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Jan 8, 2014 22:33:38   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Yes they do! However, we create them ourselves in Addictions. So many times when people feel helpless against dysfunctional or abusive forces around them, they also don't know how to cope or deal with it so they find and escape, and become addicted.
Also, recreation drinking and drugs can become very addicting to some youths as they play and experiment with them.

When asking an addicted person 'why' they do it: you will hear that demon began to speak, cry, and whine as to what is behind it they are helpless to, the problemed reason they do it, or just angrily tell you that they like it. Push them to much on the issue, and they will likely yell loudly in your face, or even try to fight you.

Addictions come in many forms, but all in all the person demeans themselves before the face of God, every day.

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Jan 8, 2014 23:06:12   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
This might be the 'Worms' problem.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3027807041001/the-worm-sings-happy-birthday-to-north-korean-dictator/#sp=show-clips

For you that don't remember Dennis Rodman was know as the Worm for his rebounding sk**ls.



rhomin57 wrote:
Yes they do! However, we create them ourselves in Addictions. So many times when people feel helpless against dysfunctional or abusive forces around them, they also don't know how to cope or deal with it so they find and escape, and become addicted.
Also, recreation drinking and drugs can become very addicting to some youths as they play and experiment with them.

When asking an addicted person 'why' they do it: you will hear that demon began to speak, cry, and whine as to what is behind it they are helpless to, the problemed reason they do it, or just angrily tell you that they like it. Push them to much on the issue, and they will likely yell loudly in your face, or even try to fight you.

Addictions come in many forms, but all in all the person demeans themselves before the face of God, every day.
Yes they do! However, we create them ourselves in ... (show quote)

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Jan 8, 2014 23:10:41   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
I agree bmac! Personally I feel rodman is a t*****r and an insult to his homeland, as well as a crazy man always seeking weird attention. I think this time he has done himself in as far as his team-mates go. Doubt he'll learn anything from it.
bmac32 wrote:
This might be the 'Worms' problem.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3027807041001/the-worm-sings-happy-birthday-to-north-korean-dictator/#sp=show-clips

For you that don't remember Dennis Rodman was know as the Worm for his rebounding sk**ls.

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Jan 8, 2014 23:28:30   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Rodman was always touched even when playing in Detroit but he has gone to new levels.



rhomin57 wrote:
I agree bmac! Personally I feel rodman is a t*****r and an insult to his homeland, as well as a crazy man always seeking weird attention. I think this time he has done himself in as far as his team-mates go. Doubt he'll learn anything from it.

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Jan 9, 2014 00:53:09   #
Brian Devon
 
rhomin57 wrote:
I agree bmac! Personally I feel rodman is a t*****r and an insult to his homeland, as well as a crazy man always seeking weird attention. I think this time he has done himself in as far as his team-mates go. Doubt he'll learn anything from it.


I don't know if Rodman is a t*****r. However I do know he is an embarrassment. I also think he is none too wise. The N. Korean leader is like an aggressive pit bull that has tasted blood. Why does Mr. Rodman think he might not be on this guy's menu? The North Korean didn't just k**l his uncle. He threw him in, alive,with caged dogs that hadn't been fed for days. Shades of the Roman emperor Caligula

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Jan 9, 2014 01:44:17   #
rumitoid
 
Consciousness is a great mystery to scientists but recent research, including that is Quantum Mechanics, is leading to strange and wondrous speculations...and dangerous ones. Psychic energy, like magnetism and gravity, is a real force. "Getting someone's vibe" is a real possibility. Such force has measurable influence on instruments and others. This is not sci-fi or new agey. Energy cannot be destroyed. Whether this means that souls after they die can affect others has not been answered but shockingly is being honestly asked by prominent scientist in a number of fields.

Back in college in '89 (I was retread), I met a woman who had 13 years of sobriety who had a distinctly different message than I had heard up until that time with my 5 years. She now has well over forty years and has personally helped hundreds and hundreds and probably tens of thousands on the speaking tour. We became good friends and eventually roommates for three years (just roommates). One night she told me about an experience she had had in early sobriety, still naively thinking she could save the world. An alcoholic had called her from a bar all sobby and claiming she wanted to get sober: could she come and pick her up. My friend went.

