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May 30, 2015 14:38:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
More Americans need to figure this out.
I am not sure if it is possible to get a non bought candidate on an R or D ticket anymore.
BearK wrote:
Yes, the Fed was reinstated under Woodrow Wilson, and they are bleeding America to death. The constitution was written to not have such a central bank, one where we (the people) have no right to see their books, BUT we have to pay them interest for the worthless paper they print, for their losses that we have no idea if they are legitimate or not, plus interest. The Fed is a banking cabal of thieves.

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May 30, 2015 14:38:25   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are welcome. And I hope to see your posts here also. I will be one of the first to read them!!!

No Franklin and many other have been misquoted, either by mistake or purpose I will not judge. There is a book called "What they really said" full of the quotes commonly used by CT. Some they quote correctly, but many they turn the words ever so slightly. Many of the CTs on OPP use these quotes.....daily.

Anyway, so you went to Israel. I still have family there and whenever I can, I slip away to spend time with them. It is not a dangerous as Baltimore or NYC.... Yes there is something quite extraordinary about Israel, one can just imagine Jesus walking from here to there...visiting the Synagogue, bathing in the pools of fresh water. A peace that is unsurpassed. Lately I have been thinking of moving my entire family and my businesses there. I would not want to leave a family member here and move without them.

Oh well.....
You are welcome. And I hope to see your posts her... (show quote)


Boy, I'd move with you, if I didn't have family here - and they seem to always depend on me. Well, if the Lord blesses you with strength, I believe you are obligated to stand on it.

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May 30, 2015 14:53:52   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are much too kind... I saw all this space and just had to start filling it up. I do hope that more people will put posts here... It is a good place to escape to when the Main is filled with the same things, repeated with cut and paste by so many different people.

Anyway, you are quite right. Neither Washington or Franklin said anything negative about the Jews, in fact they were friends to them. But, the brushed off conspiracy theorist will often add those two quotes ..... even knowing they are misquotes.

Thank you for joining us here on Faith. You will not see many more comments from me, as I just received a PM from an individual complaining that I am too present. Again, thank you and please add your own topics!!
You are much too kind... I saw all this space and ... (show quote)



Never ceases to amaze me how many people do not use common sense, don't seem to have any, or the degree to which they don't use it.

A complaint of being too present ?

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May 30, 2015 15:23:54   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Spankem wrote:
Never ceases to amaze me how many people do not use common sense, don't seem to have any, or the degree to which they don't use it.

A complaint of being too present ?


Some people will make up an imagined complaint, they just don't want others to be happy or enjoy something. Check out (on chit-chat) "The Beach was too Sandy."

PL, I believe you will not let some complaining twit keep you from posting.

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May 30, 2015 15:32:57   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
BearK wrote:
Some people will make up an imagined complaint, they just don't want others to be happy or enjoy something. Check out (on chit-chat) "The Beach was too Sandy."

PL, I believe you will not let some complaining twit keep you from posting.


No, a complaining twit might only encourage me, thanks.

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May 30, 2015 21:00:38   #
son of witless
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I will attempt to offer you food for thought. The other side of the door, a view that you may not currently have or even thought about. The subject today is Anti-Semitism, from 6000 years ago until our founding fathers.

I think that this is long enough, so what are your thoughts? Discussion is welcome, regardless of which side you fall.


I know my European and American history pretty well, but most of what you posted was unknown to me. I found your Ben Franklin stuff interesting. Years ago I read Franklin's Autobiography. I don't remember much now, but I doubt there was much or anything concerning the Jews in there. I also recently browsed through a biography of John Paul Jones and in the notes were many references to false and forged documents concerning Jones.

Apparently false information about Revolutionary figures is common.

