larry

It seems that demons, are being invited into our government by people who seem to be of the same pact. Now all we have to do, is figure out how to get them out of there, Their main thrust,is to drive this country into the pits, like all the rest that grew and failed over history. Since there is such a heavy thrust toward hedonism lately, they are getting bolder and bolder, and soon will (maybe already have) destroy this concept of Liberty and Freedom. It is time to put in some decent people in the government. Little by little, bit by bit, until the demons are begging to be let loose to go back to the swine herd they came from.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I like what you wrote. To bad that those in Government don't realize the devil h**es them too. Once he's done with them to reach "his own" agenda, they'll fare worse than what they've done to this country.

larry

I believe that at this time, God is letting the whole world see what kind of civilization we would have under Satan's control. He is trying to wake us up and return to Him. If we don't do it on our own, He will do it for us. Our problem is that we do not know how to turn it around now. All this was predicted, and the solution was given. We have not followed it. We still have some time left, I don't know how much, but some.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

It is kinda like this:

"3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
*4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. II Corinthians 11:3-4.

What the very last part: "ye might well bear with him" is saying that if you do receive/accept the wrong stuff, then you need to not complain of the outcome, but go with it in as humbled of manner as possible.
If the V**ers can't do something in '16, next stop Hilary.

It certainly won't be the end of the world, but the break down of this Great America will become much more advanced.

larry

If my people will turn from their evil ways and return to me, I will heal their nation

dukeofsc

I admire posts like this to a point, but the reality of the matter IMHO is this, by the time the people whom you speak of do wake up or turn its far too late and the die is cast, the real problem is the fact that for far too long, people have either sat on their behinds and done nothing or decided it wasn't their place to do anything or last but not least, didn't have the balls to speak out in mass about what was being done, we as a whole have gone on our merry way just like the ones who passed over the injured man in the parable of the good Samaritan, to keep in the context of this thread I guess. we have allowed either by inaction or capitulation the stage to be set as it is now, lack of interest in the who's, whats, wheres of those whom have gotten to positions of power over us is going to be our ultimate downfall, you've stated it clearly enough using scripture, although at this stage of the game, most will either not read your post or give a hoot about what it is your writing or saying anyway. I'm afraid it simply must run its course as it has so many, many, many times in the past, its an inevitable trait of ours to self destruct every so many years, cant be helped or stopped.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Thank you for your shallow understanding of the Good Samaritan.
It is not a good thing when people skim through scripture, like they do some peoples posts, and expound on what only catches their eye.
The Good Samaritan was an Sumarian, a race of Idol worshipping pagans, whose King Esarhaddon had overran a portion of ancient Israel and moved those Israelites into Sumaria, and planted his Samaritans into that portion of Israel. The whole event is captured in II Kings 29. It is a magnificent ancient historic event that gives much knowledge and understanding of the Good Samaritan of NT. Plus as to what is happening in the Old World of the middle east today in their battles for liberation from that age old darkness.
The acts of the Good Samaritan in NT is an absolute and complete turn around from the millenniums of continued evil, idolatrist, and pagan past his race had lived under. This is the Point of the Parable.
It also ties in with the Mad man that lived within the Cemetary that Jesus healed from the evil spirit Legion, those evil spirits that perished in the sea with the swine.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

That Scripture is: II KINGS chtr 17

I'm sorry for that mistake in chapters

dukeofsc

I guess if my mere mention of a parable in the bible is cause for offense or ridicule then maybe one of us needs to take a break here for a minute eh?? I commented on the simple fact that your posts of previous nature would lead one to believe that you were getting ready for a revival meeting instead of commenting on the current state of affairs, my apologies madam for posing such a bother to you for not giving chapter and verse out of which particular bible I was referring too for the parable. My comments however ring true in the real world of this day and age, our people as a whole have decided that sitting on the bench relying on the fed to care for us all, attend to us all and be there for us all cannot be denied, take a look around and you cant deny it, we've become so enamored with the "I" that we can no longer see the wrongs committed because it's to much bother , we wont be able to text, or sext, or watch the big game on Sunday, or twitter, or tweek, or twerk, or a plethora of other things that cause our abundance of "I" troubles. So please feel free to lay it on me as to what it is that I posted that you didn't agree with in the reality of things, I'm not a devout bible person perse', however since I didn't mention chapter and verse or which bible I would have thought that whomever read my post would take it as a commentary and not a Sunday school class to be audited for PC'ness.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