Some background about my friend. She was not religious and had a real attitude, she said, toward so-called "religious people"; her parents and Christian boarding school being the primary and hurtful bad examples. She was also street smart (except in her tenderness to help other alcoholics, where she was for a time, as she described, a total sap). And she also had a New England natural skepticism. Enter the saloon.

From the moment she walked in the door she felt assaulted by "the energy." In looking for the women in distress that had called, she witnessed other entities hovering around a half dozen people in the crowded bar. Then one seemed to be sucked into a person. This was way behind anything she had ever seen or could possibly imagine. And the last thing that registered before she fled was that these entities seemed, in her brief observation, to be aware of her and shifting away from her presence.

On a much smaller scale, about five years later, there was a repeat performance. She was watching a news story about a Catholic archbishop in NM that was meant to be upbeat and for a fleeting glimpse thought she saw the shadow of a hovering entity. She called me about it, now being back in her home state. We both laughed at her "losing it." A month later that archbishop was asked to resign for "improprieties."

"Do demons exist?" I trust my friend's experience. If she says she saw them, knowing her, I am compelled to agree. The closest I have come is in just sensing the presence of evil or in seeing something in the eyes of a person that warns me of trouble.

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Jan 9, 2014 03:11:29   #
PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.
 
rumitoid wrote:
Consciousness is a great mystery to scientists but recent research, including that is Quantum Mechanics, is leading to strange and wondrous speculations...and dangerous ones. Psychic energy, like magnetism and gravity, is a real force. "Getting someone's vibe" is a real possibility. Such force has measurable influence on instruments and others. This is not sci-fi or new agey. Energy cannot be destroyed. Whether this means that souls after they die can affect others has not been answered but shockingly is being honestly asked by prominent scientist in a number of fields.

Back in college in '89 (I was retread), I met a woman who had 13 years of sobriety who had a distinctly different message than I had heard up until that time with my 5 years. She now has well over forty years and has personally helped hundreds and hundreds and probably tens of thousands on the speaking tour. We became good friends and eventually roommates for three years (just roommates). One night she told me about an experience she had had in early sobriety, still naively thinking she could save the world. An alcoholic had called her from a bar all sobby and claiming she wanted to get sober: could she come and pick her up. My friend went.

Some background about my friend. She was not religious and had a real attitude, she said, toward so-called "religious people"; her parents and Christian boarding school being the primary and hurtful bad examples. She was also street smart (except in her tenderness to help other alcoholics, where she was for a time, as she described, a total sap). And she also had a New England natural skepticism. Enter the saloon.

From the moment she walked in the door she felt assaulted by "the energy." In looking for the women in distress that had called, she witnessed other entities hovering around a half dozen people in the crowded bar. Then one seemed to be sucked into a person. This was way behind anything she had ever seen or could possibly imagine. And the last thing that registered before she fled was that these entities seemed, in her brief observation, to be aware of her and shifting away from her presence.

On a much smaller scale, about five years later, there was a repeat performance. She was watching a news story about a Catholic archbishop in NM that was meant to be upbeat and for a fleeting glimpse thought she saw the shadow of a hovering entity. She called me about it, now being back in her home state. We both laughed at her "losing it." A month later that archbishop was asked to resign for "improprieties."

"Do demons exist?" I trust my friend's experience. If she says she saw them, knowing her, I am compelled to agree. The closest I have come is in just sensing the presence of evil or in seeing something in the eyes of a person that warns me of trouble.
Consciousness is a great mystery to scientists but... (show quote)


I am at a loss for words, I wish to experience something such as this, I want to because I want to see it, I want to feel it, I want to perceive it. I am very interested in this now. I have experienced the feeling I cannot describe, let alone accurately remember, but, one day 1 year ago, something happened to me that has scarred me, I had dreams of my friend, who was dead, I could see him, I could talk to him. I wish I could go on about this but It makes me question reality, it makes me stop thinking. I barley remember what it was about or what we talked about, but I always have a faint recollection of it.

