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Nov 14, 2013 10:26:08   #
donc711 Loc: North East Kansas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Nowhere in our Constitution does it mention the word religion except for in exclusionary terms. The words God, Jesus, Bible or Christianity were never mentioned, not once!


That is a non-argument. The founders used the Bible to form the constitution. They used the Bible by the way they were raised. Mostly Christian, and those who were deists were raised by moral parents. Morality came about by implication of Jewish law even though other nations around the time of founding of Israel had laws governing everything thing contained in the Bible while missing some very important issues.

Our constitution contains all of the Christian principles. Not many other countries I know of do. Even King James when he authorized his translation of scripture made sure the king was dominate as the head and vicar of God on earth. The quotes of Peter and Paul have some scholarly concerns because of King James intervention. Subjects your researcher avoids for good reason.

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Nov 14, 2013 10:41:28   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
"We establish no religion is this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and State are and must remain separate." Ronald Reagan


donc711 wrote:
That is a non-argument. The founders used the Bible to form the constitution. They used the Bible by the way they were raised. Mostly Christian, and those who were deists were raised by moral parents. Morality came about by implication of Jewish law even though other nations around the time of founding of Israel had laws governing everything thing contained in the Bible while missing some very important issues.

Our constitution contains all of the Christian principles. Not many other countries I know of do. Even King James when he authorized his translation of scripture made sure the king was dominate as the head and vicar of God on earth. The quotes of Peter and Paul have some scholarly concerns because of King James intervention. Subjects your researcher avoids for good reason.
That is a non-argument. The founders used the Bibl... (show quote)

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Nov 14, 2013 20:53:41   #
Absolom_Absolom
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Nowhere in our Constitution does it mention the word religion except for in exclusionary terms. The words God, Jesus, Bible or Christianity were never mentioned, not once!


That one's already been answered -- several pages back and Yes, YOU WERE WRONG then and still wrong now. Constitution is not foundational document. Came about more than 10 years AFTER the founding of the United States.

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Nov 14, 2013 21:16:47   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Worship of any God is not allowed at our public schools or town hall meetings involving government business. Every President has endorsed the separation of church and state, nothing you can say will change that fact!



Absolom_Absolom wrote:
That one's already been answered -- several pages back and Yes, YOU WERE WRONG then and still wrong now. Constitution is not foundational document. Came about more than 10 years AFTER the founding of the United States.

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Nov 14, 2013 21:49:45   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and State are and must remain separate." Ronald Reagan

The "gipper" would never agree!


You are trying to convince yourself that an empty mind is the path to nirvana. You will never make it, your mind is full of wrong ideas. You are obviously afraid of your future. Clinging to the slippery edge of disaster with no helping hands to save you . You only have to change your grip. take a hold of the truth for a change.

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Nov 14, 2013 22:11:55   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
You are the one worshiping an a imaginary phallic symbol while kneeling with mouth wide open. Never to consider that he will never come!


larry wrote:
You are trying to convince yourself that an empty mind is the path to nirvana. You will never make it, your mind is full of wrong ideas. You are obviously afraid of your future. Clinging to the slippery edge of disaster with no helping hands to save you . You only have to change your grip. take a hold of the truth for a change.

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Nov 14, 2013 23:07:36   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
You are the one worshiping an a imaginary phallic symbol while kneeling with mouth wide open. Never to consider that he will never come!


That is your worry, that He will never come. When He does, you will be climbing into the rocks from fear. It is not too late, change your wicked ways.

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Nov 14, 2013 23:41:09   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Are you speaking of the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny that will never come! Because I would rather have a dime than a egg!


larry wrote:
That is your worry, that He will never come. When He does, you will be climbing into the rocks from fear. It is not too late, change your wicked ways.

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Nov 14, 2013 23:54:22   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Are you speaking of the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny that will never come! Because I would rather have a dime than a egg!


What makes you think that He will never come? Is that what you are afraid of? That you will be left out of all good things? Well you probably will, you don't recognize truth when you hear it or see it.

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Nov 14, 2013 23:57:22   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
You are the one worshiping an a imaginary phallic symbol while kneeling with mouth wide open. Never to consider that he will never come!


That's what they said 2000 years ago, and lo and behold He came. And He will be back.

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Nov 14, 2013 23:58:49   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
When has God spoken to you and when did you see him or her?


larry wrote:
What makes you think that He will never come? Is that what you are afraid of? That you will be left out of all good things? Well you probably will, you don't recognize truth when you hear it or see it.

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Nov 15, 2013 08:18:11   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
When has God spoken to you and when did you see him or her?


God's word is within your reach. He has through inspiration of Men put his desires and promises in writing. The things He has promised and the future He has revealed have all come to pass except the final ending. It would do you more good to read His word and the history of the world than to read the things you have been reading. Do not be afraid to let your intellect overcome your fear.

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Nov 15, 2013 09:14:42   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
AuntiE wrote:
Geez, keep up. It had nothing to do with his positions. One is not a b______d if born to married parents. My objection was the adjective relative to "birth status". If one wants to call him a greedy, heartless, dollar worshiping pig, have at it. You know how persnickety I am about language and word usage.


Perhaps this is a teaching moment for AuntiE that will assist her being even more persnickety in the future:

Dictionary definition of "bastard":

1. A person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child.

2. Slang.

a. A vicious, despicable, or thoroughly disliked person: Some bastard slashed the tires on my car.

b. A person, especially a man: The poor bastard broke his leg.

3. Something irregular, inferior, spurious, or unusual.

4. Bastard culverin.

- Adjective:

5. illegitimate in birth.

6. spurious; not genuine; false: the architecture was bastard Gothic.

7. of abnormal or irregular shape or size; of unusual make or proportions: bastard quartz; bastard mahogany.

8. having the appearance of; resembling in some degree: a bastard Michaelangelo; bastard emeralds.

9. Printing. (of a character) not of the font in which it is used or found.

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Nov 15, 2013 10:33:30   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
50 Presidential Quotes In The Defense of Separation of Church and State!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06/24/separation-of-church-and-state-the-presidents-versus-the-christian-right/

"I am mindful in a free society that people can worship if they want or not. You're equally an American if you choose to worship an almighty or if you choose not to." GW Bush


Yes you have the power of choice, choose well or you will choose disaster. Is that your fear that you will not choose well, Then look to your influence. It may be leading you astray.

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Nov 15, 2013 10:35:03   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
I've been blessed after I sneezed !!


I can imagine that kind of blessing that comes from a degenerate. Probably more of a curse than a blessing.

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