Azkid5011

reading this forum on health is like reading what a bunch of idoits have to say about Obama Care. You hear about Doctors quitting and retiring. Bull Crap.. I talked to several Doctors and even though they are not crazy about AFCA the doctors who went into medicine to heal people will still be there. Those who went into medicine for the money, well GOOD RIDDANCE. I don't want a doctor working on me just because of the money. bottom line how many doctors can afford to retire. how many did u c retire before. Most doctors are working well into their 70's because they cant afford to retire. Stop hating and let some logical thought run through those "P" BRAINS. Additionally I read the worst things about the health care and they are all hypothetical , none are based on facts, all are fear tactics. Again how about using some logic and lastly, congress not including themselves in AFCA . Let c, when was the last time congress put themselves under any program that applies to the working stiff. Ohhhh "NEVER" why is this so different. Why was congress able to buy stock in company they new their legislation was going to impact. 'every heard of insider trading. Congress has not and never will place themselves under any working stiff program unless it will benefit them. WAKE UP STOP HATING

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Great for you but did you bother to ask how many will retire early? According to three surveys I've read 62% of doctors plan to RETIRE in the next one to three years because of the paperwork this will cause.

Another problem, this trades insured for uninsured, roughly 50,000 more will be uninsured.

Another problem, take money from take was paid by citizens for their future use and throw it in Obama care, government stealing.

Azkid5011

hey bmac32, you stated there will be 62% of doctors retiring, it would be my honor to fact check those surveys. what are the names of the organization or web links these surveys are on.. It always help to validate numbers.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Web page link can't be t***sferred with Android and the page name was long long. It was hand type from the page, I thought that number was high so I check another page and the same came up. Numbers can be reworked to suit the purpose but even if it's 50% and you added more customers that's going to be long wait times just for an appointment.

eden

My Wife was a GP (General Practitioner) Her chief complaint about her job was the hour or so a day she would sometimes spend argueing with an Insurance clerk (educational level just above high school) about whether or not a procedure or medication was medically indicated in order for the insurance to pay for it. This is an example of a medical system run by a for profit corporation with little or no constraint or regulation and no competition.

eden

Hmmm....Let me gently point out that referring to the President as a "Kenyan c****e muslim Prez" is just me having a little fun at the expense of the fringe right by paraphrasing a common non-sequitur. What you fail to understand I think is that a single payer public option would be only for those that cannot afford their own private health insurance from one of the big Insurers. A public option would keep pressure on the big Insurers to be more competitive and less arbitrary in their denial of benefits. It's all about striking a balance between the public and private sector, a concept that benefits everybody.

eden

This is nonsense. Did you hear that ninety percent of doctors who tried Camels went back to women? Statements made by doctors like this ( a particularly cantankerously diverse group) is just scalpel rattling to scare someone. They have mortgages and kids to put through college like everyone else.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Yeah, strike a balance, free or little cost for 100,000 while you raise rates threw the roof on 300 million, yeah that's real balance.

eden

Thank you for sharing that but you offer no evidence? (you know that pesky little thing people ask for in a serious debate...)

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Sorry Android does not cut and paste so I have two or three web sites open. I dd make a typo not 100,000 but 1,000,000. Total insured will drop roughly 150,000 and it will be a trade for those insured now with those who have none. Not a win no matter how you look at it.

Unions are asking to double dip on this and the WH told there was no way they could do this. With union hours being cut along with their health care ObamaCare is about half of their coverage now.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

What about those whose mortgage is paid and their kids are through college? I was 53 and my wife 51 when we reached that plateau. Many physicians fall into the same category.

eden

My point is that younger doctors (majority are under 50) are not going to quit their profession at the rate of 62% because their income is c*********d.
What will they do, become greeters at Walmart? Is that the threat? :-D

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Not necessarily, but they will seek other vocations, as mine is seriously contemplating.

Who knows, perhaps some will enter politics where all the gravy is. They don't have to work there either. Many already have, by the way. Comparatively young ones at that.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Yes but the babyboomers are retiring at 10,000 a day and that is many doctors included. Average day is 12-14 hours and average burn out age is 55. Average age after all schooling is 29 so that gives then 26 years of in the field. It's a numbers game of demand and supply. Roughly 1 in 10,000 go into that line of work.