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Dec 25, 2013 13:44:19   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
banjojack wrote:
Terrible thing, that. Not enough money to gas up an airplane full of troops for a four hour flight, but 20 million bucks available for Michelle's non-government business vacations and junkets. Darned old Republicans. Then they gave their rich buddies so many tax breaks that their rich buddies donated more to the Democrats than Republicans. You would think the multi-millionaire Democrats in the Congress, who outnumber the multi-millionaire Republicans, woutld do something about that. Especially since they had control of the House and Senate and Presidency for two years. Oh, that's right, they were busy passing a healthcare law that most Americans don't support. It cost them the House in 2010, and is even more unpopular now. But I digress. There were troops and t***sportation available to effect a rescue. They could have been there in four hours. They were not used.
Terrible thing, that. Not enough money to gas up a... (show quote)


popppabear's post has to be one of the dumbest I've ever read. It's amazing that some folks get their shoes on the right feet.

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Dec 25, 2013 13:50:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
You started complaining only after Bush’s last “B******i”:
January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are k**led.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, k*****g 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are k**led.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, k*****g 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, k*****g two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are k**led.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate k*****g four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are k**led, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school k*****g two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are k**led.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are k**led, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weekswhen the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

There were 13 “B******i” attacks on US embassies and consulates. Twelve of them happened during the Bush administration. Where was the outrage? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/…

Government-shrinking conservatives cut $11B from the State Departments budget.http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-…

In May 2012, Ambassador Steven continued to make requests for additional security. The State Department official replied that, due to other commitments and limited resources, “unfortunately, MSD cannot support the request.” http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/up…

When State robbed Peter to pay Paul, the cons complained that Peter was being whacked. “Why didn’t Obama do something?” Missing $11B! = “other commitments and limited resources”.

The CIA’S problem is that they don’t tell anyone what they are doing. When they call for help, there are no fully-loaded planes ready for take-off. Resources have to be gathered and deployed. Pr********n is the only substitute for time. Help came from Tripoli but not in time. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/d…
Official Pentagon time-line: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/world/africa/libya-b******i-timeline

Foreign Policy published an interesting item from Billy Birdzell, a retired Marine Corps infantry officer and special operations team leader, responding to Fox's secret informant. http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/201… His conclusion:

“Even if the CIF was on ready 5 (fully armed, sitting in the aircraft with pilots at the controls) in Sigonella (the closest European base to B******i) with advanced warning of an attack but unsure of the time, and they launched at 2232 on only-in-Hollywood orders from someone other than the president, they would not have been able to do anything about Stevens and Smith's deaths, nor stopped the mortar rounds.”

Mr. Petraeus said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoiding alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/world/…

The other problem with the CIA is that they always need a cover story in case their operation is blown. So they OK a story that conceals wh**ever they want to conceal. And everyone on the team goes along with the story. That’s the entire story. End of story.

But if you are a conservative, then it’s a new story and all Obama’s fault. Why was he sleeping on the job? Why did he refuse to act in time to save the ambassador? Why did he lie about what happened. Why doesn’t he let the t***h get out? Etc., etc.

Politicians (and some journalists) get away with that crap because half of all adults have below-average IQ. And only a small fraction of the other half has any military experience. They have a cartoon view of a world in which the President is omniscient and can push a button and counter attacks arrive on time.

The Commander-in-Chief does not direct a platoon. That is done by a lieutenant, far down the line. The C-in-C gets a report concerning one of dozens of simultaneous emergencies. He orders a fix and then turns away to the next emergency in line, expecting to eventually get an update from his next-in-command. It is only in the very rare “K**l Ben Laden” operation that the C-in-C observes the progress. That’s the real world, beyond the comprehension of a conservative.

The naïve view of the conservative is fed by visions of GWB landing on the deck of the Lexington, fresh from the combat zone where he personally directed the defeat of Saddam. Conservatives live in a cartoon world. The with-hunt won’t work. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article…
You started complaining only after Bush’s last “B*... (show quote)



Well, we'll never know how conservatives would have reacted if the Administration hadn't tried to hand Americans a PC, bulls**t cover story, now will we? Maybe the LIE is the cause of all this crap!

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Dec 25, 2013 14:51:40   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Already answered elsewhere. Keep beating the dead horse if you want. The answers to your questions are in the official report that you refused to read. I provided the link. You apparently ignored it because it doesn't fit your agenda.


When will you provide the list of people who Obama promised to punish? I didn't know he had punished anyone for that night of terrorism.

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Dec 25, 2013 17:39:25   #
poppabear42
 
If you didn't know that your congress handles the money for our bills, they also determine what is to be paid, or not paid...Now this is a fact...I don't know, and I doubt that you do either, of how Mrs. Obama funds her trips.
But know this... I really do not see congress giving her s**t, because they think like you do.

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Dec 26, 2013 09:24:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Why didn’t Republicans investigate Bush’s 13 B******is?

Where was the outrage?

No hay to be made?

Because Bush has a White skin and didn’t need investigating?

Just another day at the Oval Office?

Ho hum!

