Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I will attempt to offer you food for thought. The other side of the door, a view that you may not currently have or even thought about. The subject today is Anti-Semitism, from 6000 years ago until our founding fathers.

So, to begin. Anti-Semitism is very old. If did not start with Germany, no further back. It is not a Christian invention, go back further… no it was not the Arabic who started the hypercritical view of the Jew….. Egyptians? No, back even further. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. And to correct a misconception right off, these men were not considered Jews. The terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time; nevertheless, for convenience and in accordance with common practice, I will use these terms. Make no mistake these are the men who gave reason for the known world, and remember they did not have a concept of a world bigger than the places they had visited, to resent the nation that would grow from these gentlemen. Each one announced that their children were the chosen ones, those selected by God to carry the word, one God a belief of monotheism. This was a tough pill for many to handle, during that time there were all sorts of gods; ones that brought daylight and darkness, those that took the bodies of the dead, the ones who ensured the Nile would not flood, and this list is pretty much endless. Many of these gods competed with one another and there was a revolving door so to speak, one god would enter and another would exit. Depending on the needs of the worshipers. Now along comes Abraham, who actually had a conversation with God. Up until this point, the gods were figures who never engaged in conversations with the common folks, but now there is a nomadic family who claims that they were contacted and spoke with God. Anger, denial, and the curse of hate for this new nation began and it has grown and withered as the ocean races and retreats from the shores. Right now, we are going through high tide. A resurgence of hate, misunderstanding and resentment.


Okay, enough of way back history and I will skip all the way forward to the New World. America, the land of opportunity where all are welcomed and diversity is not only appreciated but needed for a forward moving nation. Surly the Jew was accepted as were other nationalities and religions. Well, sorry to bust that bubble, but America was not welcoming and in the beginning there were many who “encouraged” the Jew to seek a home elsewhere. My reference for some of the following is from an excellent book entitled A Convenient Hatred: The History of Anti-Semitism available from http://www.facinghistory.org/for-educators/educator-network or you may be able to find it in a University Library.


So we are in the land of opportunity and the time is precolonial days, our nation was still owned by the United Kingdom, land was provided by grants and the overseers were appointed by the King. And a ship lands with 23 funny speaking and acting people, one would call them Dutch, but they came from South America and say they are Jews. A petition was circulated, people were upset and talking about the “new odd people” who just arrived. They did not want them “spoiling” the new world with their beliefs and history of killing Jesus. Arthur Hertzberg in The Jews in America: writes: “Two weeks after they landed, Stuyvesant heard the complaint from the local merchants and from the Church that "the Jews who had arrived would nearly all like to remain here." Stuyvesant decided to chase them out. Using the usual formulas of religious invective - he called the Jews "repugnant," "deceitful," and "enemies and blasphemers of Christ" - Stuyvesant recommended to his directors... "to require them in a friendly way to depart." The push to ostracize these people failed, and so they remained. But, there were laws signed and enforced. Jews were not permitted to own property (land), they could not open a business, they were not allowed to build a place of worship and they were not allowed to pray in public. They were permitted to rent land and farm it, they were allowed to work on farms and for businessmen, and no one cared if they prayed in the house, providing that the “noise” could not be heard outside of the confines of that house. They had no say in town management, could not vote (and this did not change for many years), and they could not hold a public office. And one other law Jews were not allowed “to import more Jews.” Some of these laws and notions were very short lived and with perseverance the Jew gained rights. Perhaps this was due to the fact that The American Colonial world was growing, changing and evolving so rapidly it did not have time to focus on historical Jewish scapegoatism. The demands of the frontier and the expanding new American economic power needed the best of all of its people. Hatred of the Jew and imported anti-Semitism did exist but it could not flourish in the melting pot of common need and survival.

It was not until 1753, the British Parliament, to legitimize and encourage economic development both in the colonies and in the mother country passed a Jewish Naturalization Bill. The purpose simply enough was to grant limited rights, such as land ownership, to foreign born Jews who wished to become British subjects. The bill had the opposite effect in England stirring intense violent anti-Semitic feeling and prejudices. The bill was repealed by Parliament in 1760. In Colonial America the legislation was generally ignored or circumspectly treated. (The first permanent synagogue community Kehilah ha Kadosh Beth Shalome, was founded in 1789 in Richmond, Va.. Beth Shalome built its first permanent building in 1820 in Richmond.)

For almost a hundred years, if one colony refused to grant citizenship to a Jew the expedient thing was to go to another colony that would grant it or more simply ignore the issues of Naturalization entirely as most immigrants did. For the most part the tiny Jewish community was not affected by the machinations of the mother country's bigotry.

