slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Really, you ask "How could they have known what would be parading as 'religion?' " Islam, as a religion, was founded a thousand years before the time of our Founding Fathers. As educated men, they were fully aware of the existence of Islam at the time of our nation's founding. Christianity and Islam having both originated in the Middle East, why should they have doubted/questioned the spread of Islam any less than the spread of Christianity?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Well; I guess you are saying; they screwed up. Who would have thought traitors would be running the government.
That should stir the pot.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Well, nobody's perfect...not even our Founding Fathers. But, they were about as good as it gets. I, for one, forgive their shortcomings as prognosticators of all that would transpire in our nation's history.

kcstargoat

Nope. I agree with the right of the people to assemble, just don't agree with the presence in our country of a people who want to kill us and transform the nation.

acknowledgeurma

So you agree that Muslims have a right to assemble, just not in the USA.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

No. Just yours. People like you who ask dumb questions should not be allowed to assemble, peacefully or otherwise. Come to think of it, we should probably ban you from procreating as well.

acknowledgeurma

Too late. :)

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Aaaaargh! Kill it before it grows! Do it! Now!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Well, nobody's perfect...not even our Founding Fathers. But, they were about as good as it gets..." - Slat

Well we agree on that, Slat
That has a nice ring to it.
Ring the Bell of Freedom.

kcstargoat

No, I don't believe foreign non-citizen people have the right to assemble to protest our Nation's law and order, politics, charities or religions. They do have the right to leave our country and I am willing to help them with that with a donation for food and water for the trip.

Homestead

There is nothing compatible with Islam and our Constitution, never mind freedom and liberty.

Publius Huldah's videos, what can Americans do about Islam?
http://vimeo.com/63431881

Publius Huldah Explains Why Islamists Don’t Have the Right to Build Mosques, Proselytize Or Institute Sharia Law In America
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/publius-huldah-explains-why-islamists-dont-have-the-right-to-build-mosques-proselytize-or-institute-sharia-law-in-america/

Is Islam incompatible with U.S. Constitution?
Are the Quran and the U.S. Constitution compatible?

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the “free exercise” of religion, yet Mohammad said “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57). The Quran also states in Sura 4:89 “Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back (from Islam), take hold of them and kill them wherever you find them.”

The First Amendment states Congress shall not abridge “the freedom of speech,” yet Islamic law enforces dhimmi status on non-Muslims, prohibiting them from observing their religious practices publicly, raising their voices during prayer, ringing church bells or say anything considered “insulting to Islam.” Islamic law relegates non-Muslims to “dhimmi” status, where they are not to propagate their customs among Muslims and cannot display a cross, Christmas decorations, or the Star of David.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away “the right of the people to peaceably assemble,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot repair places of worship or build new ones, they must allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings, they cannot bring their dead near the graveyards of Muslims or mourn their dead loudly.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away the right of the people “to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims are not to harbor any hostility towards the Islamic state or give comfort to those who disagree with Islamic government.


The Second Amendment states “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot possess arms, swords or weapons of any kind.

The Third Amendment states one cannot be forced to “quarter” someone in their house, yet Islamic law states non-Muslims must entertain and feed for three days any Muslim who wants to stay in their home, and for a longer period if the Muslim falls ill, and they cannot prevent Muslim travelers from staying in their places of worship.

The Fourth Amendment guarantees “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,” yet Islamic law states if a non-Muslim rides on a horse with a saddle and bridle, the horse can be taken away.

The Fifth Amendment states that “no person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime … without due process of law,” yet Mohammad said “No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (infidel).” (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, No. 50).

The Sixth Amendment guarantees a “public trial by an impartial jury” and the Seventh Amendment states “the right of trial by jury shall be preserved,” yet Islamic law does not give non-Muslims equal legal standing with Muslims, even prohibiting them from testifying in court against Muslims.

