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This should end the debate as to whether or not the Bible endorses S***ery
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Oct 17, 2015 21:03:59   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is probably the incorrect place to post this comment; however, Aunti is, again, distraught. Nary a response did you provide to my commentary. Was the video unacceptable? :?: :( :-( :cry: :roll:

I found the video, once again, beautiful. :thumbup:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:10:46   #
SamDawkins
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
The problems, once again, lay with different t***slations of the Bible and the new contemporary redefinition of "s***ery" as an all inclusion of forms of ancient labor: "forced labor from prisoners of war," "indentured servatide for unpaid debts" and "restitution for stolen property" whereas in ancient days of barter, TIME = MONEY.

There has been a concerted effort of the Progressive Socilist to mangle the message in the 1960s, rewriting the Bible, of which our Declaration of Independence and Constitution was founded, to nullify the Natural Law it was founded upon: Man may rule over animals, but Man may not rule over man, only God may rule over man. as laid out in the 3rd Book of Moses in Leviticul regarding the Jubilie.
The King James Version is far closer to the orginal text of the Septaguant t***slation of the Old Testiment, 180 degrees around from the NIV t***slation of 1960.

http://biblehub.com/exodus/22-1.htm
EXODUS 22:1 NIV t***slation:
"Whoever steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it must pay back five head of cattle for the ox and four sheep for the sheep."

EXODUS 22: 1 KJV
If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and k**l it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.

EXODUS 22: 2 NIV T***slation
"If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;

EXODUS 22: 2 KJV T***slation
If a thief be found breaking up [in], and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.

EXODUS 22: 3 NIV T***slation
but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed. "Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft.

EXODUS 22: 3 KJV T***slation
If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.

The clue here is the word "restitution" which was repaid in time, indentured servatude, if the goods themselves could not be returned.

We have banks and credit today, or prisons. Restitution (work) is certainly more just than prison with a golf course and big screne TV and the victim is left with the loss, Yes?

Give Huckabee a break.
The problems, once again, lay with different t***s... (show quote)




He gets no break from me. Unless of course he recants his statement. and apologizes .



As for The Declaration of Independence.
The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.

One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God.

The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

Finally, the Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

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Oct 17, 2015 21:24:03   #
SamDawkins
 
padremike wrote:
Fair enough Sam, now go to work and use your search engine get on line and find out to your own satisfaction and curiosity what Jewish s***ery was all about. You seemed quick enough to condemn based solely on your emotions without any knowledge of the issue. Afterwards, you will be ready for "a civil discussion."



It is still s***ery regardless of the brand name.

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Oct 17, 2015 21:26:52   #
SamDawkins
 
slatten49 wrote:
I found the video, once again, beautiful. :thumbup:



Help me out Slatten49 ! the last thing i want to do is to cause AunitE any distress

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Oct 17, 2015 21:34:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
Help me out Slatten49 ! the last thing i want to do is to cause AunitE any distress

Sam, the first line of AuntiE's first post on this thread is a link to 'The Lord's Prayer,' by Andrea Bocelli. Believer or not, it is a masterful rendition of a beautiful song. :wink: Enjoy :!:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:35:53   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
I found the video, once again, beautiful. :thumbup:


It is simply an incomparable version.

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Oct 17, 2015 21:37:01   #
SamDawkins
 
slatten49 wrote:
The first line of AuntiE's first post on this thread is a link to 'The Lord's Prayer,' by Andrea Bocelli. Believer or not, it is a masterful rendition of a beautiful song. :wink: Enjoy :!:


I feel like such a Homer (as in Simpson) :x

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Oct 17, 2015 21:38:33   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
I feel like such a Homer (as in Simpson) :x

In an ironic twist, AuntiE is somewhat like Marge Simpson. :lol:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:40:34   #
SamDawkins
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEplqV0scyo


Sent from my iPad



Truly Beautiful AuntiE. Just like you

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:40:46   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
SamDawkins wrote:
Help me out Slatten49 ! the last thing i want to do is to cause AunitE any distress



http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEplqV0scyo


Sent from my iPad

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Oct 17, 2015 21:41:07   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sam, the first line of AuntiE's first post on this thread is a link to 'The Lord's Prayer,' by Andrea Bocelli. Believer or not, it is a masterful rendition of a beautiful song. :wink: Enjoy :!:


Yes, it is a spellbinding rendition. Close your eyes and listen with your heart, and you will feel the glory of God all around you.

