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Sep 20, 2013 21:12:37   #
larry
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Ahhh, but who would decide what that "common goal" should be?


Well, would you like to give it a try? If you have an idea of what it should NOT be, turn that around and let us see what you think it SHOULD be.

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Sep 21, 2013 09:36:54   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Ahhh, but who would decide what that "common goal" should be?



I would suggest the common goal be a better society or country, but that would only lead to an argument over who decided what that "constituted". :?: Never-ending battle.

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Sep 21, 2013 11:25:07   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
slatten49 wrote:
I would suggest the common goal be a better society or country, but that would only lead to an argument over who decided what that "constituted". :?: Never-ending battle.


and that is where we are now, the liberals want a c*******t form of gov't. and the conservatives don't

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Sep 21, 2013 12:15:31   #
vernon
 
alex wrote:
and that is where we are now, the liberals want a c*******t form of gov't. and the conservatives don't


:thumbup:

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Sep 21, 2013 16:45:07   #
octive9
 
John Lennon and Rodney King would reincarnate.

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Sep 21, 2013 18:23:52   #
larry
 
slatten49 wrote:
I would suggest the common goal be a better society or country, but that would only lead to an argument over who decided what that "constituted". :?: Never-ending battle.


When this country started, the common goal was Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. What was wrong with that? Now it has been warped so badly by a certain kind of thinking, that getting back to it will take a concentrated and determined effort. Can we, and are we, willing to go for it?? Think about it.

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Sep 21, 2013 18:27:41   #
larry
 
vernon wrote:
:thumbup:


Romney: “My plan has five basic parts. One, get us energy independent, North American energy independent. That creates about four million jobs. Number two, open up more trade, particularly in Latin America; crack down on China if and when they c***t. Number three, make sure our people have the sk**ls they need to succeed and the best schools in the world. We’re far away from that now. Number four, get us to a balanced budget. Number five, champion small business.”

Now there is a track, can we agree with that? Why in the name of Liberty did we settle for the crap we are in right now. What kind of curse did we get from Oboma.

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Sep 21, 2013 20:05:02   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
larry wrote:
When this country started, the common goal was Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. What was wrong with that? Now it has been warped so badly by a certain kind of thinking, that getting back to it will take a concentrated and determined effort. Can we, and are we, willing to go for it?? Think about it.


there you go again, accusing liberals of thinking

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Sep 21, 2013 22:49:34   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
ginnyt wrote:
Do you know how many people have made this recommendation throughout the thousands of years? The notion predates Jesus Christ and for every generation the same idea has been posed to humankind. You would think that after all these years, it would be possible. But, you are not recognizing human nature.

We are a quarrelsome lot. War for the sake of iden­tity and estab­lishing bound­aries for this iden­tity (stone age/&#8203;tribal wars, me vs. you, we vs. them), and the more modern one; war in order to oblit­erate someone/&#8203;something (Christian vs. Muslims, Muslims vs. Jews, Stalin vs. people of the Soviet Union, Hutus vs. Tutsis, most soci­eties in the world vs. drugs/&#8203;terrorism/&#8203;extremism, etc). How do I know this, well in every language there is a word for war. For a word to be of value, it must paint a picture in someone else's mind. But, did you know that there is no word that is as clearly defined for peace?
Do you know how many people have made this recomme... (show quote)


This is not a recommendation, it is simply a what if.

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Sep 21, 2013 23:25:40   #
Artemis
 
vernon wrote:
i think hitler said something along that line and see what it got the germans


Incredible. Hitler wanted to create one ethnic race, Lone ghost is referirng to one race...the Human Race

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Sep 21, 2013 23:47:45   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
maelstrom wrote:
Incredible. Hitler wanted to create one ethnic race, Lone ghost is referirng to one race...the Human Race


Precisely, no agenda, no politics, no r****m, absolutely no conflict whatsoever. We are all humans, we all basically want the same thing do we not? To live a safe, productive life, help others to do the same, and be happy. What exactly is it that is preventing that?

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Sep 22, 2013 02:00:41   #
Artemis
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Precisely, no agenda, no politics, no r****m, absolutely no conflict whatsoever. We are all humans, we all basically want the same thing do we not? To live a safe, productive life, help others to do the same, and be happy. What exactly is it that is preventing that?


In one tiny word ...ego, ego with money is ego squared to the ? power which is what it ends up to be about, power. Once you have so much money what else is there to pursue? The people in power help manipulate and antagonize people against other. This part was a tactic from Hitler, he collected people together to h**e an entire race by blaming them for the economic hardships the people were experiencing at that time. We are seeing it again today.Especially when I read on these posts how people h**e entire party's. They've combined parties together,like liberals, c*******ts,democrats,into one group. These use to be separate parties. It is simpler for them to have just two parties,because it is so easy to pin us against each other in this way.It also takes our eye off the real ball.

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Sep 22, 2013 06:31:04   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Precisely, no agenda, no politics, no r****m, absolutely no conflict whatsoever. We are all humans, we all basically want the same thing do we not? To live a safe, productive life, help others to do the same, and be happy. What exactly is it that is preventing that?



Unfortunately, the very human tendencies towards power and control. Agendas are almost always driven by one or the other, or both.

Financial power and control, too often. :thumbdown:

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