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Jan 9, 2014 11:19:56   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Brian Devon wrote:
I don't know if Rodman is a t*****r. However I do know he is an embarrassment. I also think he is none too wise. The N. Korean leader is like an aggressive pit bull that has tasted blood. Why does Mr. Rodman think he might not be on this guy's menu? The North Korean didn't just k**l his uncle. He threw him in, alive,with caged dogs that hadn't been fed for days. Shades of the Roman emperor Caligula



Perhaps you didn't follow this story as many are wont to do when they become emotional. The article was designed to be satire! Is it necessary for it to carry a label saying Comedy or Satire for some people to realize what is intended. If so, they don't have a mind.

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Jan 9, 2014 12:57:41   #
Brian Devon
 
Alicia wrote:
Perhaps you didn't follow this story as many are wont to do when they become emotional. The article was designed to be satire! Is it necessary for it to carry a label saying Comedy or Satire for some people to realize what is intended. If so, they don't have a mind.


Point noted.

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Jan 9, 2014 17:32:20   #
dukeofsc
 
Don't be so mean,
he cant help himself he's had too large
a dose of good old fashion
American capitalism for far too long,
being as old as I am
and having served my nation honorably
he's what I would consider to be this generations

"HANOI JANE"

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Jan 9, 2014 18:22:31   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
I agree with your comment rumi. At the young age of 19, I was married and told by my husband that I was to travel from one state to another and spend Christmas with his family, while he stayed home for work. He had arranged for me to make the trip with his brother and his wife going the same way. Just a few days before my trip, we were on our way to the store when my lower back started literally camping, I felt ice cold all over my body, and my eyesight turned a shade of dark. I thought I would crawl right out of my own skin. I pleaded with my husband that I did not want to go, that something bad was going to happen. He believed me and tried to get ahold of his brother, but couldn't, who showed up on schedule anyway. I went with them as originally planned, and once at the in-laws, information was given to me that literally changed my life as I knew it, and put me in a 15 yr struggle against being consumed by that darkness I had experience at first. I consider the fact that "I was warned or at least let know ahead of time."

By the way, I wanted to ask Larry who he is to define on others what is "Alone, and content" verses loneliness.
rumitoid wrote:
Consciousness is a great mystery to scientists but recent research, including that is Quantum Mechanics, is leading to strange and wondrous speculations...and dangerous ones. Psychic energy, like magnetism and gravity, is a real force. "Getting someone's vibe" is a real possibility. Such force has measurable influence on instruments and others. This is not sci-fi or new agey. Energy cannot be destroyed. Whether this means that souls after they die can affect others has not been answered but shockingly is being honestly asked by prominent scientist in a number of fields.

Back in college in '89 (I was retread), I met a woman who had 13 years of sobriety who had a distinctly different message than I had heard up until that time with my 5 years. She now has well over forty years and has personally helped hundreds and hundreds and probably tens of thousands on the speaking tour. We became good friends and eventually roommates for three years (just roommates). One night she told me about an experience she had had in early sobriety, still naively thinking she could save the world. An alcoholic had called her from a bar all sobby and claiming she wanted to get sober: could she come and pick her up. My friend went.

Some background about my friend. She was not religious and had a real attitude, she said, toward so-called "religious people"; her parents and Christian boarding school being the primary and hurtful bad examples. She was also street smart (except in her tenderness to help other alcoholics, where she was for a time, as she described, a total sap). And she also had a New England natural skepticism. Enter the saloon.

From the moment she walked in the door she felt assaulted by "the energy." In looking for the women in distress that had called, she witnessed other entities hovering around a half dozen people in the crowded bar. Then one seemed to be sucked into a person. This was way behind anything she had ever seen or could possibly imagine. And the last thing that registered before she fled was that these entities seemed, in her brief observation, to be aware of her and shifting away from her presence.

On a much smaller scale, about five years later, there was a repeat performance. She was watching a news story about a Catholic archbishop in NM that was meant to be upbeat and for a fleeting glimpse thought she saw the shadow of a hovering entity. She called me about it, now being back in her home state. We both laughed at her "losing it." A month later that archbishop was asked to resign for "improprieties."