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May 30, 2015 21:06:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
If you thought that was widely untaught in schools, then you would be shocked to learn about Henry Ford. Perhaps after this section gets off the ground, I will do the second part of this and discuss the history up to present day. For now, I think I will allow others to place their own posts.

son of witless wrote:
I know my European and American history pretty well, but most of what you posted was unknown to me. I found your Ben Franklin stuff interesting. Years ago I read Franklin's Autobiography. I don't remember much now, but I doubt there was much or anything concerning the Jews in there. I also recently browsed through a biography of John Paul Jones and in the notes were many references to false and forged documents concerning Jones.

Apparently false information about Revolutionary figures is common.
I know my European and American history pretty wel... (show quote)

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May 30, 2015 23:58:10   #
fiatlux
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I will attempt to offer you food for thought. The other side of the door, a view that you may not currently have or even thought about. The subject today is Anti-Semitism, from 6000 years ago until our founding fathers.

I think that this is long enough, so what are your thoughts? Discussion is welcome, regardless of which side you fall.


I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church a generation after the common understanding that Jews were "Christ-killers." But it lingered. I remember baiting a Jewish girl on our soccer team, constantly poking at her in very raw terms. She never blinked or had a word to say in defense. Our first game we played last year's state champions. This game was crucial to our season from the get. I was a starter and ready to give my best. The coach benched me in favor of playing the "Christ-killer." I was utterly beside myself with rage and frustration. We won two to nothing on her two goals. She walked up to me afterwards and just said, "And..." All that I could muster then was a murmured "Great game." But I was changed. We never became good friends yet she is one of the few I still talk to. And for some reason one of the few she still talks to.

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May 31, 2015 00:29:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
When I went to school, I was called that and worse. I recall being pushed into mud, being called big nose, kike, and a host of other things. But, the one that I remember to this day was a when a boy walked up to me spit in my face and said it was too bad that I was not toasted along with the other scum. I walked away feeling that somehow being born a Jew was a curse from God, that somehow I had displeased him or disappointed him that he was punishing me. I guess I was perhaps 7 years old and I am now 65, I can see the face of that boy, the contempt in his eyes, the utter hate. I think about him now and again, I wonder what became of him; what he did with his life.

fiatlux wrote:
I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church a generation after the common understanding that Jews were "Christ-killers." But it lingered. I remember baiting a Jewish girl on our soccer team, constantly poking at her in very raw terms. She never blinked or had a word to say in defense. Our first game we played last year's state champions. This game was crucial to our season from the get. I was a starter and ready to give my best. The coach benched me in favor of playing the "Christ-killer." I was utterly beside myself with rage and frustration. We won two to nothing on her two goals. She walked up to me afterwards and just said, "And..." All that I could muster then was a murmured "Great game." But I was changed. We never became good friends yet she is one of the few I still talk to. And for some reason one of the few she still talks to.
I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church a generatio... (show quote)

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May 31, 2015 00:59:04   #
fiatlux
 
Pennylynn wrote:
When I went to school, I was called that and worse. I recall being pushed into mud, being called big nose, kike, and a host of other things. But, the one that I remember to this day was a when a boy walked up to me spit in my face and said it was too bad that I was not toasted along with the other scum. I walked away feeling that somehow being born a Jew was a curse from God, that somehow I had displeased him or disappointed him that he was punishing me. I guess I was perhaps 7 years old and I am now 65, I can see the face of that boy, the contempt in his eyes, the utter hate. I think about him now and again, I wonder what became of him; what he did with his life.
When I went to school, I was called that and worse... (show quote)


Crushing. Sorry. That is the worst pain I can imagine. And I did it. In a weak defense I do not intend to mount, I thought of it as sport, not technically cruel or vile just in keeping with tradition and the way of things, as I understood it. There was not an injured party, only a guilty one yet unaware of their enormous harm. The harm? Being a Jew. Hey, they rejected and killed Christ: their race and religion indicted all.

Jews were not people but part of a threat to a belief system I was taught to adore. Like all good genocidal thinking, they were not just antagonists to being righteous in the Lord, somehow they were less than human. This is nothing I consciously thought but more an inculcated view, an insidious poisoning. Jews are evil.