It isn't one person, one text, one town, or one city big or small that is going to change the reality of today. Not even one or more senators, or even a President.
It is our Lord God, and in his time.
If you were to take away a teens cell phone, computer, or laptop, the results would be complete anger and acting out. These things are already engrained into their way of life.
You can apply that to most of todays reality, all the things that have made America what it is today; an unhappy situation for most. (that's pretty broad, but hope you get my point)
The Old Testament is mainly a lesson on what Sin, or what the Wrong Choice will get ya.
The New Testament is how you can turn that all around by developing a Higher more Mature understanding of life as a whole, and that that change first comes within a person knowing that Higher level of maturity. That level comes only from the Creator who made all things. It's only by belief and Faith.
You are right that they way things are now, people are not going to be able to fix it. Our Lord God will. In OT, when the Jews found themselves totally engulfed by evil, or bad, they Prayed and Cried to God. The whole body of the Jews did, meaning all of them. God would hear their cries and help them. He is a loving God, full of Mercies.
That help did not happen over night however for the Jews, even though when reading the Bible and turning pages, it seems so. The Old Testament covered a very very long period of time.
Those now, in this country, who believe in, love, and have Faith in our Lord God Jesus Christ need to pray and cry for help, the whole body of Christianity no matter their affiliation.
Speaking of, and writing of your faith, voicing it, or what ever- "plants seeds" for when that change does start happening. We as individuals, and as a Christian body need to be healthy enough, disciplined within ourselves- to do Right by that change our Lord God does bring in, overtime, and in his time. We need to have clear and humbled eyes and heart to see it as well.
The body of Christianity is just as much at fault for the way things are in this Country as those with no beliefs other than in themselves. I'm sure we will simmer and marinate in it all a while longer so as to appreciate the change with it begins.
Once again, it won't begin until the body of all who believe in Christ begin Crying (regarding our own faults) and Praying for help.

larry

Somehow, this society has adopted the idea that they are too insignificant to make a difference, so they only complain to the walls of the bathroom. We have opted out of any discussion with anyone about how we feel about the way our society is going because no one wants to feel responsible for what is happening. But we are responsible. by doing nothing, we are enabling the establishment of wrong and evil actions. Whenever you hear someone brave enough to speak out about the things you worry about, encourage and support that person. Then you will begin to see a force develop that will be able to do something. United we stand, divided we fall.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

A house divided will fall. Christians have sat back and enjoyed all the technical toys of today, money- and the need for more of it.
Even still, I went into a church last week, where it was more like an auditorium, and it was jam backed full. A lot of young adults made up the crowd. I was glad just at that alone. Young adults are still in the margin of being impressed upon, being molded by their environment.
This is a church that had to move to a bigger building to be able to seat them all, and still has different session through out Sunday services to reach everyone. Myself and friend that I went with still- had only chairs in the back to sit in.
It is true that if a church is not growing, then they have somehow lost or quieted the Spirit of the Lord.
People have different ways in which they like to hear the Lord preached to them. The older folks seem to enjoy a soft spoken sermon, where little kids like to see pictures and hear stories that they can comprehend about Jesus. Then you have your Hell Fire and Damnation Churches where people like to fall on the floor and speak in tongues (usually without interpretation), jump up and down in their spiritual excitement.
Myself, I like to sing compassionate songs to the lord from my soul, songs that have been in Christian history, and songs of Love. I like to have a Pastor blow my hair back with his voice in Scripture as I am extremely passionate in my Faith. For myself, I like to chew the meat of the Holy Bible rather than sip the milk of it, however I know both are necessary.
I like to be totally saturated by the Spirit and Wisdom of God in Jesus Christ when I go to Church.
However, All forms of Pastoring and Ministering are important and vital to the Christian body.
By the word 'Body', it means every Christian individual, every Christ based Faith Church on Earth makes up the Body of Christ on Earth.
And per a post I read recently, it is through Christ loving individuals that reach out and witness to nonbelievers, is how Christ comes to us all.

