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Jul 6, 2015 19:58:52   #
solarkin
 
BearK wrote:
I believe you are right, Oliver. There will beblood in the street, freedom will be no more. Too ba, many will not be prepared. It is coming.


I hope you are wrong, at least as far as the timing goes.
Isn't it a bit grandiose to assume you understand God, and his plans?
Be prepared to wait with baited breath for another 1000 years.

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Jul 6, 2015 20:31:23   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
solarkin wrote:
I hope you are wrong, at least as far as the timing goes.
Isn't it a bit grandiose to assume you understand God, and his plans?
Be prepared to wait with baited breath for another 1000 years.


Jesus said, "This generation will not pass away until all these things happen." One of the 'things' He was referring to, was the Temple being rebuilt. If you check into it the Jews are prepared to rebuild, but some things with the Palestinians has to be corrected first.

My understanding about the 'generation' is the return of the Jews to form Israel. It is the ONLY country that went out of existence and then returned to once again be a country. The generation Jesus is referring to (according to what I've read) is the return of the Jews to Israel. A generation is considered 70-80 years, Israel returned in 1948 - that would make it 2018 or 2028.

And, if you think Southerners will just let the government waltz in here and take their guns - think again.

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Jul 7, 2015 00:23:40   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
BearK wrote:
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass away until all these things happen." One of the 'things' He was referring to, was the Temple being rebuilt. If you check into it the Jews are prepared to rebuild, but some things with the Palestinians has to be corrected first.

My understanding about the 'generation' is the return of the Jews to form Israel. It is the ONLY country that went out of existence and then returned to once again be a country. The generation Jesus is referring to (according to what I've read) is the return of the Jews to Israel. A generation is considered 70-80 years, Israel returned in 1948 - that would make it 2018 or 2028.

And, if you think Southerners will just let the government waltz in here and take their guns - think again.
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass aw... (show quote)


You got that right Beark. We don't cotton to folks trying to take our guns. I'll be glad when Our Lord comes to take us home.

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Jul 7, 2015 03:05:59   #
fiatlux
 
Oliver wrote:
It should come as no surprise that:
1. The moral climate of our country (and world-wide) is being secularized and socialized at an ever increasing exponential rate.
2. The scriptural moral absolutes are country was once founded upon no longer are cherished or believed.
3. The nations are escalating their r*******n against the Lord of heaven.
4. "The kings [rulers/presidents, judges etc.] of the earth are setting themselves and taking council together against the Lord's Anointed proclaiming [in unison], 'Let us break His bands of [authority] asunder and cast away His cords [of morality] from us.'" Psalm 2:2-3
5. As such, the persecution of everything Christian will continue escalating until everyone either acquiesces, is imprisoned [and or k**led], given lengthy and heavy fines, or have gone underground.

Due to the gradual but sure realization of the above, many concerned Christians are beginning to ask, "What are we to do when such persecution comes our way?" Is there anywhere in this world one can go to escape such methodical and deliberate persecutions? Many on the internet are offering suggestions of various and sundry countries and locals. But however peaceful, tranquil, and isolated a place may currently be, this is no guarantee that it or they will remain that way for long.

Christ in Matthew 10:23 says: "Whenever they persecute you in one place, flee to another. I tell you the t***h, you will not finish going through all of the towns of Israel [USA or any country] before the Son of man comes."

Whether we flee or not [depending upon the express unction of God's Spirit in each case], it is comforting to know: "And the Lord shall deliver me [us] from every evil work and will preserve me [us] unto His heavenly kingdom; to Whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." II Timothy 4:18
It should come as no surprise that: br 1. The mora... (show quote)


Sorry, total silliness and not even close to facts.

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Jul 7, 2015 09:32:43   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
fiatlux wrote:
Sorry, total silliness and not even close to facts.

You are correct in saying it is not the Light you seek ( God ) but the flame that consumes ( Hell ). You seem to know where you are going. That is your choice. But I truly hope you repent and change your evil ways.

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Jul 7, 2015 17:47:19   #
solarkin
 
Rufus wrote:
You are correct in saying it is not the Light you seek ( God ) but the flame that consumes ( Hell ). You seem to know where you are going. That is your choice. But I truly hope you repent and change your evil ways.


