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Oct 7, 2016 20:45:33   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
and you do not come across as a graduate student....and OPP does not emulate classroom communication dynamics.


Oh! But I am a graduate student!! See? You judge so harshly!!

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Oct 7, 2016 20:48:59   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
archie bunker wrote:
I could go on, and on. The insurance companies have been screwing us for years due to government regulations brought on by lobbyists, and bought politicians.
Now, the 'average' family who are betwixt, and between are screwed.
Kinda funny how none of this hurts the people at the top, and helps people at the bottom, and screws the middle ain't it?

Another point. If all of these government programs are so damn great, why don't any of the governing class participate in them?
You know, Obamacare, public education, green energy.
I could go on, and on. The insurance companies hav... (show quote)


Some of the betwixt and between have helped in expansion states but are getting screwed tighter in the post-ACA non-expansion states. The whole idea was to expand Medicaid to include not just the poor but the middle class by covering up to 400% of the federal poverty limit (reaching into the middle class income). But when a state didn't expand, these middle class were sold out. Can't qualify for a subsidy and can't afford to buy it.

Government programs will never completely solve stuff; they can only sort of regulate which direction they want to see the private sector go. Government is really its citizens. Citizens didn't want to see folks like trdnst's son be uninsurable. Government wrote the ACA to tell the private industry they had to cover everyone. Private industry told government they'd better make everyone buy insurance because the costs to cover the sick and all those who actually need health insurance is way too high for most folks to afford.

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Oct 7, 2016 20:51:30   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
son of witless wrote:
No NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama Care blew up the old system. Humpty Dumpty cannot be put back together. Amerika you voted for this. Us regular Americans di-int. So why are us good folk paying for your screw up?


Well, look at it this way. If you get hit by a bus and live, you can't be told you are no longer insurable or that you met your lifetime limit of benefits.

Oh yeah, or have to pay more for getting hit by a bus (a "hit by a bus fee/premium") which you had absolutely no control over anyways.

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Oct 7, 2016 21:00:37   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Morgan wrote:
I hate to tell you but her having a problem has nothing to do with the ACA it has to do with the %*& insurance company. The ACA is a market place, you(the person) picks the company and policy, some states have larger choices than others. I am sorry for the hardship your daughter, you and your family has gone through. The insurance companies are the problem, IMO.


Right again.

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Oct 7, 2016 21:06:16   #
Progressive One
 
archie bunker wrote:
Oh! But I am a graduate student!! See? You judge so harshly!!


well...I can pull some of your name-calling posts and say you don't come across as such, just like you did with me as a professor...most are not bad i'll admit but you do have your moments:


1.Really? Again? Here you go with another load of bullshit, and insults you fucking idiot! And you're stupid enough to whine about people insulting you back!! Give us a break!!
.
When I watched the debate I knew someone would use the cocaine sniffles, and the follow along, too stupid to think for themselvers like yourself would hop all over it. There are a lot of things that cause the sniffles, BUT NOOOOOO!!! Let's run with cocaine because that is what we were told to run with!!
Do you have any idea how desperate, and pathetic this shit makes you people look? Obviously not!
2.Not hard to see why normal black people call your type niggers. You display it well.
3.Yep. And they have their share of wetbacks. I go there for work every day. I see it, and hear it.
4.Simple plan. Drop pigs from planes with altitude sensitive explosives, say, 200 ft up all over infested areas. When they run, use spray planes with a slurry of ground up hog, and hog blood to chase them further into a corner. Then bomb the crap out of em! I would be willing to forego a month without bacon for that.

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Oct 7, 2016 21:37:57   #
son of witless
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Well, look at it this way. If you get hit by a bus and live, you can't be told you are no longer insurable or that you met your lifetime limit of benefits.

Oh yeah, or have to pay more for getting hit by a bus (a "hit by a bus fee/premium") which you had absolutely no control over anyways.


No, well look at it this way, you used to have health care, now you don't. The rich guy can afford his premiums no matter how much Obama Care raises them. The poor guy on welfare, he got his health care for free. He don't make nothin.

You ain't rich and you ain't poor enough. Obama Care costs three times what you were paying and you can't afford it. But, BUT, but Obamacare is super wonderful, ain't it?? No, why? Because even though you are not rich, Obama Care says you are too rich to get the subsidies that the Obama dead beat gets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The middle class is royally screwed! What doncha get? Not poor enough and not rich enough.What doncha get?

You never heard this afore? Never? Well wake up!