You started complaining only after Bush’s last “B******i”:

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are k**led.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, k*****g 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are k**led.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, k*****g 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, k*****g two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are k**led.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate k*****g four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are k**led, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school k*****g two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are k**led.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are k**led, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weekswhen the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

There were 13 “B******i” attacks on US embassies and consulates. Twelve of them happened during the Bush administration. Where was the outrage?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/…

Government-shrinking conservatives cut $11B from the State Departments budget.http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-…

In May 2012, Ambassador Steven continued to make requests for additional security. The State Department official replied that, due to other commitments and limited resources, “unfortunately, MSD cannot support the request.”

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/up…

When State robbed Peter to pay Paul, the cons complained that Peter was being whacked. “Why didn’t Obama do something?” Missing $11B! = “other commitments and limited resources”.

The CIA’S problem is that they don’t tell anyone what they are doing. When they call for help, there are no fully-loaded planes ready for take-off. Resources have to be gathered and deployed. Pr********n is the only substitute for time. Help came from Tripoli but not in time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/d…
Official Pentagon time-line:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/world/africa/libya-b******i-timeline

Foreign Policy published an interesting item from Billy Birdzell, a retired Marine Corps infantry officer and special operations team leader, responding to Fox's secret informant. http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/201… His conclusion:

“Even if the CIF was on ready 5 (fully armed, sitting in the aircraft with pilots at the controls) in Sigonella (the closest European base to B******i) with advanced warning of an attack but unsure of the time, and they launched at 2232 on only-in-Hollywood orders from someone other than the president, they would not have been able to do anything about Stevens and Smith's deaths, nor stopped the mortar rounds.”

Mr. Petraeus said the names of groups suspected in the attack — including Al Qaeda’s franchise in North Africa and a local Libyan group, Ansar al-Shariah — were removed from the public explanation of the attack immediately after the assault to avoiding alerting the militants that American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were tracking them. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/world/…

The other problem with the CIA is that they always need a cover story in case their operation is blown. So they OK a story that conceals wh**ever they want to conceal. And everyone on the team goes along with the story. That’s the entire story. End of story.

But if you are a conservative, then it’s a new story and all Obama’s fault. Why was he sleeping on the job? Why did he refuse to act in time to save the ambassador? Why did he lie about what happened. Why doesn’t he let the t***h get out? Etc., etc.

Politicians (and some journalists) get away with that crap because half of all adults have below-average IQ. And only a small fraction of the other half has any military experience. They have a cartoon view of a world in which the President is omniscient and can push a button and counter attacks arrive on time.

The Commander-in-Chief does not direct a platoon. That is done by a lieutenant, far down the line. The C-in-C gets a report concerning one of dozens of simultaneous emergencies. He orders a fix and then turns away to the next emergency in line, expecting to eventually get an update from his next-in-command. It is only in the very rare “K**l Ben Laden” operation that the C-in-C observes the progress. That’s the real world, beyond the comprehension of a conservative.

The naïve view of the conservative is fed by visions of GWB landing on the deck of the Lexington, fresh from the combat zone where he personally directed the defeat of Saddam.

Conservatives live in a cartoon world. The with-hunt won’t work. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article…
Why didn’t Republicans investigate Bush’s 13 B****... (show quote)


Another fool who resorts to the race card - these fools are the most r****t of all - feel because Obama is black he cannot be criticized - b****s just can't stand the heat in their minds

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Dec 26, 2013 09:27:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Actually, the whole idea was something the CIA has been doing for years, offering lots of money for anti-aircraft weapons. The cost of losing a plane is so high that one heat-seeker is worth a bundle. The enemy is h**eful but not toward money.

The operation in B******i just followed up the fall of Qaddafi which released all kinds of stuff. Stevens was hot after them and took one risk too big.

For Obama, this operation was just one of a hundred going on and of little relative importance - until the attack. As ambassador, Stevens was in complete command of the operation, including pr********n and provision for contingencies.

We know as much about the attack and the defense as the CIA wants us to know. You may not like the cover story the CIA provided for Susan Rice, but nobody cares whether you like it or not. So let your imagination run wild. If you can d**g Obama into the story, it will make you feel better but it won't amount to a small hill of beans.
Actually, the whole idea was something the CIA has... (show quote)


Marvin is the American James Bond - he's in on all the most secretive stuff America has to offer - or he's an i***t that will use his overactive imagination to create a reality that excuses Obama - and largely because Obama isn't white.

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Dec 26, 2013 12:06:55   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
Actually, the whole idea was something the CIA has been doing for years, offering lots of money for anti-aircraft weapons. The cost of losing a plane is so high that one heat-seeker is worth a bundle. The enemy is h**eful but not toward money.

The operation in B******i just followed up the fall of Qaddafi which released all kinds of stuff. Stevens was hot after them and took one risk too big.

For Obama, this operation was just one of a hundred going on and of little relative importance - until the attack. As ambassador, Stevens was in complete command of the operation, including pr********n and provision for contingencies.

We know as much about the attack and the defense as the CIA wants us to know. You may not like the cover story the CIA provided for Susan Rice, but nobody cares whether you like it or not. So let your imagination run wild. If you can d**g Obama into the story, it will make you feel better but it won't amount to a small hill of beans.
Actually, the whole idea was something the CIA has... (show quote)



Maybe not now. Who knows if it will matter in the future?

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