You've got to change your evil ways baby
Santana !!

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Jul 7, 2015 17:48:35   #
solarkin
 
BearK wrote:
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass away until all these things happen." One of the 'things' He was referring to, was the Temple being rebuilt. If you check into it the Jews are prepared to rebuild, but some things with the Palestinians has to be corrected first.

My understanding about the 'generation' is the return of the Jews to form Israel. It is the ONLY country that went out of existence and then returned to once again be a country. The generation Jesus is referring to (according to what I've read) is the return of the Jews to Israel. A generation is considered 70-80 years, Israel returned in 1948 - that would make it 2018 or 2028.

And, if you think Southerners will just let the government waltz in here and take their guns - think again.
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass aw... (show quote)

You still assume you can accurately interpret God's word.
No human can.

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Jul 7, 2015 18:02:22   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
solarkin wrote:
You still assume you can accurately interpret God's word.
No human can.

None of us can entirely. But as we study God's Word the Holy Spirit reveals t***hs to us and it is a beautiful thing. God Bless.
:thumbup:

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Jul 7, 2015 21:05:18   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Rufus wrote:
None of us can entirely. But as we study God's Word the Holy Spirit reveals t***hs to us and it is a beautiful thing. God Bless.
:thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 8, 2015 09:04:15   #
Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH
 
solarkin wrote:
I hope you are wrong, at least as far as the timing goes.
Isn't it a bit grandiose to assume you understand God, and his plans?
Be prepared to wait with baited breath for another 1000 years.


Is it really grandiose to understand God and His plans when He has written them all down for us to read, understand, and follow?

"If an alarm sounds in a city, do the people hear?...Certainly, the sovereign Lord does nothing without first revealing his plan to his servants the prophets." Amos 3:6:7

Though Noah forewarned everyone through the years he was building the ark, they all ignored him. I can just hear all of his mockers and gainsayers saying, "Really, Noah? It is really grandiose of you to even presume to know and understand God and His plans! Hey, Noah, be prepared to wait with baited breath for another 1000 years!" "And they knew nothing [not even cared to know anything] until the flood came and took them all away. It will be the same at the coming of the son of man." Matthew 24:39

God's prophets through His word have spoken. The question then remains: "Are we going to listen and believe, or mock and disbelieve?" This choice is up to each and every individual, but a disbelieving heart has its consequences just as it did during the days of Noah.

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Jul 8, 2015 09:28:32   #
Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH
 
BearK wrote:
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass away until all these things happen." One of the 'things' He was referring to, was the Temple being rebuilt. If you check into it the Jews are prepared to rebuild, but some things with the Palestinians has to be corrected first.

My understanding about the 'generation' is the return of the Jews to form Israel. It is the ONLY country that went out of existence and then returned to once again be a country. The generation Jesus is referring to (according to what I've read) is the return of the Jews to Israel. A generation is considered 70-80 years, Israel returned in 1948 - that would make it 2018 or 2028.

And, if you think Southerners will just let the government waltz in here and take their guns - think again.
Jesus said, "This generation will not pass aw... (show quote)


Your eschatology is right on; however, the length of a "generation" has been hotly (maybe just warmly) debated. One defining scripture is found in Genesis 15:13-16 where God is speaking to Abraham and says that his descendants will be in bondage for four hundred years and in the fourth generation be returned. This puts a "generation" to be about 100 years. Thus, 1948 + 100 = 2048 with the next Jubilee Year being 2037-38. Anyway, just something to be considered as even here there are questions as to what God meant when He said, "...will return here." "Here" as being where Abraham currently was [in Canaan, later known as Israel] or that they would be either starting or be in the process of "returning here"?

Good job in believing our God-given scriptures!

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Jul 8, 2015 09:53:29   #
Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH
 
solarkin wrote:
You still assume you can accurately interpret God's word.
No human can.