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Oct 7, 2016 21:41:48   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
well...I can pull some of your name-calling posts and say you don't come across as such, just like you did with me as a professor...most are not bad i'll admit but you do have your moments:


1.Really? Again? Here you go with another load of bullshit, and insults you fucking idiot! And you're stupid enough to whine about people insulting you back!! Give us a break!!
.
When I watched the debate I knew someone would use the cocaine sniffles, and the follow along, too stupid to think for themselvers like yourself would hop all over it. There are a lot of things that cause the sniffles, BUT NOOOOOO!!! Let's run with cocaine because that is what we were told to run with!!
Do you have any idea how desperate, and pathetic this shit makes you people look? Obviously not!
2.Not hard to see why normal black people call your type niggers. You display it well.
3.Yep. And they have their share of wetbacks. I go there for work every day. I see it, and hear it.
4.Simple plan. Drop pigs from planes with altitude sensitive explosives, say, 200 ft up all over infested areas. When they run, use spray planes with a slurry of ground up hog, and hog blood to chase them further into a corner. Then bomb the crap out of em! I would be willing to forego a month without bacon for that.
well...I can pull some of your name-calling posts ... (show quote)


Those are my words, and I own them. Yep. I feel no guilt, or shame for them.
That an inherent quality in my pink pigskin, melatonin challenged, cracker, trailer park type. You know how us privileged white folks are.

Would you care for me to dredge up some of yours? I can do that if you would like.

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Oct 7, 2016 21:45:16   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
No, well look at it this way, you used to have health care, now you don't. The rich guy can afford his premiums no matter how much Obama Care raises them. The poor guy on welfare, he got his health care for free. He don't make nothin.

You ain't rich and you ain't poor enough. Obama Care costs three times what you were paying and you can't afford it. But, BUT, but Obamacare is super wonderful, ain't it?? No, why? Because even though you are not rich, Obama Care says you are too rich to get the subsidies that the Obama dead beat gets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The middle class is royally screwed! What doncha get? Not poor enough and not rich enough.What doncha get?

You never heard this afore? Never? Well wake up!
No, well look at it this way, you used to have hea... (show quote)


What I was sayin!!!!!!!!!!!👍👍

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Oct 7, 2016 21:53:06   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Well, look at it this way. If you get hit by a bus and live, you can't be told you are no longer insurable or that you met your lifetime limit of benefits.

Oh yeah, or have to pay more for getting hit by a bus (a "hit by a bus fee/premium") which you had absolutely no control over anyways.


Think about it a little Witless.

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Oct 7, 2016 22:00:01   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Think about it a little Witless.


Speak plain Bad Bob. Spit it out.

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Oct 7, 2016 22:05:07   #
Progressive One
 
archie bunker wrote:
Those are my words, and I own them. Yep. I feel no guilt, or shame for them.
That an inherent quality in my pink pigskin, melatonin challenged, cracker, trailer park type. You know how us privileged white folks are.

Would you care for me to dredge up some of yours? I can do that if you would like.


Oh I never professed to being a choir boy....but I know one thing...if you review my posts and see what they are in response to, you will see equally or more nastier things were said to me first...and I've never mastered the concept of taking verbal abuse in stride...

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Oct 7, 2016 22:10:23   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
Speak plain Bad Bob. Spit it out.


Listen to UncleJesse and try to THINK.

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Oct 7, 2016 22:25:34   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Progressive One wrote:
Oh I never professed to being a choir boy....but I know one thing...if you review my posts and see what they are in response to, you will see equally or more nastier things were said to me first...and I've never mastered the concept of taking verbal abuse in stride...


C-mon man!! You gotta admit that sometimes you swung first!! We have all been personally abusive to each other here. Some abuse right, some wrong.
I'm willing to smoke the peace pipe here....but don't lie to me, or mock me for my opinions.
If I disagree with you, I disagree with you. Period. It doesn't mean we can't be friendly.
Hell!! I'm married to a soft hearted, Christian woman who disagrees with me 1/2 the time, and I am the same with her.
We never resort to the crap that OPP has devolved into.
Unless we are having fun, of course.

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Oct 7, 2016 22:34:00   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Speak plain Bad Bob. Spit it out.


Bob is a man of few words. You should just get it!
By 'get' I mean understand. I'm a Texan, we get it. Depending on the context the word 'get' is used in......

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Oct 7, 2016 22:34:21   #
Progressive One
 
archie bunker wrote:
C-mon man!! You gotta admit that sometimes you swung first!! We have all been personally abusive to each other here. Some abuse right, some wrong.
I'm willing to smoke the peace pipe here....but don't lie to me, or mock me for my opinions.
If I disagree with you, I disagree with you. Period. It doesn't mean we can't be friendly.
Hell!! I'm married to a soft hearted, Christian woman who disagrees with me 1/2 the time, and I am the same with her.
We never resort to the crap that OPP has devolved into.
Unless we are having fun, of course.
C-mon man!! You gotta admit that sometimes you swu... (show quote)



If I did swing first, someone could have brought it to my attention and I would have recanted. But I'm kool with being friendly...let's just work to disagree in a non-insulting manner. I think that is what makes things go down hill.

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