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Sep 13, 2013 02:38:30   #
dolly_t
 
Like I said before ALL FOR MONEY AND NOTORIETY
Jokes on his part.(commedians make good money)
Think like this.I know who I am and no matter what anyone says I am me.Put me down just makes me stronger.

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Sep 13, 2013 03:31:17   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Azkid5011 wrote:
Koch brothers on the TEA PARTY fanatics and most of the republican congress. They true grass root people to jump in the press hold the interviews to show I just the middle class working and just happen to be white and I love everybody who agrees with me. Behind the scenes the Kock brothers are donating millions of dollars in the name of patriot tea party.. and dare you to call them r****t. 1st amendment allows them to associate with KKK, Whitebrother hood, etc.. because they are americans. One thing we know for sure, If this country gets destroyed then it will be from within..all the ignorant will gain power and destroy this great nation under the name I am patriot grass root person so therefore what ever you tell me negative about my government I will belive it. because the Kock brothers , Shawn Hannity, Glen beck , Russ Limbaugh they have all the answers. IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THEM YOU ARE IRRRELAVANCE
ST GO OUT TO THE PASTURE AND DIE...
Koch brothers on the TEA PARTY fanatics and most o... (show quote)


WELLA ! THE TEA PARTY NARRATIVE IN A NUTSHELL ! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 13, 2013 06:28:55   #
4vbs2
 
Do your research. Hawaii has released a copy of Obama's birth certificate. He WAS born in Hawaii. You may not like him, but don't listen to those who fabricate lies to generate hatred. You will be better served to support those candidates that you agree with and V**E!

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Sep 13, 2013 06:47:18   #
Gatekeepersboss
 
The Tea Party owns and rules the Republican party.
The Republican party knows who their master is and everyone else should just let it go.
The Tea Party RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sep 13, 2013 07:03:06   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Gatekeepersboss wrote:
The Tea Party owns and rules the Republican party.
The Republican party knows who their master is and everyone else should just let it go.
The Tea Party RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!


yes they do ......they rule the sheethouse .

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Sep 13, 2013 09:49:29   #
vernon
 
Lou wrote:
No , Rush is not a r****t " because Lou doesn't like the t***h " Rush IS A R****T because of the things he has said and the views he has expressed .

So in your mind if someone recognizes a r****t and outs him , that makes the one who recognizes the r****t ......a r****t ?

You do realize that your statement is absurd and pathetic ?


the absurd comment was made by you.you libs just cant stand someone who disagrees with your broken philosophy.you kind have destroyed this economy.

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Sep 13, 2013 09:53:49   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
larry wrote:
Wait a minute, a payroll tax is what I pay for receiving wages because I am selling my labor. A sales tax is just plain robbery on the buyer. He is paying for a service. the guy getting paid should pay the tax, not the guy paying. Of course it matters how my bucket is emptied. Evaporation of my bucket is what I pay for SELLING my service. The water that I lose from condensation is robbery. I am not selling anything so why must I put up for this loss. I agree that a National Sales tax is good, if it is on the SELLER, and not the buyer. Why should a person that is buying anything pay an additional tax. Let the guy that is selling the stuff pay the tax on His income. Even if you think he is just a collector of tax money, he is still selling his service, hence an income, hence a tax on income. If you think anyone will go for that, you are mistaken, People will begin bartering their goods to avoid it completely. Money is the problem, as soon as you put a value on consumption, consumption will decrease. That's what a sales tax does, it reduces consumption.
Wait a minute, a payroll tax is what I pay for rec... (show quote)


Fine. Lets do it then. A couple of points though. Any tax on business is an additional cost of doing busines. Those costs get passed on to the consumer anyway in the form of prices. We would pay our taxes at the cash register regardless as opposed to having it taken out of our paychecks. We pay federal, state and local taxes on every gallon of gasoline we buy. They are part of the price per gallon. Occasionally prices get to the point where people say "screw it! I'm just gonna stay home today!". If enough folks do that demand/consumption goes down. When that happens so do prices. We may differ a little on our perception of how this could work, but the important part is that it could work.

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Sep 13, 2013 10:06:04   #
vernon
 
Lou wrote:
No , Rush is not a r****t " because Lou doesn't like the t***h " Rush IS A R****T because of the things he has said and the views he has expressed .

So in your mind if someone recognizes a r****t and outs him , that makes the one who recognizes the r****t ......a r****t ?

You do realize that your statement is absurd and pathetic ?


tell me what he has said that is r****t.dont tell me some crap said by a demorat politican ,you dont listen to rush ,so i have to believe you dont know what your talking about

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Sep 13, 2013 12:26:29   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
vernon wrote:
the absurd comment was made by you.you libs just cant stand someone who disagrees with your broken philosophy.you kind have destroyed this economy.


Wrong dimbulb , I despise an overt r****t who shoots then hides behind excuses that only i***ts like you would believe .

Now if your 5 second attention span allows you , go to the previous page where I listed JUST SOME of the r****t remarks made by your conservative/teabag god BLIMPY .




And what does the economy have to do with this discussion you moron ?