"Do demons exist?" I trust my friend's experience. If she says she saw them, knowing her, I am compelled to agree. The closest I have come is in just sensing the presence of evil or in seeing something in the eyes of a person that warns me of trouble.
Consciousness is a great mystery to scientists but... (show quote)

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Jan 21, 2014 03:32:18   #
NavyPTSDVET
 
Compiled From the Web:

Are Demons Real, Do Evil Spirits Exist?
God speaks of demons repeatedly in the Holy Bible as actual spiritual beings, not imaginary, allegorical, or metaphorical, but real.

For example Jesus spoke to the demons in the maniac with a Legion:
“Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.” Mk. 5:8 Holy Bible, KJV

God's Word says the demons replied:
“And all the devils besought him saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.”

Time and again we see Christ address demons, because they are individual spiritual personalities. They exist today just as in Bible days. Their reality and activity is plain to all except those blinded by Satan.

What Are Demons and Evil Spirits?
They are invisible spiritual beings created without bodies.

People raised in the materialistic west struggle over this. It is easy to comprehend when you understand that you are a spirit living in a body. (You are a tripartite creature, made in the image of God. 1 Th. 5:23, Gen. 1:26)

The real you, your spirit (eternal, Heavenly being), existed before your body was formed and will exist after your body dies and decays into dust. At death your spirit leaves your body and returns to God. Your soul leaves your body and after Judgment, spends eternity in Heaven (if you are “born again”, i.e., saved) or in Hell (if you are not born again). (Heb. 9:27a)

Your body needs both spirit and soul to be ‘alive’. Your spirit is connected to God, similar to a chord being plugged into a wall. Your spirit gets its power from God and functions in the unseen world of Heaven, but needs a vehicle to function on earth, i.e., express yourself, speak, move, and sense your environment through your body. That is why the Bible describes the body as a house, or tent, in which we humans live briefly on earth. (2 Cor 5:1; 2 Pet 1:13)

Your soul (“breath” – not air – that enables your body to stay alive) is what enables you to intuit, feel, perceive, discern, sense, and have insight.

You have two inner beings inside you, that are a type of twins (same but different), one connected to God (spirit), the other connected to creation (soul). Both are needed to correctly function on the earth. If your spirit departs, your body loses its connection to God. If your soul departs, your body loses its connection to the created. Your body contains and t***sports both spirit and soul in your earthly life.

Out of body experiences relate to the spirit. A coma more relates to the soul.

Where Do Demons Come From?
God created the Heavens and everything in them including the host of spiritual creatures called Angels, six winged Seraphs, (Is. 6:2) Cherubs, and the three Archangels.

One of the Cherubs, Lucifer, became proud in heart, wanting to be “as” God in Heaven. His sinful desires brought down God's judgment upon Lucifer and the angels in his charge. One third of the host of angels in Heaven were under the command of Lucifer, so God's judged them as though Lucifer was the head and his angels were his ‘body’. God cast Lucifer and his angels down to earth, renaming Lucifer (Morning Star) to Satan (Adversary)and renaming his angels (daemons, demons, evil spirits). (See. Is. 14:12-15, Lk.10:18, Jude 6, Rev. 12:3-9, Ez. 28:15-17)

What Are Demons Like?
They have the same rebellious evil nature as Satan their leader. They h**e God and His creation and seek to destroy it. They are wicked, vile, and utterly sinful.

People, particularly Christians, are a prized target for demons because mankind was made in God's image and originally had d******n of the Earth. Christians serve God and therefore are favored by God. Evil spirits endeavor to lead men and women into much greater sin. They most often do this by putting evil thoughts and lies into a person’s mind. The person often thinks they are thinking these thoughts, never realizing that those thoughts are being “downloaded” into them. Demons take every opportunity to gain occupancy inside a human body to perform various acts of evil. Since they are spirits, they too need a human body to use as a vehicle to function on earth.

