I'm a woman, start there. On top of that I honestly couldn't identify with the h**e I saw coming from that party... I was very put off and disgusted by the h**e and anti Americanism (just my humble opinion) that I saw. I am all about separation of church and state.. religion doesn't make a difference to me (save one obvious exception) and I felt like Republicans were using religion as a hammer while ignoring actual religious teachings.. I mean if you are gonna use it at least use it accurately. I felt like Republicans were basically saying their religion was going to influence all of their legislation and I don't believe that it's ok to use religion to decide what people can do with their lives... while I may share their "religion" I did not agree with them using it for everyone regardless of their views on religion. I felt they had a hard time being Americans, Republicans, and Christians all at the same time without forcing the latter two onto the first. I didn't feel their economic plan was feasible (neither was Obamas), I am for gay rights as its an issue that hits close to home, and as a women I was very put off by Romney. So those are my reasons.. you may not agree with them or get them but they were MY reasons. Do I love Obama? NO.. I don't. But I will be honest.. unless the right gets their act together I won't be able to v**e for any of their candidates any time soon. They are downright h**eful, rude, they love trying to hold up government in this country and no candidate will even go up that isn't far right enough.. there is no wiggle room with them. I'm a pacifist, a glass half full kind of person and I cannot deal with the paranoid psychosis I have been seeing from them.

Rumi the "Alinsky Conspiracy" is just that. But not as you suggest. It isn't technically a conspiracy because it is in black and white. It is right out in the open. Have you read Alinsky's Rules for Radical's? If not I suggest you make a concerted effort to do so. There you will discover what Ovomit and his minions are endeavoring to do to the USofA. And succeeding to a degree. It is not only frightening, it is chilling. After you have read it, if you do, then look at what is occurring in our homeland on a daily basis.

Gotcha again. :lol: It is lost, not loss. I'm glad you have a sense of humor as I am not denigrating you, just poking a little fun. Forgive me? :oops:

Dang, I just noticed that error in the midst of admiring my magnificent and sageous comments, which totally overwhelmed such a minor...yes, got me again! My plan: never comment on typos!

You may be the only one to believe me on this site that I never heard of Allinsky (it sounds more like a poker pseudonym than directions for a One World Government). I disappoint my liberal friends and totally aggravate my conservative friends. In my eyes, I am based in Christ, not politics. Most here readily and vehemently disagree: I am a prog or tadpole of said, a mindless minion. But you make an effort at communication and are not judgmental. Heck, that has nothing to do with it; for some unknown reason I respect your stance. You present as a good man.

Thanks again for another compliment. I shall try to not let it go to my head. LOL

While I respect other's opinions there are some who post on these forum's that I seriously doubt are their own opinions. They are too t***sparently L*****t talking points. There is no reason to engage them in debating anything. I think you may already know of whom I speak. Honest convictions I can handle. With that type of person one can have an honest exchange of viewpoints. The other type are so deeply embedded in ideology one cannot reason with them. 'Tis best to avoid and ignore them.

Dang, I just noticed that error in the midst of admiring my magnificent and (segacious) comments, which totally overwhelmed such a minor...yes, got me again! My plan: never comment on typos!

You may be the only one to believe me on this site that I never heard of Allinsky (it sounds more like a poker pseudonym than directions for a One World Government). I disappoint my liberal friends and totally aggravate my conservative friends. In my eyes, I am based in Christ, not politics. Most here readily and vehemently disagree: I am a prog or tadpole of said, a mindless minion. But you make an effort at communication and are not judgmental. Heck, that has nothing to do with it; for some unknown reason I respect your stance. You present as a good man.

I have been on this site for one day and I already can just see the typical hatred for anyone who isn't far right coming from the right on here. I am disappointed because I thought I finally might see some actual debate on here that was not the typical "everyone who doesn't h**e Obama is an i***t" chatter I am bored with. The Obama name variations that are all insults and the liberal h**e language I can see on the normal right wing h**e sights.
Here is my view.. and to let you know I am an Independent so...
To be so h**eful and degrading at all times to your elected President.. whether you agree with him or not.. is anti American. He is in office.. deal with it. Just like everyone on the other side has to deal with Presidents form your party. The constant attacks and separation and h**e towards all members of the other party is tearing this country apart, from the inside out. It is weakening us worse than any legislation could. Many people died to protect this democracy, so maybe stop being whiny babies about the fact that some one you don't like won but that a majority of the country apparently did think was leading this country in the right direction. And I can promise you many college educated people v**ed for this man because their was not another viable option who wouldn't untrude on their civil rights. Every President makes mistakes.. but this man needs to be able to run the country without having to deal with all of the crap being shoveled his way on a daily basis. Its more than a distraction. 40 times a v**e is called to repeal Obamacare knowing full well that even if you pass it there it will not get past the Senate or the President.. so how much time was wasted there? Yes you don't like Obamacare but there are many Americans who feel they need it, even if you don't see it. But lets waste more time. I watch a lot of CSPAN and nothing pisses me off more than seeing the right continue to waste time on crap that will never go anywhere just to prove a point that they don't like it.. petulant children. How about instead you work on something you can do effectively and work together on things you can agree on to run the country. Serve the people. Stop adding crap to bills that doesn't belong there... make a bill a bill instead of accepting handouts. Crazy idea what I am about to say I know but hear me out.. how about instead of wasting time fighting useless battles, you instead focus on how to make those things work for the people.. since after all that's your job. The next e******n will gauge where this country is.. but until then, suck it up. Work on finding a candidate that can appeal to the masses. There is right and there is left and then there is this HUGE group in the middle who is just waiting for a viable candidate from the right to appear.But its more rhetoric and more h**e and more attacks. The tea party has ruined the republican party. Until you guys start realizing that not everyone is like you and start figuring out why that might be.. you will not get a candidate into the oval office any time soon