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Sep 13, 2013 12:40:52   #
larry
 
BigMike wrote:
Fine. Lets do it then. A couple of points though. Any tax on business is an additional cost of doing busines. Those costs get passed on to the consumer anyway in the form of prices. We would pay our taxes at the cash register regardless as opposed to having it taken out of our paychecks. We pay federal, state and local taxes on every gallon of gasoline we buy. They are part of the price per gallon. Occasionally prices get to the point where people say "screw it! I'm just gonna stay home today!". If enough folks do that demand/consumption goes down. When that happens so do prices. We may differ a little on our perception of how this could work, but the important part is that it could work.
Fine. Lets do it then. A couple of points though. ... (show quote)


You are right about the fact that we will pay a tax no matter what we do, but, If the guy selling adds the tax into his prices, it is hidden from us, and not so irritating. He pays taxes on only his profit, we pay taxes on the artificial price he puts on his goods. Who is really winning here? No matter how you look at it you are being ripped off every time you BUY something, and the guy selling it gets a hand out. WHY?

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Sep 13, 2013 12:46:30   #
VladimirPee
 
I looked at your list of supposed r****t remarks and found nothing r****t about them. I bet you are even pissed your toothpaste is white.


Lou wrote:
Wrong dimbulb , I despise an overt r****t who shoots then hides behind excuses that only i***ts like you would believe .

Now if your 5 second attention span allows you , go to the previous page where I listed JUST SOME of the r****t remarks made by your conservative/teabag god BLIMPY .




And what does the economy have to do with this discussion you moron ?

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Sep 13, 2013 13:02:33   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
DennisDee wrote:
I looked at your list of supposed r****t remarks and found nothing r****t about them. I bet you are even pissed your toothpaste is white.


You are a jerk , as suspected .

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Sep 13, 2013 13:18:57   #
Yankee Clipper
 
larry wrote:
Wait a minute, a payroll tax is what I pay for receiving wages because I am selling my labor. A sales tax is just plain robbery on the buyer. He is paying for a service. the guy getting paid should pay the tax, not the guy paying. Of course it matters how my bucket is emptied. Evaporation of my bucket is what I pay for SELLING my service. The water that I lose from condensation is robbery. I am not selling anything so why must I put up for this loss. I agree that a National Sales tax is good, if it is on the SELLER, and not the buyer. Why should a person that is buying anything pay an additional tax. Let the guy that is selling the stuff pay the tax on His income. Even if you think he is just a collector of tax money, he is still selling his service, hence an income, hence a tax on income. If you think anyone will go for that, you are mistaken, People will begin bartering their goods to avoid it completely. Money is the problem, as soon as you put a value on consumption, consumption will decrease. That's what a sales tax does, it reduces consumption.
Wait a minute, a payroll tax is what I pay for rec... (show quote)


Here's, I think a simple example. Say you have a product that sells for $1.00 that includes your profit. The government(s) decide the total tax to be paid to them on that product should be 20%. If I were the company selling the product, I would mark it up 25% or charge $1.25 to cover the sales tax. Twenty five percent is equal to the cost of the 20% sales tax demanded by the government and the consumer will still pay for it in the end.

Use you calculator and take a $1.00 and mark it up 25% which comes to $1.25. Now take that $1.25 and take the 20% away from that total and you are back at the original $1.00.

That's how it will work, the consumer will still pay the tax even though it will be hidden in the retail cost of the widget. The cost of doing business will always be passed on or the widget manufacturer cannot stay in business for long.

The other thing with either a national sales tax or a flat tax, watch out that it does not become a VAT tax (value added tax) like the Europeans use. That's an added tax every time a product changes hands until it reaches the end consumer where it is again taxed. I think the government is eyeballing such a taxing scheme if they replace our existing tax code with a "fair tax" wh**ever that is. All income and sales taxes are legalized theft.

Do a search on Value added taxes.

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Sep 13, 2013 13:52:03   #
VladimirPee
 
I agree the tax the company pays would be included into their costs and MARKED UP as everything else. So the tax would be even higher

Yankee Clipper wrote:
Here's, I think a simple example. Say you have a product that sells for $1.00 that includes your profit. The government(s) decide the total tax to be paid to them on that product should be 20%. If I were the company selling the product, I would mark it up 25% or charge $1.25 to cover the sales tax. Twenty five percent is equal to the cost of the 20% sales tax demanded by the government and the consumer will still pay for it in the end.

Use you calculator and take a $1.00 and mark it up 25% which comes to $1.25. Now take that $1.25 and take the 20% away from that total and you are back at the original $1.00.

That's how it will work, the consumer will still pay the tax even though it will be hidden in the retail cost of the widget. The cost of doing business will always be passed on or the widget manufacturer cannot stay in business for long.

The other thing with either a national sales tax or a flat tax, watch out that it does not become a VAT tax (value added tax) like the Europeans use. That's an added tax every time a product changes hands until it reaches the end consumer where it is again taxed. I think the government is eyeballing such a taxing scheme if they replace our existing tax code with a "fair tax" wh**ever that is. All income and sales taxes are legalized theft.

Do a search on Value added taxes.
b Here's, I think a simple example. Say you have... (show quote)

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Sep 13, 2013 15:45:04   #
vernon
 
[quote=Lou]Wrong dimbulb , I despise an overt r****t who shoots then hides behind excuses that only i***ts like you would believe .

Now if your 5 second attention span allows you , go to the previous page where I listed JUST SOME of the r****t remarks made by your conservative/teabag god BLIMPY .



dam you hurt me with all your name calling and i didnt see anything r****t.now shut your mpouth and listen to him for a week and find out what is going on .

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