Unlike many immigrants, the Jews did not come seeking freedom of religion as much as freedom of opportunity. And that is why they settled where doors were opened to them.

And the War of Independence. You know, this did not start out intentionally as a revolution. The Colonial American world was an evolving, growing English world that demanded fair representation from the British Parliament. The British government saw the Americas as a source of money, power and natural resources to be delivered and ruled unquestioningly by the mother country.

The British government failed to realize that the Colonials saw themselves as British Americans with the right to a voice in their affairs, to influence their laws, their economy their frontiers and their taxation. The Revolutionary war was to be the longest war in American history prior to Vietnam. It was fought over a one thousand five hundred mile front on the developed farmlands of thirteen colonies, on the sea and on the frontier.

Oct. 25. 1765, a group of Philadelphia merchants gathered in the State House to sign the non-importation agreement to fight the hated Stamp Tax of the British government. The first man to step forward to sign his name was the president of Mikve Israel Congregation, Philadelphia's only synagogue, Mathias Bush.

As the tensions between Britain and the American Colonies increased and finally erupted into war the American Colonial population was split almost into thirds; one third supported the war, one third was neutral and one third was pro-British. The small Jewish population of America was also divided – the choice though was very heavily and disproportionally in favor and support of the American Revolution. Not only did the Jews pledge their fortunes and sacred honor for America but their very lives.

Compromise between Britain and its colonies could not be reached. The British blockaded Boston and sent an occupying army to take the city. The call to arms rang throughout the countryside. Volunteers rushed to defend the city at the Battle of Bunker Hill, June 17, 1776. The famous order of the American commander during the battle was "do not fire until you see the whites of their (the advancing British Regular's) eyes."

In the front ranks of the smoke and fire of battle was Aaron Solomon standing shoulder to shoulder with his Christian comrades of the Gloucester volunteers. Eight hundred miles to the South the British were stirring up the Cherokee Indians to attack and kill settlers on the South Carolina/Georgia frontiers.

Francis Salvador, a Jew of Sephardic heritage, the first Jew to be elected to a Colonial constituent assembly rode out to carry the alarm and raise the volunteers to repel the impending Indians attacks. He returned at the head of a force of frontiersmen only to be ambushed, shot down and scalped, July 1, 1776. Salvador had the dubious honor of being the first American Jew to give his life for his adopted country.

A few days later in Philadelphia, July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was written. A copy was sent to Amsterdam via the small Dutch Caribbean Island of St. Eustatius. The Declaration was intercepted by the British at sea. An accompanying letter with the Declaration of Independence was also intercepted and sent to London as being a secret code about the document that needed to be deciphered - the letter was written in Hebrew.

The war was not going well at first for the young American army. Though facing hard times and even defeat, Jews stood and fought along with their neighbors. Into the terrible dark cold winter at Valley Forge, Abraham Levy and Phillip Russell stood their watch. Joseph Simon from his frontier forge at Lancaster, Pa. supplied the Army with the famous Henry Rifles. Jewish trading merchants, peaceful before the war, outfitted their ships to become privateers and ravage the British at sea. The cost was great, the great merchant traders of Newport, Rhode Island saw their fortunes lost.

Men such as Aaron Lopez were bankrupted supporting the Revolution when their ships were lost to the British. In the area of finance the young American government might have foundered too except for the financial genius and personal financial risk and support taken on by Hayim Solomon. Solomon was to die bankrupted by his total support of the American cause. Though small in number the Jews chose to caste their fate with America.

As late as 1781 the war had not been won by the Americans nor was it lost by the British. Arms were being funneled into the Colonies by arms merchants running the British blockade primarily from the tiny free trading Island of Dutch St. Eustatius. Jewish merchants and arms traders were a major presence on the island.

In 1781, the British realized they had to cut off the open door of arms shipments to the rebels through St. Eustatius. Admiral Sir George Rodney was sent to capture the island. His goal was to destroy the supplies and destroy the island's commercial and merchant class so they could not provide any more aide to the rebels. Early in 1781 the lightly defended island fell to the heavy presence of the main British battle fleet. Rodney in his vehemence destroyed the warehouses and the supplies. He burnt every home. He paid particular venomous attention to the Jews of St. Eustatius. The British burnt their homes and the synagogue, Honen Dalim, "She Who is Charitable to the Poor" – 1739. Jewish property was confiscated and the men imprisoned with particular cruelty. Rodney spent months directing half his fleet to convey much of the stolen treasure back to England.