Marla gave me a great, big slap in the face. "Thanks, I needed that." I really did. I am now stunned completely at my former (in lock-step) attitude. How could I, very intelligent person that I am, be so totally blind?

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May 31, 2015 02:39:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Actually it made me stronger, as we believe, all things are part of God's plan. When bad things happen, we are not privy to why. I never held it against the kid and don't even recall being angry with him. I did, however, avoid him and in fact most of the other kids. I still live in the same town, and I do remember when he and his family moved away. I was not happy about his departure, but I have often thought about him.... and I always prayed that he would someday change his opinion about me.

Your story is not too unusual. What is unusual is your taking the time to talk about it. I admire that! I too, have done many wrongs in my life and some I still can not find the strength to talk about. I have said hurtful things that I am certain harmed others. Of course I always apologized, but as my wonderful Papa taught me.... Words are the biggest and strongest weapons ever used. Worse than a bomb, worse than a bullet, and it stings worse than any cut. All physical harm; a cut, a shot.... all heal. But, once words are spoken they can never be recalled the pain and harm is done.

I understand how your felt. Very intelligent or like me, an average woman with average intelligence can easily fall into wrong actions or thought. I worked in a hospital for a few years. In the start, the patients were only thought of by their particular condition. It was not until after the third week or so, after I spent time talking with them that those people became individuals and their conditions became a side bar, something that needed to be cured.

fiatlux wrote:
Crushing. Sorry. That is the worst pain I can imagine. And I did it. In a weak defense I do not intend to mount, I thought of it as sport, not technically cruel or vile just in keeping with tradition and the way of things, as I understood it. There was not an injured party, only a guilty one yet unaware of their enormous harm. The harm? Being a Jew. Hey, they rejected and killed Christ: their race and religion indicted all.

Jews were not people but part of a threat to a belief system I was taught to adore. Like all good genocidal thinking, they were not just antagonists to being righteous in the Lord, somehow they were less than human. This is nothing I consciously thought but more an inculcated view, an insidious poisoning. Jews are evil.

Marla gave me a great, big slap in the face. "Thanks, I needed that." I really did. I am now stunned completely at my former (in lock-step) attitude. How could I, very intelligent person that I am, be so totally blind?
Crushing. Sorry. That is the worst pain I can imag... (show quote)

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May 31, 2015 06:08:31   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Pennylynn wrote:
When I went to school, I was called that and worse. I recall being pushed into mud, being called big nose, kike, and a host of other things. But, the one that I remember to this day was a when a boy walked up to me spit in my face and said it was too bad that I was not toasted along with the other scum. I walked away feeling that somehow being born a Jew was a curse from God, that somehow I had displeased him or disappointed him that he was punishing me. I guess I was perhaps 7 years old and I am now 65, I can see the face of that boy, the contempt in his eyes, the utter hate. I think about him now and again, I wonder what became of him; what he did with his life.
When I went to school, I was called that and worse... (show quote)




I grew up in an area of mainly Germans and Scandinavians, so most were Catholic or Lutheran. I don't remember differentiating Christian from Jew. I knew and had classes with some who were Jews, three that I remember were Larry Goldberg, Bernard Ugent, and a very pretty girl whose first name was June, but I forget her last name. They were smart, and so was I so we had classes together. As far as I saw it, they were very accepted.

The tongue is a two edged sword, such a small part of our body, but a part that can cut, slice, and dice. It can spew curses in one moment, and blessings in the next. Once your words are spoken, they are forever, you cannot take them back. Remember, you speak into existence what you say.

As an aside, I will try to do a devotional on the purpose of pain.

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May 31, 2015 06:16:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
That would be wonderful, I look forward to it. Pain is very educational.


And I so agree with you. The power of speech!!!

BearK wrote:
I grew up in an area of mainly Germans and Scandinavians, so most were Catholic or Lutheran. I don't remember differentiating Christian from Jew. I knew and had classes with some who were Jews, three that I remember were Larry Goldberg, Bernard Ugent, and a very pretty girl whose first name was June, but I forget her last name. They were smart, and so was I so we had classes together. As far as I saw it, they were very accepted.