The Eighth Amendment states there shall be no “cruel and unusual punishments inflicted,” yet the Quran states: “Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done – a deterrent from Allah.” (Sura 5:38) A woman who has been raped is also punished “with a hundred stripes.” (Sura 24:2) Women can be beaten: “If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them” (Sura 4:34). Honor killings of wives and daughters who have embarrassed their families have been reported by the United Nations in Muslim populations of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen and increasing in Western nations.

The 13th Amendment states there shall be no “slavery or involuntary servitude,” yet the Quran accommodates slavery as Mohammad owned slaves.

The 14th Amendment guarantees citizens “equal protection of the laws,” yet the Quran does not consider Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims as equal to Muslims before the law. Referring to Jews as “the People of the Book,” Mohammad said: “They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under his wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine” (Sura 5:60, 7:166, 2:65).

The 15th Amendment guarantees “the right of the citizens … to vote shall not be denied … on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude,” yet strict interpretation of Islamic law does not allow voting, as democracy is considered people setting themselves in the place of Allah by making the laws.

The 16th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as “Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes from whatever source derived.” Mohammad said “Fight those who believe not in Allah … until they pay the jizya [tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Sura 9:29)

The 18th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as “the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors … for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.”

The 19th Amendment allows women to vote, yet in strict Islamic countries women cannot vote.

The 21st Amendment allows for the sale of liquor, yet Islamic law states non-Muslims are not to sell or drink wine and liquor openly.

One would assume that to swear upon a book implies believing what is in that book. As Mohammad was not just a religious leader, but also a political-military leader, Sharia Islam is not just a religious system, but also a political-military system.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/is-islam-incompatible-with-u-s-constitution/?cat_orig=education&AID=7236


Islam - What the West Needs to Know (full)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mllMkm8pcVU

The Koran is considered by Muslims and traditional Islamic theology to be dictated, word for word, by God himself, (by Allah himself) through the angel Gabriel, to the prophet Mohammad.
As a result, every word of it, are the words of God himself. Every word of the Koran, unless it is canceled by another section of the Koran itself, is valid for all time and:
It cannot be questioned.
It cannot be reformed.
It cannot be changed, within the Islamic context.

This means that moderate Muslims, peaceful Muslims, if they are sincere, have to reject entirely Koranic literalism, but, to do so, puts them outside the sphere of anything that has been considered orthodox Islam throughout history. Because, to do so is to reject the very basic premise of Islam, that this is a book, that is dictated by God and is a perfect copy, of a perfect book, the mother book, that has existed forever, with Allah, in heaven.

acknowledgeurma

Somewhat like the Christians and Jews in the US who reject literal interpretations of the Bible. What is your point? Are we to require of citizens, that they eschew all literal interpretations of Scripture?

kcstargoat

Nice recitation of the Quran. Kill people who are not Muslim. All I needed to read. The rest of your presentation is a clever interpretation of the Constitution. OH yeah. Three crusades later you claim Muslims can not have weapons. What was that in ISIS's hands - a toaster? We have neither the time or inclination, as Americans, to vet you to see if you can live in America and are not lying about it. Too many illegal aliens have already cowardly attacked innocent and unarmed men, women and children in the USA. Not to mention Muslims protesting the free food and lodging we have provided and demanding money from us. Many Muslims confront Americans with Islamic practices every day. Go Home! We don't want you here!

kcstargoat

Nice recitation of the Quran. Kill people who are not Muslim. All I needed to read. The rest of your presentation is a clever interpretation of the Constitution. OH yeah. Three crusades later you claim Muslims can not have weapons. What was that in ISIS's hands - a toaster? We have neither the time or inclination, as Americans, to vet you to see if you can live in America and are not lying about it. Too many illegal aliens have already cowardly attacked innocent and unarmed men, women and children in the USA. Not to mention Muslims protesting the free food and lodging we have provided and demanding money from us. Many Muslims confront Americans with Islamic practices every day. Go Home! We don't want you here!

kcstargoat