While Rodney was engaged in St. Eustatius, Lord Cornwallis and his army of British regulars were forced out of the Carolinas and retreated to the small port of Yorktown, Virginia on the James Peninsula. He needed to await critical re-provisioning and fresh reinforcements being brought by the British fleet. The weakened British fleet, with Cornwallis's reinforcements, was intercepted at sea by the French fleet under Admiral DeGrasse and soundly defeated. Degrasse took up positions at the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay blockading Yorktown from the Sea.

General George Washington saw his chance. Washington trapped and besieged Cornwallis. In short course Cornwallis surrendered. The war was over. The Americans had won with the help of the French.

At this point, when I am lecturing, I normally ask the audience to raise their hand if they have heard of the Benjamin Franklin Prophecies. I normally get one or two. The last time I delivered this, almost 2 months ago, almost everyone raised their hands. So, I asked…. Raise your hand if you believe it to be true. Same hands. What? You do not know about this? Well, in 1934 a document “was discovered” where Benjamin Franklin was reported as having said "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered the moral tone, depreciated the commercial integrity, have segregated themselves, and have not been assimilated, have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion, have built up a state within a state, and have, when opposed, tried to strangle that country to death financially. “If you do not exclude them from the United States, in the Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government." This evil speech was reportedly giving warning about admitting Jews into the country. The Franklin quote apparently first turned up on February 3, 1934, in William Dudley Pelley's pro-Nazi sheet, Liberation, published in Asheville, North Carolina. According to Pelley, it was taken from notes made by Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, delegate to the Constitutional Convention from South Carolina, between sessions of the convention, and it was entitled, "Chit Chats Around the Table During Intermission." But there is no Pinckney diary, and historian Charles Beard, after a thorough investigation of the "Franklin Prophecy," concluded: "This alleged 'Prophecy' ascribed to Franklin is a crude forgery, and his name should be cleared of the crass prejudice attributed to him. There is in our historical records no evidence whatever of any basis for the falsehood."


However, many CT say that not just Benjamin Franklin, but indeed George Washington also “hated” the Jew. "They work more effectively against us than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in. It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago has not hunted them down as pests to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America—The Jews."


This quote, popular among American anti-Semites, is a distortion of a statement Washington once made about speculators in currency during the American Revolution. "This tribe of black gentry," he wrote, "work more effectually against us, than the enemy's arms. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties, and the great cause we are engaged in. It is much to be lamented, that each State, long ere this, has not hunted them down as pests to society, and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."


I could go on, but I think that you may see a trend. Words and quotes of famous individuals have been manipulated for thousands of years to add life to a dull conversation or to cast doubt on others. Plato did it and so did Cicero. Why find it strange that those who hate will find a word or two to invert or change to charge an issue against those they hate. And now you know more of early American history, little know or ignored facts. Do you honestly think that Benjamin Franklin or George Washington saw the Jew as an enemy?

I think that this is long enough, so what are your thoughts? Discussion is welcome, regardless of which side you fall.

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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The black while enslaved fell back on religion while being enslaved. The Jews on the other hand, followed their beliefs from the beginning and followed the guidance of their laws. Making them powerful in the political sense, as well as the money sense................They held their monies tight, their secrets even tighter. I can understand how Washington saw them a a threat.............................Many Jews went into hiding because they know they would be presecuted here, just like they were anywhere they went because of their money management skill. From all the Banker families, how many of them are Jews? Only asking............food for thought.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

Just because a Jew is corrupt does not mean all Jew's are corrupt. I am willing to give anyone a chance, but if they prove worthless or corrupt, then I will leave them, but just because they belong to a given group does not make them bad. They are bad when they prove themselves to be bad..............

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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I agree.

Spankem Loc: NJ

That was a good read for me, thanks for the history lesson. I have a high school education, and the rest from reading and life itself.
My opinion, from what I do know of history, B Franklin and G Washington would not have considered the Jews an enemy, and I am sure were welcomed as American Revolutionaries.
Not having known them personally, I find it hard to believe men of their character, beliefs and contributions to our constitution and the ideas of America would hold such stupid prejudice. Please don't disappoint me and tell me otherwise based on known historical fact.
However I would like to know the truth, regardless.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You are much too kind... I saw all this space and just had to start filling it up. I do hope that more people will put posts here... It is a good place to escape to when the Main is filled with the same things, repeated with cut and paste by so many different people.

Anyway, you are quite right. Neither Washington or Franklin said anything negative about the Jews, in fact they were friends to them. But, the brushed off conspiracy theorist will often add those two quotes ..... even knowing they are misquotes.

