the constitution (Page 4): While it does have possible gains, I keep thinking that PEOPLE HAVE NOT changed enough in 234 years to make the dangers it sought to prevent (Huge Omnipotent...

2004done

While it does have possible gains, I keep thinking that PEOPLE HAVE NOT changed enough in 234 years to make the dangers it sought to prevent (Huge Omnipotent Federal Government - you never know, it really could happen, despite what we are told). I would think it MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to re-apply it, than to change it.

2004done

Hopefully your second impression is a little closer to discussion of the item, instead of a rant against "middle-aged and senior white people" coming together to promote something which exists mostly in their own imagination. Are you saying that you also want this "something," or tell us what it is that exists mostly in your imagination, that you want?

catpaw wrote:

My first impression is that it sounds like a tea party type of meeting where middle-aged and senior white people rant, name call, and foam at the mouth and "want my country back" which exists mostly in their own imagination.
The 1950's is past. The country is not going to step backward. Get over it.

Ve'hoe

You are kidding??? I suppose you think also, that you have an "Open mind?"

catpaw wrote:

My first impression is that it sounds like a tea party type of meeting where middle-aged and senior white people rant, name call, and foam at the mouth and "want my country back" which exists mostly in their own imagination.
The 1950's is past. The country is not going to step backward. Get over it.

Ve'hoe

NO!!!! It is written in the constitution as a means for the states to wrest control from an out of control FED,,,, it is a safety valve the founding fathers placed in, for the day that they saw coming when a president would start legislating by p**********l fiat,,, ignoring the existent law and processes, and handing out subsidies or other high crimes and misdemeanors,,,,,,, It is the STATE legislators,,, not your federal representatives anyway,,, purposefully,,, because you cannot really expect the criminals who built this mess, (the feds) are going to turn around an do the right thing,,, as if they didn't quite realize what they were doing!?!

lpnmajor wrote:

So, in other words, it is a reason to spend my mon... (show quote)

vernon

[quote=AuntiE]If you would spend about thirty seconds, go back to page 1 of this forum, I posted an article relative to what is going to occur on December 7th.[/quote

thank you it sounds good .
does it give you pause .im worried the lib will reck us if they get control

vernon

AuntiE wrote:

If you would spend about thirty seconds, go back to page 1 of this forum, I posted an article relative to what is going to occur on December 7th.

very good how did you find it ,thanks.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

You change it with wording so you don't get back to this point again.

Now for the change, point out ways that people have not changed other than we still bleed and need water&air.

2004done wrote:

While it does have possible gains, I keep thinking that PEOPLE HAVE NOT changed enough in 234 years to make the dangers it sought to prevent (Huge Omnipotent Federal Government - you never know, it really could happen, despite what we are told). I would think it MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to re-apply it, than to change it.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

catpaw wrote:

My first impression is that it sounds like a tea party type of meeting where middle-aged and senior white people rant, name call, and foam at the mouth and "want my country back" which exists mostly in their own imagination.
The 1950's is past. The country is not going to step backward. Get over it.

ipnmajor wrote:

So, in other words, it is a reason to spend my mon... (show quote)

catpaw, your first impression is wrong--probably one of those assumptions that fit your agenda. FYI: those attending this meeting are elected members of state legislatures--both senate and assembly. So far, 30 states are sending legislators to the Dec 7th meeting.

And, for your edification on matters concerning the Constitution, Article V provides TWO procedures for amending the Constitution (or repealing amendments) In the FIRST procedure, a proposed amendment must pass by 2/3rds v**e in each house of the US Congress, followed by ratification by 3/4ths of state legislatures..

The SECOND procedure requires a state convention for proposing amendments. Legislatures of 2/3rds of the states appoint delegates to the convention who represent the states interests. Any amendment proposed and passed through this convention requires the US congress to submit the proposed amendment to 3/4ths of the state legislatures for ratification. In this second procedure, the US congress has only a ministerial role and does not have any v****g power--up or down. No executive of either the federal or state governments have any role whatsoever.

The framers put the second procedure into Article V specifically to provide the states with the power to circumvent the US congress on matters of Constitutional amendments.

Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana

Old_Gringo wrote:

I fail to see the inference. I thought he was utilizing the latter part of Ve'hoe's name.

Me too !

catpaw Loc: Bakersfield, California

Blade_Runner wrote:

catpaw, your first impression is wrong--probably o... (show quote)

What amendments need be added to the constitution that will rectify central government abuses? Far as I can tell just from the posts on this site, the major goal is denying the 14th amendment to gays, minorities, and women in the veiled religious agenda of "family values" and "morality."

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

catpaw wrote:

What amendments need be added to the constitution that will rectify central government abuses? Far as I can tell just from the posts on this site, the major goal is denying the 14th amendment to gays, minorities, and women in the veiled religious agenda of "family values" and "morality."

How about these for starters?

Quote:

An Amendment to establish term limits for members ... (show quote)

H/T ML

You'll have to do your own research into how these particular amendments would "rectify central government abuses." I could point you in the right direction, but I am doubtful about your conviction to do so.

FYI: The opinions of the posters on this site will have little or nothing to do with what might actually result from a states convention to amend the Constitution.

onegooddance Loc: Idahp but living in Ca.

This is not really a reply but a question. I was sure that yesterday I saw a topic on a letter to America from Putin. I cannot find it this morning. Can anyone help me find it again?
Thankyou

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

catpaw wrote:

My first impression is that it sounds like a tea party type of meeting where middle-aged and senior white people rant, name call, and foam at the mouth and "want my country back" which exists mostly in their own imagination.
The 1950's is past. The country is not going to step backward. Get over it.

It is quite evident you have never attended a Tea Party gathering. Your 'observations' are out of the Left Wing Propaganda Ministries, known as the MSM and Obama's disinformation media.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

onegooddance wrote:

This is not really a reply but a question. I was sure that yesterday I saw a topic on a letter to America from Putin. I cannot find it this morning. Can anyone help me find it again?
Thankyou

Scroll to the top of this page, look for "watched topics", and punch in. Scroll down the topics, 'til you get to "From Russia, with love...a letter from Putin, to all Americans". Punch in, again. You should get the thread, and its' posts.

Good luck!

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Blade_Runner wrote:

Long took his cue from Mark Levin's book The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic. A reading of this will clarify what this meeting on Dec. 7th is all about.

I am in possession of an autographed copy. I have a connection at a book store where a signing was done. They obtained the book and had it signed for me.