The tongue is a two edged sword, such a small part of our body, but a part that can cut, slice, and dice. It can spew curses in one moment, and blessings in the next. Once your words are spoken, they are forever, you cannot take them back. Remember, you speak into existence what you say.

As an aside, I will try to do a devotional on the purpose of pain.
I grew up in an area of mainly Germans and Scandin... (show quote)

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May 31, 2015 16:38:54   #
Comment Loc: California
 
I
Pennylynn wrote:
You are welcome. And I hope to see your posts here also. I will be one of the first to read them!!!

No Franklin and many other have been misquoted, either by mistake or purpose I will not judge. There is a book called "What they really said" full of the quotes commonly used by CT. Some they quote correctly, but many they turn the words ever so slightly. Many of the CTs on OPP use these quotes.....daily.

Anyway, so you went to Israel. I still have family there and whenever I can, I slip away to spend time with them. It is not a dangerous as Baltimore or NYC.... Yes there is something quite extraordinary about Israel, one can just imagine Jesus walking from here to there...visiting the Synagogue, bathing in the pools of fresh water. A peace that is unsurpassed. Lately I have been thinking of moving my entire family and my businesses there. I would not want to leave a family member here and move without them.

Oh well.....
You are welcome. And I hope to see your posts her... (show quote)


I support the Jewish people & their country. All my life I have heard more racism directed at them. My dad, God bless his soul, used to say: "Jew them down" when referring to a bartering deal. I think he was not being racist but, referring to the hard bargaining that Jewish people tend to do according to is view. That by itself didn't cause my attitude formation as a lad: What persuaded me most was the Bible's promulgation that Jesus was a Jew. God chose the Jewish people in which to plant his son. Then I rationalized that the Jewish people can't be bad because God chose them. I have not known thousands of Jewish people but, everyone I have met exhibited the best of character, ambition and intellect. Before I die I too wish to visit them in Israel. God bless Israel and her people.

The Franklin proclamation???? Does not accurately describe the Jewish people. As I was reading it I recognized that it described Negros. High % of criminals among their population, they segregate in neighborhoods which they quickly turn into ghettos, high % don't believe in God (criminals), they are destroying the country due to dependency, ---truncated!!!

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May 31, 2015 17:18:44   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
Comment wrote:
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I support the Jewish people & their country. All my life I have heard more racism directed at them. My dad, God bless his soul, used to say: "Jew them down" when referring to a bartering deal. I think he was not being racist but, referring to the hard bargaining that Jewish people tend to do according to is view. That by itself didn't cause my attitude formation as a lad: What persuaded me most was the Bible's promulgation that Jesus was a Jew. God chose the Jewish people in which to plant his son. Then I rationalized that the Jewish people can't be bad because God chose them. I have not known thousands of Jewish people but, everyone I have met exhibited the best of character, ambition and intellect. Before I die I too wish to visit them in Israel. God bless Israel and her people.

The Franklin proclamation???? Does not accurately describe the Jewish people. As I was reading it I recognized that it described Negros. High % of criminals among their population, they segregate in neighborhoods which they quickly turn into ghettos, high % don't believe in God (criminals), they are destroying the country due to dependency, ---truncated!!!
I br br I support the Jewish people & their ... (show quote)




The sad thing about the blacks is they used to have strong family ties, but when they began to receive welfare, in order to get more money, the father (at first) reluctantly left. That left the kids with no father figure to look up to, boys began to join gangs and 'look up' to the leader. It has really broken that segment of the population down, and now they are starting the same thing with poor white families. Destroy the family, and it's easier to enslave the people.

I am not defending the crime, etc. that goes on in the ghettos, or among their population. The black on black crime is extremely high, and very tragic. Besides taking away the father, it has taken away the pride one has in themselves, and in doing a good job. I happen to be white, but old enough to be able to see what welfare has done to families.

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