Thank you for joining us here on Faith. You will not see many more comments from me, as I just received a PM from an individual complaining that I am too present. Again, thank you and please add your own topics!!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

PennyLynn discounts the veracity of the sources of the Franklin and Washington statements - " Well, in 1934 a document “was discovered” where Benjamin Franklin was reported as having said "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered the moral tone, depreciated the commercial integrity, have segregated themselves, and have not been assimilated, have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion, have built up a state within a state, and have, when opposed, tried to strangle that country to death financially. “If you do not exclude them from the United States, in the Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government." This evil speech was reportedly giving warning about admitting Jews into the country. The Franklin quote apparently first turned up on February 3, 1934, in William Dudley Pelley's pro-Nazi sheet, Liberation, published in Asheville, North Carolina. According to Pelley, it was taken from notes made by Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, delegate to the Constitutional Convention from South Carolina, between sessions of the convention, and it was entitled, "Chit Chats Around the Table During Intermission." But there is no Pinckney diary, and historian Charles Beard, after a thorough investigation of the "Franklin Prophecy," concluded: "This alleged 'Prophecy' ascribed to Franklin is a crude forgery, and his name should be cleared of the crass prejudice attributed to him. There is in our historical records no evidence whatever of any basis for the falsehood."


However, many CT say that not just Benjamin Franklin, but indeed George Washington also “hated” the Jew. "They work more effectively against us than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in. It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago has not hunted them down as pests to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America—The Jews."


This quote, popular among American anti-Semites, is a distortion of a statement Washington once made about speculators in currency during the American Revolution. "This tribe of black gentry," he wrote, "work more effectually against us, than the enemy's arms. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties, and the great cause we are engaged in. It is much to be lamented, that each State, long ere this, has not hunted them down as pests to society, and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."


Sources true or untrue?
BTW; there are dozens of other quotes regarding this subject.
Well the proof is in the pudding.
We have an annual $18 Trillion unpayable 'debt' to those our founding fathers warned us of. Never ending interest attached.
Over 100 Trillion in unfunded liabilities. ($200 Trillion?)
A Constitution that has been replaced with a corporation.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, with its collections department, the IRS.
A bought government.
An owned MSM.
A nation of ignorance.
This is not hatred; just terrible facts that are being ignored.

Spankem Loc: NJ

I'll bite, what's your point ?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

The point was made.
We have a parasitical element in place running the show.
Our founding Fathers warned us of this.
It took the central bank to get it done.

On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON. The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has YET TO BE ACTED ON. So, this ELECTRONIC BOOKLET should be reprinted, reposted, set up on web pages and circulated far and wide. (For the whole expose – Google: Congressman McFadden Fed expose)
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Congressman McFadden
on the Federal Reserve Corporation
Remarks in Congress, 1934
AN ASTOUNDING EXPOSURE
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Reprinted by permission 1978 Arizona Caucus Club
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Congressman McFadden's Speech
On the Federal Reserve Corporation
Quotations from several speeches made on the Floor of the House of Representatives by the Honorable Louis T. McFadden of Pennsylvania. Mr. McFadden, due to his having served as Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee for more than 10 years, was the best posted man on these matters in America and was in a position to speak with authority of the vast ramifications of this gigantic private credit monopoly. As Representative of a State which was among the first to declare its freedom from foreign money tyrants it is fitting that Pennsylvania, the cradle of liberty, be again given the credit for producing a son that was not afraid to hurl defiance in the face of the money-bund. Whereas Mr. McFadden was elected to the high office on both the Democratic and Republican tickets, there can be no accusation of partisanship lodged against him. Because these speeches are set out in full in the Congressional Record, they carry weight that no amount of condemnation on the part of private individuals could hope to carry.
The Federal Reserve-A Corrupt Institution
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.
"This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
"Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. ….. (For the whole expose – Google: Congressman McFadden Fed expose)
"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any.
"In 1912 the National Monetary Association, under the chairmanship of the late Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, made a report and presented a vicious bill called the National Reserve Association bill. This bill is usually spoken of as the Aldrich bill. Senator Aldrich did not write the Aldrich bill. He was the tool, if not the accomplice, of the European bankers who for nearly twenty years had been scheming to set up a central bank in this Country and who in 1912 has spent and were continuing to spend vast sums of money to accomplish their purpose.
"We were opposed to the Aldrich plan for a central bank. The men who rule the Democratic Party then promised the people that if they were returned to power there would be no central bank established here while they held the reigns of government. Thirteen months later that promise was broken, and the Wilson administration, under the tutelage of those sinister Wall Street figures who stood behind Colonel House, established here in our free Country the worm-eaten monarchical institution of the "King's Bank" to control us from the top downward, and from the cradle to the grave. ……..
PRESIDENT JACKSON'S TIME
"One of the greatest battles for the preservation of this Republic was fought out here in Jackson's time; when the second Bank of the United States, founded on the same false principles of those which are here exemplified in the Fed was hurled out of existence. After that, in 1837, the Country was warned against the dangers that might ensue if the predatory interests after being cast out should come back in disguise and unite themselves to the Executive and through him acquire control of the Government. …..
"The danger that the Country was warned against came upon us and is shown in the long train of horrors attendant upon the affairs of the traitorous and dishonest Fed. Look around you when you leave this Chamber and you will see evidences of it in all sides. This is an era of misery and for the conditions that caused that misery, the Fed are fully liable. This is an era of financed crime and in the financing of crime the Fed does not play the part of a disinterested spectator. … "The Fed became law the day before Christmas Eve, in the year 1913, and shortly afterwards, the German International bankers, Kuhn, Loeb and Co. sent one of their partners here to run it.
THE GREAT DEPRESSION
"Meanwhile and on account of it, we ourselves are in the midst of the greatest depression we have ever known. From the Atlantic to the Pacific, our Country has been ravaged and laid waste by the evil practices of the Fed and the interests which control them. At no time in our history, has the general welfare of the people been at a lower level or the minds of the people so full of despair. …. As Agents of the foreign central banks the Fed try by every means in their power to reduce our favorable balance of trade. (Remember; this warning was written in1934