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Oct 17, 2015 21:42:40   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
In an ironic twist, AuntiE is somewhat like Marge Simpson. :lol:


:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: You know I am not current on TV, unless it is my man on Tuesday. :shock: :oops:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:44:39   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: You know I am not current on TV, unless it is my man on Tuesday. :shock: :oops:

Most likely, for my sake, that is just as well. :oops: Do no research, Dear One. :roll: :lol:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:45:46   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
Truly Beautiful AuntiE. Just like you

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Come on, Sam, let's not get carried away. :mrgreen:

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Oct 17, 2015 21:48:27   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/10/mike-huckabee-endorses-biblical-s***ery-for-criminals/


October 15, 2015 by Michael Stone Leave a Comment
Sweet baby Jesus: Mike Huckabee says poor people convicted of nonviolent crimes should be sold into s***ery, because the Bible.
The former Arkansas Governor and Republican p**********l candidate endorsed “biblical” s***ery over the modern prison system on Wednesday’s edition of “Mickelson in the Morning,” a leading conservative Iowa radio program.
ThinkProgress reports.
Host Jan Mickelson began by bemoaning that the “criminal justice system has been taken over by progressives.” In order to fight back, he argued, conservatives should look to the biblical Book of Exodus. “It says, if a person steals, they have to pay it back two-fold, four-fold,” Mickelson explained. “If they don’t have anything, we’re supposed to take them down and sell them.”
Mickelson went on to argue why jails, which he claimed are a “pagan invention,” are inferior to s***ery: “We indenture them and they have to spend their time not sitting on their stump in a jail cell, they’re supposed to be working off the debt.”
“Wouldn’t that be a better choice?” the host asked.
“Well, it really would be… Sometimes the best way to deal with a nonviolent criminal behavior is what you just suggested.”
That’s right, Huckabee says Biblical s***ery is preferable to the contemporary criminal justice system. ThinkProgress notes:
Huckabee’s comments … appear to be the first time in modern history that a credible p**********l candidate has joined the fringe call to reinstate s***ery.
It is no secret that Huckabee is a Christian extremist. In the recent past Huckabee promised that if elected president he would fight the “secular theocracy” that is supposedly destroying Christian liberty in America; made the false claim that pastors would face civil and criminal penalties if they refused to perform same-sex marriage; and said if elected president he would ignore the Supreme Court ruling on marriage e******y because the Supreme Court is not the “Supreme Being.”



Mike Huckabee says that prison reform should be centered around s***ery
October 16, 2015 by Dan Arel

Republican p**********l candidate Mike Huckabee stopped by the conservative talk radio program Mickelson in the Morning when the host, Jan Mickelson started to complained that the “criminal justice system has been taken over by progressives.”
According to Think Progress, Mickelson put forth a plan to the former governor, suggesting that biblical s***ery could be the answer.
In order to fight back, he argued, conservatives should look to the biblical Book of Exodus. “It says, if a person steals, they have to pay it back two-fold, four-fold,” Mickelson explained. “If they don’t have anything, we’re supposed to take them down and sell them.”
Mickelson went on to argue why jails, which he claimed are a “pagan invention,” are inferior to s***ery: “We indenture them and they have to spend their time not sitting on their stump in a jail cell, they’re supposed to be working off the debt.”
“Wouldn’t that be a better choice?” the host asked.
And when Mike Huckabee, a man campaigning to run the United States and uphold the Constitution was asked if selling poor criminals into s***ery was a better choice, he said:
“Well, it really would be… Sometimes the best way to deal with a nonviolent criminal behavior is what you just suggested.”
That’s right, Huckabee said yes.
Think Progress noted that this may very well be the first time ” in modern history that a credible p**********l candidate has joined the fringe call to reinstate s***ery.”
This is Christian extremism at its worst. Actually suggesting that s***ery be reinstated because it falls in line with biblical law is a glowing example of the poison that is religious belief and just why it is so important the US remain secular and free from the hands of such draconian thinking.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhum... (show quote)

You sir are a f**e!!!!

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