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Feb 15, 2018 15:34:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
////If you think banning AR15's would have prevented these shootings you're dumber than I thought and that's going some. Go ahead whiner,
name the gun law you would pass that would have stopped these killings. Until you can do that STFU!


Jim, Jim, Jim! We HAVE to do something NOW! Taking a look at mental issues, and pharmaceuticals won't work! It's the GUNS!!

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Feb 15, 2018 15:35:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
archie bunker wrote:
Jim, Jim, Jim! We HAVE to do something NOW! Taking a look at mental issues, and pharmaceuticals won't work! It's the GUNS!!


I know. What was I thinking?

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Feb 15, 2018 15:37:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Another school shooting as everybody has heard. As usual, the killer used an AR15 knock off. It a copy of the militaries semi automatic assault rifle. The rifle can hold a magazine of thirty rounds. Each bullet is deadly. It has a high velocity, and when it hits a target, the rounds tumble to make a huge hole in the body. I say it's high time we get outlaw it's sale to civilians. It's not a hunting weapon and isn't necessary for defense of a home. It was developed to kill as many people as possible.
I am a gun owner and have a concealed weapons permit. I am am a believer in the second amendment, but this instrument of murder has caused far to many deaths of innocents, many in schools. How many more children must die before we take this terrible weapon off the market?
Another school shooting as everybody has heard. As... (show quote)
Hey I own one of those evil black rifles. I have TEN 30 round magazines, I hand load deadly bullets. And so far, my AR15 has never commanded me to kill anyone. My 30 round magazines have never twisted my arm and forced me to go on a rampage. The AR15 WAS NOT developed to "kill as many people as possible" and as a self defense weapon, under certain circumstances, the AR15 cannot be beat. Moreover, the AR15 is an excellent hunting firearm, it can take down game as large as a deer. What I'm trying to tell you is that the AR15, or any firearm for that matter, is not the CAUSE of anyone's death, it is the human being that pulls the trigger, it is the violent human being who is the terrible weapon.

You need to stop focusing on the effects and deal with the causes. Putting bandaids on headaches ain't gonna work, never has.

Here's a newsflash: the problem is not the gun, the problem is moral decay, cultural corruption, societal breakdown, educational failures, the destruction of the nuclear family. Gun control laws never have or ever will cure this sickness. When a mentally ill individual or a violent criminal needs a weapon, he will get one regardless of any laws on the books. If the sicko can't get a gun, he will get something else.

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Feb 15, 2018 15:41:01   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Which gun is it, that has the biggest ego?

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Feb 15, 2018 17:10:47   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey I own one of those evil black rifles. I have TEN 30 round magazines, I hand load deadly bullets. And so far, my AR15 has never commanded me to kill anyone. My 30 round magazines have never twisted my arm and forced me to go on a rampage. The AR15 WAS NOT developed to "kill as many people as possible" and as a self defense weapon, under certain circumstances, the AR15 cannot be beat. Moreover, the AR15 is an excellent hunting firearm, it can take down game as large as a deer. What I'm trying to tell you is that the AR15, or any firearm for that matter, is not the CAUSE of anyone's death, it is the human being that pulls the trigger, it is the violent human being who is the terrible weapon.

You need to stop focusing on the effects and deal with the causes. Putting bandaids on headaches ain't gonna work, never has.

Here's a newsflash: the problem is not the gun, the problem is moral decay, cultural corruption, societal breakdown, educational failures, the destruction of the nuclear family. Gun control laws never have or ever will cure this sickness. When a mentally ill individual or a violent criminal needs a weapon, he will get one regardless of any laws on the books. If the sicko can't get a gun, he will get something else.
Hey I own one of those evil black rifles. I have T... (show quote)


You can ask the people in the UK and Australia as to how well gun control works and they will tell you that they wished they had their guns back so that they could defend their families against the Muslims invading their countries. No getting rid of guns is not the solution because that would open us up to a government that would overthrow our government and destroy us.

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Feb 15, 2018 17:33:37   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
banner, School prayer is unconstitutional. Its also a terrible idea. I don't know about you, but I don't want my kids saying a prayer of another religion.I thought you conservatives want the government out of the peoples lives. Let the parents take care of religion. Let the schools teach the 3 rs.
bahmer wrote:
Maybe it is about time that the public schools start letting God back into the classroom as well as some good old patriotism. Start with a school prayer over the P.A. and then follow up with the pledge of allegiance and the singing of the national anthem. Schools refusing to follow this will loose all federal subsidies no if ands or buts about it.

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Feb 15, 2018 17:35:01   #
bahmer
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
banner, School prayer is unconstitutional. Its also a terrible idea. I don't know about you, but I don't want my kids saying a prayer of another religion.I thought you conservatives want the government out of the peoples lives. Let the parents take care of religion. Let the schools teach the 3 rs.


