40 quotes of Obama about Islam and Christianity (Page 2): Islam, yes. Radical Islam we are seeing these days, no. Surely you can see them trying to form up their Caliph**e. Since you...

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

rumitoid wrote:

Most of the quotes are hardly "mind-blowing" and as far as their veracity, my search could not verify one way or another. Islam has contributed a great deal to the world; that is a simple fact of history and not an endorsement of Islam.

Islam, yes. Radical Islam we are seeing these days, no. Surely you can see them trying to form up their Caliph**e. Since you no doubt looked, how many of those did he not say?

rumitoid

oldroy wrote:

Islam, yes. Radical Islam we are seeing these days, no. Surely you can see them trying to form up their Caliph**e. Since you no doubt looked, how many of those did he not say?

Oldroy, was unable to find either way, and I am not a fool about the nature of Islam. I heard some popular defector imam talk about Islamic beliefs: scary is the word. According to him, the later writings of Mohammed are to take priority, and in those is where k**l the infidels and jihad is mentioned. Lying, he said, is perfectly acceptable, even honorable, if it advances Islam. But I do not know enough about that faith to trust what he said.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

rumitoid wrote:

Oldroy, was unable to find either way, and I am not a fool about the nature of Islam. I heard some popular defector imam talk about Islamic beliefs: scary is the word. According to him, the later writings of Mohammed are to take priority, and in those is where k**l the infidels and jihad is mentioned. Lying, he said, is perfectly acceptable, even honorable, if it advances Islam. But I do not know enough about that faith to trust what he said.

I think you can trust what he said. I have known for sometime that the last part of the Koran is what they are going by but many who want to not work on them always take what he said in the early part of the book as being peaceful. He wrote that first part in his early days when he hadn't conquered Mecca and Medina, yet and changed his tone after that had taken place. Yep, the Muslim Brotherhood has taken everything they want done from the last part of the book. It is certainly scary if you bother to read only the last third or so before you read any of the rest of it. I did it that way and never really read any of the early part because of that.

I caught someplace today that the Brotherhood stands for one thing and one only and that would be the worldwide Caliph**e. I guess more and more people will learn that Beck wasn't lying years ago. It is there and the fact that Obama has put in so many Brotherhood members of high rank into the White House scares me. They are not dummies and have been practicing a long time.

Molly

octive9 wrote:

Religions are man made. I prefer a relationship with the creator. I don't care what your religions is, you character is more important.

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octive9

oldroy wrote:

How old were you in 2009 when Obama got that Nobel before he did a damned thing? Were you still in high school or did you not know when it happened and how? How broad is the perspective of Peter King? Broad enough for you?

Peter King is one of the Republicans that has been trying to work it out, but the Tea Party just wants to shut down the government and do all they can against Obama.

I was at the first Tea Party meeting in my area. It started out with some worthy ideas and ideals, but it has gone off the rails. BTW I am old enough for medicare.

Michael Nestorick Loc: Northeastern Pa.

O'bama said Islam is part of the American story. Well I love American History and would someone out there name one person that came over on the Mayflower or signed the Declaration Of Independence. I must have fell asleep in class.

Bhmason

rumitoid wrote:

Most of the quotes are hardly "mind-blowing" and as far as their veracity, my search could not verify one way or another. Islam has contributed a great deal to the world; that is a simple fact of history and not an endorsement of Islam.

Really? What has Islam contributed a "great deal" of to anything, "including my own country?"

#3 We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world including in my own country.

- Little POS Barry

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Michael Nestorick wrote:

O'bama said Islam is part of the American story. Well I love American History and would someone out there name one person that came over on the Mayflower or signed the Declaration Of Independence. I must have fell asleep in class.

You may have fallen asleep; however, my progeny did not. There was no reference as to Islam or any part they played in our founding history.

didymusdo

Bhmason wrote:

Really? What has Islam contributed a "great deal" of to anything, "including my own country?"

#3 We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world including in my own country.

- Little POS Barry

Here is a link that will answer the question about Islamic contributions to the world. Again, a disclaimer: supplying this link is not an endorsement of Islam but just history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

didymusdo wrote:

Here is a link that will answer the question about Islamic contributions to the world. Again, a disclaimer: supplying this link is not an endorsement of Islam but just history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

There is little doubt in older times there were contributions. Not as an assailment on you, those times are long past.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

octive9 wrote:

Peter King is one of the Republicans that has been trying to work it out, but the Tea Party just wants to shut down the government and do all they can against Obama.

I was at the first Tea Party meeting in my area. It started out with some worthy ideas and ideals, but it has gone off the rails. BTW I am old enough for medicare.

Are you on Medicare or just old enough for it, old man? I was given no choice when I hit 65 and told to go to them by the insurance company.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Michael Nestorick wrote:

O'bama said Islam is part of the American story. Well I love American History and would someone out there name one person that came over on the Mayflower or signed the Declaration Of Independence. I must have fell asleep in class.

If your one person refers to one Muslim I will have to say that you didn't miss out on any part of those who came in. They were surely not Muslims.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

AuntiE wrote:

You may have fallen asleep; however, my progeny did not. There was no reference as to Islam or any part they played in our founding history.

Is there a chance that Obama has already rewritten our history as a progressive and we don't know about it?

octive9

oldroy wrote:

Are you on Medicare or just old enough for it, old man? I was given no choice when I hit 65 and told to go to them by the insurance company.

I am on Medicare Part A because it it Automatic when you reach 65. I don't use it because I don't do doctors, and I didn't sign up for Part B, which would cost about $100 per month. Forget Part D, I don't want their drugs.

Bhmason

Bhmason wrote:

Really? What has Islam contributed a "great deal" of to anything, "including my own country?"

#3 We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world including in my own country.

- Little POS Barry

didymusdo wrote:

Here is a link that will answer the question about Islamic contributions to the world. Again, a disclaimer: supplying this link is not an endorsement of Islam but just history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

Point taken on Medieval Europe, founding of America as Little POS Barry said, not so much.