rumitoid

Oil and water?

It may seem strange what I am going to say next, given I have made my positions on a number of issues quite plain (though not strictly party-line, as I was labeled): for the Christian at least, religion and politics don't mix--and I am a Christian.

Hypocritical? Easy to take it that way. Nearly everything we do, think and say will have political implications or consequences; this seems unavoidable. Scientists who are earnest in their pursuit of knowledge will almost assuredly make some political waves, take the question about g****l w*****g (now termed "c*****e c****e"). The key word there is "earnest," those who have integrity and follow the scientific method where it leads them, not them lead it.

To me, Jesus was not political in the least, whereas Mohammed seems thoroughly steeped in it. A Muslim may disagree or be proud of that fact. Sorry, Off topic. Ah, but many find Jesus, more inside than outside of Christianity, as the ultimate politician (though statesman in this case is a better term). The definition can be broad or narrow, or ruled by mood or cause or opportunity.

The views I have expressed at 1PP, though my personality may have at times damaged the clarity and purpose, mostly conform to the Anabaptist beliefs, which those familiar with that denomination know are the Amish, Mennonites, and Quakers. I am none of those, yet if any of those fellowships might post here, liberal would be the indelible stamp; the same one on my forehead. (Maybe even "cowards" and "wimps.")


I think it was ginnyt that said something to the effect that I don't comment, I publish. Funny. I will be done shortly.

There is a consistently to all my comments (to me): an attempt to disarm entrenched d******eness, whether right or left. I am very disappointed with Obama and do not like most of the policies pushed by Democrats. But I am labeled by some as a "flaming libertard." I am insulted for being a lockstep socialist or c****e, blindly following the Alinsky handbook (a name I did not know till I got here). An Obama-lover. By my religious beliefs, I will appear a Lefty, though I see it as following apolitical t***h. That sounds like hubris.

And it is. Engagement here over certain questions has led to strife and bad feelings. Though I may have see and thought of myself as being above the fray and without a political agenda, I was blind. My deepest amends. I had deluded myself.

This is a great read fro Christians but may be interesting to others: http://www.lifehouse.org/tracts/thechristianandpolitics.htm

Now it is open for a free all discussion on how you feel the two fit or not.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I've looked over your link, and try not to get upset over the gross misinterpretation of Scripture as it is today. In the scripture you mentioned, the apostle paul is merely calling himself a Soldier in Christ. The original Apostles had to give up the "affairs of men" like being a husband, father, local store owner (example), in order to spread the Lord's Gospel out in the four corners of the earth. Doing and fulfilling their callings and anointings as an apostle was all they did. There wasn't suppose to be any outside distractions. The Lord told them in scripture that their families, if they had one, would be blessed and provided for as they did his work as a Soldier in Christ. To get the Gospels spread out like they did, into an angry and dictative world, they had to be Soldier's in Christ.

rumitoid

And so do we.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

Being done~

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

Loki Loc: Georgia

This dovetails nicely with a reply I made to your post regarding McCarthyism, Bachmann, Palin, Cruz and others, so I may repeat myself. Once more, my queries are of the curious, rather than the truculent variety. Your statement "I am a Christian," is unequivocal in nature, and yet in your other post I referenced, you mentioned s***ery as a blot on our nation's character. You neglected to mention how you reconcile that statement with the fact that s***ery is both accepted and condoned in the Bible, (both Old and New Testament), and only condemned when it involved cruelty or mistreatment of s***es. In that same post, you referenced Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and Ted Cruz as dangerous to our country, but gave a pass to people like Barbara Boxer, Bob Menendez, and Chuck Schumer, who advocate acceptance and legalization of things like a******n and homosexuality, condemned in the Scripture. Ted Cruz opposed Obamacare, and amnesty for i******s. These two matters are inextricably interwoven. You cannot effectively discuss one separately from the other. Ditto for entitlement reform. Proverbs describes grandchildren as a crown to an old man's head, yet the people you refrain from condemning are responsible, in part, for a 17 trillion dollar debt that will have our great great grandchildren in hock up to their yet-to-be-born ears. You claim to be opposed to Liberal policies, yet you mostly (not always) seem to end up defending them while decrying them. Must be a Jesuit thing, no insult intended. My curiosity has been piqued by some of these apparent (at least to my jaundiced view) discrepancies. Care to elaborate?

Mrphilharmonic

If we obeyed our Lord's teaching in the Bible, we wouldn't NEED politics or politicians. Oil and Water? Try Glycerin and Potassium Pomangomate!

Inyourface Loc: East Coast

As usual in America the folks broadcasting their piety the loudest are among the most bigotted,greedy,selfish ,human beings on the face of the earth. I challenge anyone to list the names here claimimg to be Christian and go back and read some of their previous posts on this site. They reek of r****m,homophobia,and xenophobia. Especially check out ginnyt,and the newbie ,Rhonda. 1st degree hypocrits.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I have never made any claims to piety. Unlike you, I have posted many times and never once mentioned race. I have been unable to find a single one of your posts that doesn't have some sort of racially biased remark or ten in it, yet you accuse others of this without a shred of evidence, other than your own bigoted stupidity.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

The sharks awake, obviously hungry! I can name one source of pure evil, you.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

... Why make such a challenge? Christians never claim to be perfect, in fact it is against their religion to do so. They actually (believe it or not) think they deserve to got to hell, every one of them.

Do you believe you deserve to go to hell?

Inyourface Loc: East Coast

Somehow when I am coherent I can't get my brain around believing in stories about heaven and hell ,made up by old white guys who k**led anyone who didn't buy into their version of reality.

Loki Loc: Georgia

When do you expect said coherence to make an appearance? It has been glaringly absent so far.

oz89 Loc: California

Because of the fact that every person reads and interprets the bible in there own way we do need a neutral body to help keep some sort of calm, and remember in this world people follow way more than one religious teaching.

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

You put up a lot of words, but to me it's much simpler.

Government should not meddle in religion

Religion should not meddle in government