Since God does not give them bodies, they must gain a body the best way they can. They generally deceive a sinning human into giving them occupancy inside their body.

A demon influencing a person is called demonic oppression. Once a person is controlled by demons they are described as 'demon possessed'.

What Do Demons Do?
Fallen man's sinful nature is wide open to demonic influence. Demons incite sin, r*******n, hatred and prejudice among people. They tempt mankind to sin by contradicting their own consciences, and disobeying God's Law. Demons encourage hatred, murder, theft, p***e, greed, covetousness, drunkenness, r*******n, sexual immorality (fornication, adultery), sexual perversion: homosexuality, bestiality, sodomy, and every other sin found in the world.

Satan and his demons are the source of disease and sickness, both mental and physical.

Only very serious Christians can defeat Satan and his demons. Only serious Christians have God’s Spirit living inside their bodies. It is this Spirit that defeats Satan and his demons.

Scripture Referencing Demons, Evils Spirits and Evil Ruling Spirits
1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is t***sformed into an angel of light.

Romans 12:21 - Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

1 John 3:8 - He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Luke 10:19 - Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Mark 1:21-28 - And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

Luke 10:17 - And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

1 Corinthians 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Revelation 12:9 - And the great d**gon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

1 Samuel 16:14 - But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

Isaiah 8:19-20 - And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

"And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the d**gon; and the d**gon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Heaven. And the great d**gon was cast out — that serpent of old called the Devil, and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (Rev. 12:7-9).
"beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" (Luke 10:18). The Apostles Peter and Jude mention this occurrence also very briefly, communicating only that a few of the angels did not preserve their worthiness but left the abode appointed to them. For this, they were bound with the chains of eternal darkness in the expectation of the final judgment of God over them (2 Peter 2:4, Jude 6).
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, who didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.’ Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit" (Isaiah 14:12-15).
"Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering: the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold; the workmanship of thy taborets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so; thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned; therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness. I will cast thee to the ground; I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee" (Ezekiel 28:12-17).
the Savior calls the devil "a murderer from the beginning" (John 8:44).
"For God created man to be immortal, and made him to be an image of his own eternity. Nevertheless through envy of the devil came death into the world" (Wisdom of Solomon 2:23-24).
The devil inflicted the righteous Job with terrible puss-forming sores from head to foot (Job 2:7), and he seized King Saul and tortured him (1 Samuel [1 Kings LXX] 16:14-15). The devil inspired in David the vain thought to conduct a census of his people (1 Chr. 21:1).
Also in the book of Kings (1 Kings [3 Kings LXX] 22:19-23) and in the book of the prophet Zecharaiah (Zech. 3:1-2), the evil spirit is described with these very affinities of envy, cunning, and wickedness.
Lev 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.
Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
2Ch 11:15 And he ordained him priests for the high places, and for the devils, and for the calves which he had made.
Psa 106:37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
Mat 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.
Mat 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:
Mat 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
Mat 8:31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
Mat 8:33 And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils.
Mat 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil.
Mat 9:33 And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel.

Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Mat 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Mat 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

Mat 17:18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or d******ns, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

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Jan 21, 2014 09:50:15   #
Brian Devon
 
NavyPTSDVET wrote:
Compiled From the Web:

Are Demons Real, Do Evil Spirits Exist?
God speaks of demons repeatedly in the Holy Bible as actual spiritual beings, not imaginary, allegorical, or metaphorical, but real.

For example Jesus spoke to the demons in the maniac with a Legion:
“Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.” Mk. 5:8 Holy Bible, KJV

God's Word says the demons replied:
“And all the devils besought him saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.”

Time and again we see Christ address demons, because they are individual spiritual personalities. They exist today just as in Bible days. Their reality and activity is plain to all except those blinded by Satan.

What Are Demons and Evil Spirits?
They are invisible spiritual beings created without bodies.

