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Oct 26, 2013 08:40:05   #
Stoneyman1 Loc: Kissimmee, FL
 
I think that the first thing everyone should do is to read the Preamble of the Constitution. And then look at every word that is in it. Here it is “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Now that you can see it look at the word BLESSINGS: 1. To make holy by religious rite: sanctify. 2. To make the sign of the cross over so as to sanctify. 3. To invoke divine favor upon. 4. To honor as holy, glorify: Bless the Lord. That is from the Second College Edition, The American Heritage Dictionary. dated 1985. BLESSING: 1. To pronounce a wish of happiness to one; to express a wish or desire of happiness. And Isaac called Jacob and blessed him. Gen xxviii. 2. To make happy; t mak successful; to prosper in temporal concerns; as, we are blest with peace and plenty. The Lord they God shall bless thee in all thou doest Deut. xv. The last is from The American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster 1828. Yes that is a very old copy of the Dictionary. I have that because there are a lot of words in the King James version of the Bible that are not in the current dictionaries. Thank you if you took the time t read this. The founding fathers were and will always be religious.

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Oct 26, 2013 10:01:45   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
At least, to my knowledge, he has not yet been shot at sunrise or sunset for his previous errors.



My case is, currently, on appeal. :mrgreen:It could take years! :thumbup:

That, and the coffee sent is mellowing him out. :wink:

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Oct 26, 2013 12:09:34   #
Stoneyman1 Loc: Kissimmee, FL
 
You didn't read may last statement: Look at the Preamble to the Constitution. There is one wood that you will find there. Remember separation of church and State. Not separation of God and State. Here is the Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The WORD to look for is BLESSINGS: from the American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828:
proper: Making happy; wishing happiness to; praising or extolling; consecrating by prayer.
Second College Edition, The American Heritage Dictionary:
Bless, blessed, blest, blessing: 1. To make holy by religious rite, sanctify; 2. To make the sign of the cross over so as to sanctify. 3. To invoke divine favor upon. 4. To honor as holy; glorify; Bless the Lord.
OK, two dictionaries from two different times and they both say about the same. Blessings=Religious, no other way to look at it.
Thank You So Much: Pastor/Minister P. Merrey

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Oct 26, 2013 12:18:00   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
My case is, currently, on appeal. :mrgreen:It could take years! :thumbup:

That, and the coffee sent is mellowing him out. :wink:


Your fees for your bail have been put in the debit column, i.e., coffee, shipping, time to purchase coffee, etc. 8-)

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Oct 26, 2013 12:45:26   #
charlie4175
 
I agree, we haven't been vigilent.That's why there are so many Illegal aliens hre and an idiot in the Whitehouse who wants to give them amnisty. He's usurped powers of Congress and makes up the rules to suit only his own agendas. Why hasn't he ben Impeached?

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Oct 26, 2013 12:48:35   #
VladimirPee
 
Yes and the Mexican's are targeting America as opposed to heading illegally into other nations. Sounds racist to me.

charlie4175 wrote:
I agree, we haven't been vigilent.That's why there are so many Illegal aliens hre and an idiot in the Whitehouse who wants to give them amnisty. He's usurped powers of Congress and makes up the rules to suit only his own agendas. Why hasn't he ben Impeached?

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Oct 26, 2013 12:51:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
Your fees for your bail have been put in the debit column, i.e., coffee, shipping, time to purchase coffee, etc. 8-)



Yeah, I'll get back to you on that! :mrgreen:You take checks....post-dated?

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Oct 26, 2013 13:02:22   #
Donmac Loc: Lincoln, RI
 
This response is clearly most accurate and clearly the aim of government to rule your life is the true aim of too many politicians, especially today. We are not citizens of this country, but, as Christians, under the Lordship of Christ, who will return to rule this world in Peace one day.

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Oct 26, 2013 14:24:35   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Fact: Nowhere in our Constitution does it mention the word religion except for in "exclusionary" terms. The words God, Jesus, Bible or Christianity are never mentioned, not once!