Send your kids top a religious school of your choice or home school them then.

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Feb 15, 2018 17:55:03   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
El, Terrible idea. Kids can't learn if they don't feel safe. Having armed teachers is not the answer. Getting rid of the AR15 is one answer. Metal detectors is another. Maniacs can buy AR15s legacy, thanks to the Republicans that passed the law that lets criminals on the terrorist watch list buy as many of them as they like, LEGALLY. Lots of Republicans in congress say they want to do away with this law. Hooray for them. This shouldn't be another liberal/conservative debate. It is the best way to save the lives of kids. This young man Cruiz bought the assault rifle legally, and the people he lived with never saw this mass murder coming!
El, Terrible idea. Kids can't learn if they don't ... (show quote)


The Supreme Court decision that the public has the right to keep and bear arms was not a universal blanket permission. Those with mental illnesses were specifically excluded from the group which can purchase and keep arms, legally. This shooter gave evidence of mental instability for many years before he acquired the weapon and used it to murder students. The system failed to identify him as a high risk individual who should have been banned from buying weapons. Contrast this with the ease with which the TSA can put people on the no-fly list which essentially destroys their lives thereafter.

It does not matter which weapon he used, there are many others which could do the same thing. Shooting unarmed people who are massed to exit what ostensibly was a burning building was diabolical and easy to do with any kind of gun. He could have used blunderbuses loaded with nuts and bolts to do the same thing.

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Feb 15, 2018 18:55:32   #
emarine
 
archie bunker wrote:
Look up the Ruger Mini-14. Same gun. It just LOOKS different.



I'll take the Ruger...

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Feb 15, 2018 19:13:24   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
emarine wrote:
I'll take the Ruger...
Let's get serious

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Feb 15, 2018 19:33:22   #
lamont
 
byronglimish wrote:
The FBI was warned about this weirdo..and failed to follow thru..


Oh, you mean the organization that is supposed to take care of people like this kid? This isn't the first time they have screwed up like this.

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Feb 15, 2018 19:34:25   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Jflorio, Clearly you would rather play with your AR15 toy than be concerned about the lives of innocents, mostly kids. If that maniac that murdered so many people at the music festival had a bolt action rifle instead os an assault rifle with a high capacity magazine and no bumper stock, a whole lot less people would have been gone. If Cruze wouldn't have had an AR15 semi, a lot less kids would have died.
I can't believe that you gun nuts still use that tired lie, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Yes people kill people but they use guns to do it, and the AR15 is their weapon of choice, and thats the fact, Jack!quote=JFlorio]////If you think banning AR15's would have prevented these shootings you're dumber than I thought and that's going some. Go ahead whiner,
name the gun law you would pass that would have stopped these killings. Until you can do that STFU![/quote]

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Feb 15, 2018 19:45:49   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Not true. Especially in this case. Could you imagine the damage he could have done close up with a pump 12 gauge. He walked out with plenty of ammo still on him. So the type gun had no real determination on how many dead. People set on the murder of many won’t use a bolt action rifle. Guess what? They also won’t care what type weapon you ban. If a security guard would have had a scary AR15 we might just have one dead. The shooter. Fact is you guys get your panties in a bunch over a scary looking rifle when the vast number of murders are committed by handguns. He also had been looking on line at how to make bombs. If he couldn’t have gotten a gun who knows what he’d have done. Your Ilk are the ones getting kids killed. You just keep naming solutions that won’t work so you feel good about your self. For your info my AR IS IN MY 600!lb. gun safe.
saltwind 78 wrote:
Jflorio, Clearly you would rather play with your AR15 toy than be concerned about the lives of innocents, mostly kids. If that maniac that murdered so many people at the music festival had a bolt action rifle instead os an assault rifle with a high capacity magazine and no bumper stock, a whole lot less people would have been gone. If Cruze wouldn't have had an AR15 semi, a lot less kids would have died.
I can't believe that you gun nuts still use that tired lie, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Yes people kill people but they use guns to do it, and the AR15 is their weapon of choice, and thats the fact, Jack!quote=JFlorio]////If you think banning AR15's would have prevented these shootings you're dumber than I thought and that's going some. Go ahead whiner,
name the gun law you would pass that would have stopped these killings. Until you can do that STFU!
Jflorio, Clearly you would rather play with your A... (show quote)
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Feb 15, 2018 20:08:34   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
All of you lefty lucy home grown commies are all led by corporate see'eye'aye CNN/MSLSD
propagandists WHO ARE THEMSELVES ARMED, and as the media hypocrits all Virtue Signal to You
lefty lucy cult followers/suckers <> they Themselves always Conceal Carry or hire Armed bodyguards.

Yer NWO lucy cult leaders are Always laughing behind yer back. =^.^=

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Feb 15, 2018 20:29:22   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:




Ok... you win...

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