People raised in the materialistic west struggle over this. It is easy to comprehend when you understand that you are a spirit living in a body. (You are a tripartite creature, made in the image of God. 1 Th. 5:23, Gen. 1:26)

The real you, your spirit (eternal, Heavenly being), existed before your body was formed and will exist after your body dies and decays into dust. At death your spirit leaves your body and returns to God. Your soul leaves your body and after Judgment, spends eternity in Heaven (if you are “born again”, i.e., saved) or in Hell (if you are not born again). (Heb. 9:27a)

Your body needs both spirit and soul to be ‘alive’. Your spirit is connected to God, similar to a chord being plugged into a wall. Your spirit gets its power from God and functions in the unseen world of Heaven, but needs a vehicle to function on earth, i.e., express yourself, speak, move, and sense your environment through your body. That is why the Bible describes the body as a house, or tent, in which we humans live briefly on earth. (2 Cor 5:1; 2 Pet 1:13)

Your soul (“breath” – not air – that enables your body to stay alive) is what enables you to intuit, feel, perceive, discern, sense, and have insight.

You have two inner beings inside you, that are a type of twins (same but different), one connected to God (spirit), the other connected to creation (soul). Both are needed to correctly function on the earth. If your spirit departs, your body loses its connection to God. If your soul departs, your body loses its connection to the created. Your body contains and t***sports both spirit and soul in your earthly life.

Out of body experiences relate to the spirit. A coma more relates to the soul.

Where Do Demons Come From?
God created the Heavens and everything in them including the host of spiritual creatures called Angels, six winged Seraphs, (Is. 6:2) Cherubs, and the three Archangels.

One of the Cherubs, Lucifer, became proud in heart, wanting to be “as” God in Heaven. His sinful desires brought down God's judgment upon Lucifer and the angels in his charge. One third of the host of angels in Heaven were under the command of Lucifer, so God's judged them as though Lucifer was the head and his angels were his ‘body’. God cast Lucifer and his angels down to earth, renaming Lucifer (Morning Star) to Satan (Adversary)and renaming his angels (daemons, demons, evil spirits). (See. Is. 14:12-15, Lk.10:18, Jude 6, Rev. 12:3-9, Ez. 28:15-17)

What Are Demons Like?
They have the same rebellious evil nature as Satan their leader. They h**e God and His creation and seek to destroy it. They are wicked, vile, and utterly sinful.

People, particularly Christians, are a prized target for demons because mankind was made in God's image and originally had d******n of the Earth. Christians serve God and therefore are favored by God. Evil spirits endeavor to lead men and women into much greater sin. They most often do this by putting evil thoughts and lies into a person’s mind. The person often thinks they are thinking these thoughts, never realizing that those thoughts are being “downloaded” into them. Demons take every opportunity to gain occupancy inside a human body to perform various acts of evil. Since they are spirits, they too need a human body to use as a vehicle to function on earth.

Since God does not give them bodies, they must gain a body the best way they can. They generally deceive a sinning human into giving them occupancy inside their body.

A demon influencing a person is called demonic oppression. Once a person is controlled by demons they are described as 'demon possessed'.

What Do Demons Do?
Fallen man's sinful nature is wide open to demonic influence. Demons incite sin, r*******n, hatred and prejudice among people. They tempt mankind to sin by contradicting their own consciences, and disobeying God's Law. Demons encourage hatred, murder, theft, p***e, greed, covetousness, drunkenness, r*******n, sexual immorality (fornication, adultery), sexual perversion: homosexuality, bestiality, sodomy, and every other sin found in the world.

Satan and his demons are the source of disease and sickness, both mental and physical.

Only very serious Christians can defeat Satan and his demons. Only serious Christians have God’s Spirit living inside their bodies. It is this Spirit that defeats Satan and his demons.

Scripture Referencing Demons, Evils Spirits and Evil Ruling Spirits
1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is t***sformed into an angel of light.

