat to the US? How about Libya? Or do you think that "evil" Assad and Syria are a threat to mainland USA?

In each of those countries listed above where the US has invaded militarily a vacuum was created that allowed for even more evil forces to take over.
It is a LIE that the US military is making the world a safer place. US military intervention makes the military industrial corporations and their Wall Street banksters BILLIONS. War is a racket!

What I think the US needs to do is STOP all immigration for at least 5 years and get the hell out of the middle east.

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