Stoneyman1 wrote:
You didn't read may last statement: Look at the Preamble to the Constitution. There is one wood that you will find there. Remember separation of church and State. Not separation of God and State. Here is the Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The WORD to look for is BLESSINGS: from the American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, 1828:
proper: Making happy; wishing happiness to; praising or extolling; consecrating by prayer.
Second College Edition, The American Heritage Dictionary:
Bless, blessed, blest, blessing: 1. To make holy by religious rite, sanctify; 2. To make the sign of the cross over so as to sanctify. 3. To invoke divine favor upon. 4. To honor as holy; glorify; Bless the Lord.
OK, two dictionaries from two different times and they both say about the same. Blessings=Religious, no other way to look at it.
Thank You So Much: Pastor/Minister P. Merrey
You didn't read may last statement: Look at the Pr... (show quote)

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Oct 26, 2013 16:17:13   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
The only one on this thread to mention marriage is you, and I'm not the least bit interested!


Then why are you sending me this note.

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Oct 26, 2013 16:34:48   #
larry
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
So the government should use their filthy hands and take away all the churches tax exemptions!


They could try that, but Churches are usually listed as Charitable organizations, and Charity has special exemptions from taxes. I don't believe they really are totally involved in charity. because they make a lot of money asking for contributions that they seem use for campaigns against different candidates. Maybe then don't, but it sometimes appears so.

If you were to tax all charitable organizations, there probably be no charity. You have to be careful what you wish for.

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Oct 26, 2013 17:14:59   #
larry
 
rumitoid wrote:
You said a theory was merely wishful thinking, I was pointing out that it is more than wishful thinking. But here is an interesting article that somewhat supports where I think you are going.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/scienceonreligion/2013/10/a-friendly-reminder-science-isnt-reality-reality-is-reality/


Sorry about taking so long to get back to you, but I was involved in other things.

The article you indicated, indeed takes my comment into the more detailed definition of science, not necessarily as wishful thinking, but the reality of the fact that science observation at any time is only a snippet of reality. The world is just too deeply integrated to attempt a solution from the limited ability of anyone or any group of people to fully explain it. We just do not have the capability of factoring into our observations and thinking all the nuances involved to make a definite finished statement about it. All we can do, is state our impression of any event based on the amount of reality we see in it. If we are lucky, we can filter out the critical parts that let us perform predictions of behavior in seemly similar circumstances. But. I do not believe that we can ever state with 100% certainty that we know it all. This is where the Murphy factor comes into play, and we are left with egg on our faces.

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Oct 26, 2013 17:42:11   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Atheists Can't Be Republicans !

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/26/atheists_cant_be_republicans/

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Oct 26, 2013 17:50:35   #
VladimirPee
 
The patheos article was interesting as were some of the comments. Makes one wonder about reality. We have been investigating the moon for centuries via telescope and. The first lunar ortbit was 54 years ago and the first moon landing was 40 years ago. Dozens of landings by manned and unmanned spacecraft with loads of scientific equipment or sampling arms. Yet it took until 2009 for us to determine there was some form of ice on the moon. Our own moon which is very close to our planet. So it makes one wonder when science can claim to know how the universe was created when we barely know anything about our own solar system.


larry wrote:
Sorry about taking so long to get back to you, but I was involved in other things.

The article you indicated, indeed takes my comment into the more detailed definition of science, not necessarily as wishful thinking, but the reality of the fact that science observation at any time is only a snippet of reality. The world is just too deeply integrated to attempt a solution from the limited ability of anyone or any group of people to fully explain it. We just do not have the capability of factoring into our observations and thinking all the nuances involved to make a definite finished statement about it. All we can do, is state our impression of any event based on the amount of reality we see in it. If we are lucky, we can filter out the critical parts that let us perform predictions of behavior in seemly similar circumstances. But. I do not believe that we can ever state with 100% certainty that we know it all. This is where the Murphy factor comes into play, and we are left with egg on our faces.
Sorry about taking so long to get back to you, but... (show quote)

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Oct 26, 2013 18:11:39   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
DennisDee wrote:
Yes and the Mexican's are targeting America as opposed to heading illegally into other nations. Sounds racist to me.


I repeat: We need immigration reform. We should reform our immigration laws so they are a duplicate of Mexico's, and see how they like them apples.

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