As for the Church I visited Last week, I am finding that Jesus has already begun to bring in his change. There were so-so many people there. It took me back to a short story that was given to me at a time a tragedy- yet stands for all people who love our Lord:

A Shepherd had been grazing his sheep in a valley for a long time. During this time his sheep had become fat and lazy in the green plush grass- and wouldn't listen and move about for him anymore.
So the Shepherd decided he would move them to a new grazing ground just as plush, but the path to it was a very high, rocky, and dirt slippery path. Still, they would not listen to him, his voice, nor did they want to move.
So, the Shepherd had an idea: He reached in and took a lamb and started up the path with it. Characteristic of Sheep, soon the Lambs mother began to follow, then, one by one the rest of the sheep began to climb.

Now God is that Shepherd, and the Lamb he took was Jesus Christ. Jesus told his Apostle and his Mother while on the Cross: Woman, this is 'your son' (the Apostle), and this is your Mother. All that believe in Jesus Christ then, now and in the future are the flock.
Our play ground, or grazing ground, has begun to spoil and were all fat and lazy, so it is time to let go of it - and Climb, however difficult it maybe, to something better. Something renewed.
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larry

The problem lately with the big churches, is that they are too big and most of the people in them are strangers, like at a football game. They are looking for something spectacular to jump and scream about. And when they leave, the game is over, for get about it.

There is more love and care in small groups away from all the technology that just gets in the way. In a church so big that you recognize only about 20 people, those small groups need to meet together outside of Church to become united and form small cores of dedicated learners, supporters, sustainers, and teachers. And each in themselves join other groups to start and carry the ambiance along so that no one is a stranger to the message. Once these groups are comfortable with each other, they can start to meet in larger groups, soon the whole Church is infected with the common goal of serving Christ.

It has to start from the bottom up, the sheep need to stick together, and only use the Shepherd for a direction to go. The baby Christians need to form the bait.

Unfortunately, everyone wants just to receive a few minutes of joy and praise, and go home and forget about it until the next time.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I went to another church long ago, where it to had to move into a larger building that they built themselves. It was an awesome church. There were different worship times throughout the Sunday so everyone could attend. Many churches do this. But anyway, in the evenings there were designated homes in specific areas of the city (Amarillo) where you went for smaller groups, for prayer, talk, and lessons. My young kids- pre teens, were baptized in that Church after they brought in the Power Team lead by John Jacobs. That was a team of muscle and bronze wrestlers and ex wrestlers doing magnificent acts for the teens as well as baring their hearts and souls in the Lord Jesus Christ. The Power Team performed at the Civic Auditorium there and sold out each day for the four days they were there. Watching those big guys bare their hearts in Jesus Christ, my kids fell like bricks- and 'asked' to be Baptised. They didn't miss a day that the Team was in town.
What touched me the deepest one Sunday was when it was over, and walking past people still in their seats- I passed by a burly man with tattoos up and down his arms, denim riding vest, sitting with his two kids with tears in his eyes.
During those huge meetings of Sunday worship, as we sang and listened to our Sr. Pastor, I felt like one in the Lord with everyone there. It was great.

But then, the Sr. Pastor had given a couple of sermons on vanity. A few Sunday's after that, he announced that he was going to have a hair piece surgically sown to his head (he was bald, about 38ish in age) because his sermons would go on air. Most of the congregation seemed ok with that, but I wasn't.
To each his own I guess. I just expect a Pastor to abide by his own teachings. Until that, we really enjoyed that Church.

Still, a large congregation for Jesus Christ being together seems to be fine by me. There are usually smaller groups later, as well as Bible Study groups.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

As far as people going to church, then going home and forgetting it all, that isn't so for many. There comes a time in everyones life when they feel totally defeated. It is in those times when a seed that was planted, being in the store-rooms of the heart and mind, begins to grow.
But anyway, this is why people should go to church at least on Sunday's, because the week in between takes a pretty good toll on a persons Faith, in just that time.

Gotta get ready for another stretch at work myself, so I'll catch up with ya later Larry.