Spankem Loc: NJ

With my ignorance here, I'm still not getting the point. Are you saying the Jews are to blame here?
I agree the federal reserve is a bad thing. so ?

BearK Loc: TN

When I was reading Franklin's purported prophecy, I was saying to myself, "I doubt this." My personal feeling toward Jews is that I admire them greatly.

I went to Israel 2 years ago, and loved every minute of my stay. I went with a sponsored trip by Liberty University, half student, half older folks - of which I was the oldest. Every morning I asked the Lord for strength through the day, kept up with all, did what they did, including attending the classes at night - wide awake. Several commented to me they admired my ability to keep up, and keep going.


Oh yes, I did not take the steps down the aqueduct at Masada. Several others did not go down the dark, slippery steps either.

I felt a closeness to the Lord there that I have never felt anywhere else. I would love to go back.

Thanks for the History lesson.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Famous Quotes on Money:
The Federal Reserve Banks (privately owned banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. - Senator Louis T. McFadden (Chairman of the U.S. Banking and Currency Commission for 22 years) (For the whole expose – Google: Congressman McFadden Fed expose)

The people will can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power. - Abraham Lincoln

The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. Benjamin Franklin. (that is what is happening now and since 1913)

All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation. – President John Adams

If Congress has the right under the constitution to issue paper money, it was given to themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. - President Andrew Jackson (He had the central bank removed. It took until 1913 to get it reinstituted)
Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. - President James A. Garfield

Imagine making the people pay usurious tribute to the banks for the use of their own money! Leviticus 25:35-37

I have many more quotes; but I am tired of typing.

BearK Loc: TN

Yes, the Fed was reinstated under Woodrow Wilson, and they are bleeding America to death. The constitution was written to not have such a central bank, one where we (the people) have no right to see their books, BUT we have to pay them interest for the worthless paper they print, for their losses that we have no idea if they are legitimate or not, plus interest. The Fed is a banking cabal of thieves.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You are welcome. And I hope to see your posts here also. I will be one of the first to read them!!!

No Franklin and many other have been misquoted, either by mistake or purpose I will not judge. There is a book called "What they really said" full of the quotes commonly used by CT. Some they quote correctly, but many they turn the words ever so slightly. Many of the CTs on OPP use these quotes.....daily.

Anyway, so you went to Israel. I still have family there and whenever I can, I slip away to spend time with them. It is not a dangerous as Baltimore or NYC.... Yes there is something quite extraordinary about Israel, one can just imagine Jesus walking from here to there...visiting the Synagogue, bathing in the pools of fresh water. A peace that is unsurpassed. Lately I have been thinking of moving my entire family and my businesses there. I would not want to leave a family member here and move without them.

Oh well.....

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

That is what this is all about.
The FED is killing this country.
And these bankers wealth has allowed them to buy most everything.
Our elections have become a charade.

As long as the FED is allowed to continue to rule our economy, and print money out of thin air at interest to our government; there is NO hope of correcting our endentured servitude.