We "assume" nothing, only believe what God has written: "But just as it is written, 'things that no eye has seen, or hear, or mind imagined are the things God has prepared for those who love Him.' God HAS REVEALED these to us by the Spirit...now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we MAY KNOW the things that are freely given to us by God...The UNBELIEVER does NOT receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him and he CANNOT understand them because they [the things of God] are spiritually discerned. The one who is spiritual DISCERNS ALL THINGS...for who has known the mind of the Lord so as to advise Him? But we have the mind of Christ." I Corinthians 2:9-16

Therefore, it is absolutely no wonder that you along with every unbeliever, mock and reject spiritual concepts as you have not the Spirit of God. Without God's Spirit, no one can accept or believe anything written in His word. It is all foolishness to him. But to all of us who believe it is the very wellspring of life.

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Jul 8, 2015 12:21:06   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Oliver wrote:
Your eschatology is right on; however, the length of a "generation" has been hotly (maybe just warmly) debated. One defining scripture is found in Genesis 15:13-16 where God is speaking to Abraham and says that his descendants will be in bondage for four hundred years and in the fourth generation be returned. This puts a "generation" to be about 100 years. Thus, 1948 + 100 = 2048 with the next Jubilee Year being 2037-38. Anyway, just something to be considered as even here there are questions as to what God meant when He said, "...will return here." "Here" as being where Abraham currently was [in Canaan, later known as Israel] or that they would be either starting or be in the process of "returning here"?

Good job in believing our God-given scriptures!
Your eschatology is right on; however, the length ... (show quote)


Thank you, Oliver. Just spent a little time with a Bible scholar, very interesting. I have been saying, the way I am looking at scripture may be far different than for others, but the more you study, the more you move toward the Spirit, the more you understand.

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Jul 10, 2015 08:43:22   #
Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH
 
BearK wrote:
Thank you, Oliver. Just spent a little time with a Bible scholar, very interesting. I have been saying, the way I am looking at scripture may be far different than for others, but the more you study, the more you move toward the Spirit, the more you understand.


Just a word of encouragement: when Christ was tempted of Satan in the wilderness, the very Son of God quoted scripture, not the latest thinking of any scribe or Pharisee. Jesus, the very Son of God [Who Himself is God] answered every temptation with the highest authority possible...the very word of God Himself.

Christ's view of looking at scripture WAS far different than all the others. Welcome to all the rest of us who look at God's word differently than all those around us.

Incidentally, in studying God's word, especially eschatology (prophecy), it is good to keep in mind the following quote: "When the plain sense of scripture makes sense, seek no other sense lest you end up in nonsense."

You are also so right in the more one studies God's Word (in belief), the more His Spirit enlightens one. A little light received, opens one's spiritual receptors for more light. A little light rejected, closes the desire for any more light and the individual is thereby left in a greater darkness.

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Jul 10, 2015 12:03:03   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Oliver wrote:
Just a word of encouragement: when Christ was tempted of Satan in the wilderness, the very Son of God quoted scripture, not the latest thinking of any scribe or Pharisee. Jesus, the very Son of God [Who Himself is God] answered every temptation with the highest authority possible...the very word of God Himself.

Christ's view of looking at scripture WAS far different than all the others. Welcome to all the rest of us who look at God's word differently than all those around us.

Incidentally, in studying God's word, especially eschatology (prophecy), it is good to keep in mind the following quote: "When the plain sense of scripture makes sense, seek no other sense lest you end up in nonsense."

You are also so right in the more one studies God's Word (in belief), the more His Spirit enlightens one. A little light received, opens one's spiritual receptors for more light. A little light rejected, closes the desire for any more light and the individual is thereby left in a greater darkness.
Just a word of encouragement: when Christ was temp... (show quote)


Oliver, I appreciate this quote - Incidentally, in studying God's word, especially eschatology (prophecy), it is good to keep in mind the following quote: "When the plain sense of scripture makes sense, seek no other sense lest you end up in nonsense."

I am so aware that my knowledge and ability are of this world and in no way will I ever fully understand God's Word. I am wise enough to realized that God's idea of judgement, what's wrong and what's right, probably has a much broader meaning than what is in my purview to fully understand, therefore, I prefer to judge not. I have somewhat strong personal feelings, but they are for my behavior. I look at wrong and right as a guideline - some are more capable than others to follow it within reason. Love God first and foremost, and your neighbor as yourself. Sadly, too many people today, do not know how to love themselves or they love themselves too much. So much in life has become either/or, an understanding medium is lost in a fog.

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