Romans 12:21 - Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

1 John 3:8 - He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Luke 10:19 - Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Mark 1:21-28 - And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

Luke 10:17 - And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

1 Corinthians 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Revelation 12:9 - And the great d**gon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

1 Samuel 16:14 - But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

Isaiah 8:19-20 - And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

"And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the d**gon; and the d**gon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Heaven. And the great d**gon was cast out — that serpent of old called the Devil, and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (Rev. 12:7-9).
"beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" (Luke 10:18). The Apostles Peter and Jude mention this occurrence also very briefly, communicating only that a few of the angels did not preserve their worthiness but left the abode appointed to them. For this, they were bound with the chains of eternal darkness in the expectation of the final judgment of God over them (2 Peter 2:4, Jude 6).
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, who didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.’ Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit" (Isaiah 14:12-15).
"Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering: the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold; the workmanship of thy taborets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth, and I have set thee so; thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned; therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness. I will cast thee to the ground; I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee" (Ezekiel 28:12-17).
the Savior calls the devil "a murderer from the beginning" (John 8:44).
"For God created man to be immortal, and made him to be an image of his own eternity. Nevertheless through envy of the devil came death into the world" (Wisdom of Solomon 2:23-24).
The devil inflicted the righteous Job with terrible puss-forming sores from head to foot (Job 2:7), and he seized King Saul and tortured him (1 Samuel [1 Kings LXX] 16:14-15). The devil inspired in David the vain thought to conduct a census of his people (1 Chr. 21:1).
Also in the book of Kings (1 Kings [3 Kings LXX] 22:19-23) and in the book of the prophet Zecharaiah (Zech. 3:1-2), the evil spirit is described with these very affinities of envy, cunning, and wickedness.
Lev 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.
Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
2Ch 11:15 And he ordained him priests for the high places, and for the devils, and for the calves which he had made.
Psa 106:37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
Mat 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.
Mat 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:
Mat 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
Mat 8:31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
Mat 8:33 And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils.
Mat 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil.
Mat 9:33 And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel.

Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Mat 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Mat 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

Mat 17:18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or d******ns, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
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Where do demons come from? Good question. Dick Cheney's family is still trying to figure out that one!

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Jan 21, 2014 13:12:06   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Wow, I really applaud your comment!
There is these verses however that do state (in the spiritual understanding) that demons come into us, as we open the door for them.
Demons are energy, just like all else this world is based upon. The energy of light, as well as the cold energy of darkness.
As God states in the Beginning, there was darkness. There is darkness first- before there is light (common sense). There will always be that contrast. Jesus says he is the light of life, and the light of the world. Spiritual light to our soul, and sunlight for the world. Without either, there is only the original darkness upon men (carnal life), and upon the world. The light of both is energy. One owned only by God, the other worldly. I do hope you are following me on a spiritual level.

Demons: 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. Matthew 12:43-45.

This has two understandings: Anyone who walks through life not knowing their savior, picks up bad habits, even addictions, feelings of anger, frustration, hatred, that if not resolved generate an engery of themselves. At times that negative energy can become the driving force of that person. When that person comes into the life of their Savior Jesus Christ, the Spirit of Conviction (a good conscious) allows that person to find within themselves their part in the original problem. That becomes pardoned and a new understanding of how to avoid those problems takes place. Now the devil can only tempt without the person, rather than living within them.
Should this newly saved soul 'not' continue in the footsteps and teachings of Jesus Christ, then soon the world will engulf itself around that person once more and they become worse off then what they first were. They take in that evil energy again in anger, frustration, and hatred.

The scripture story is prophecy however, of when the Jews lived within their captivity in Babylon, due to their evil hearts.
Through the Persian King, God had them freed from their captivity to go back and 'rebuild' their temple in Jerusalem.
That is the same temple, and evil mindset of the Jewish Priests, that manipulated Jesus death by crucifixion. They murdered their own Spiritual God in the flesh of Jesus Christ.

The devil, and his evil influences have been around since the beginning of time, That age old Devil.
When a demon is cast out of a person, what do you suppose happens to that energy?? It waits until it finds an open door into the void of a person, who than influences those to take in the same.


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Brian Devon wrote:
Where do demons come from? Good question. Dick Cheney's family is still trying to figure out that one!

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Jan 21, 2014 13:26:29   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Evil has gotten a big foot-hold in America, sponsored by Government. So long as this bad imbalance continues with the peoples, and Government, America will continue to suffer the imbalance of nature that is has.

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