rumitoid

This boundary dispute was decided years ago. It is history, no matter what some ill-informed conspiracy theorist claims.

Molly

They aren't l*****t.. they are AMERICAN. Work together, stop fighting. Agree to disagree when the policies aren't always what you may agree with, but that are legal. Do the work of the people instead of playing politics.. constantly. For instance.. if you even remotely look like you are willing to work with Obama or play a boardwalk game with him while you plead for assistance for your state.. you don't get invited to the Republican party. How is that l*****t and not in the best interests of this country. I love this country.. but I am not very proud of it right now.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

We are certainly NOT proud of the Manchurian Candidate that currently occupies the White House. He is doing everything in his power to destroy this Country. He bows to Sheik's, he lies, claiming four dead Americans in B******i is a "phony scandal", declares the IRS is a "phony scandal", Fast and Furious is a "phony scandal" plus numerous other peccadillo's during his "t***sformation" of America. Get real Molly, Ovomit is a disaster to our Country. And yes, I do use derogatory terms to describe him. There are no laudatory terms that are applicable. He is evil personified, even worse, if possible, than Billary who hopes to follow in his steps, God forbid.

Molly

Let me clear up the phony scandal misnomer. He isn't saying these things didn't happen.. its well documented that he has said they did. It's fact. The phony part refers to the conspiracies they have been made in to. They have been twisted and turned into these evil P**********l directives and instead of looking at the facts or seeing whats happened or why its gone down the way it has. Instead all these crazy theories get thrown out and people start jumping on the crazy train... So instead of being productive, you see using derogatory terms towards your President as a productive thing to do. It doesn't say much about you. Surely it doesn't even remotely look like you could handle rational conversation about how to move the country forward instead of tearing its President apart.. turning these things over and over and over instead of moving forward. Obviously he has made some bad choices and he surely isn't the leader people were hoping he would be.. but he is who we have. We have 3 more years... so where will we head as a country or will we continue to just tear each other apart and get nowhere? Thats disappointing.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

You are quite right regarding the "tearing each other apart". But, who is doing it? Why the "Divider in Chief", that's who. C'mon, remove the rose colored glasses and see what is really t***spiring in the country, primarily because of YOUR prez. While he may be prez he sure as 'ell doesn't represent me nor my ideals.

Molly

I am looking.. I am clearly not the one with the rose colored glasses... you see your side and your side only, you don't even stop to contemplate the other side. My guess is >90% of your news sources are biased and that you don't spend much time looking at things from the other side. I dig deep into both sides. I spent 3 hours today looking at stuff my dad gave me about B******i.. it was fascinating and there was some new info in there for me that I did fact check... but then it got to the end and it was conjecture. I spend time researching legislation, I watch the v**es in congress and the senate when I have the time. I listen to both sides. Do you?

justkillingtime

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??? American companies were moving offshore long before Obama was around. You are here for no other purpose than to argue and spew your semi-r****t political vitriole.

justkillingtime

Same here, although the people you are identifying as far right are not conservative at all. They don’t know the meaning of the term.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Absolutely Molly. I try to ascertain the true facts on any given subject. As for "biased sources" just who are your sources? I have an indication but will not say. That is for you to elaborate on.

With all due respect, I feel you are more inclined to believe in ideology as opposed to reality.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Neither of you has the vaguest clue what a conservative is, and probably don't know what a liberal is. These are terms that all of us use, and they don't mean squat in terms of reality.

As for philosophy and judging people's political stances, I use ONE gauge: does the person respect individual freedoms? If he doesn't, he is of no use to me. If he doesn't, he is dictator material. If he doesn't, he is into controlling others' lives.

The political left is totally into control. A small portion of the political right is also into control. Neither of them is anything like me or my friends and family, and I want neither of them dictating to me.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

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PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Why must you ideologues always inject r****m into a conversation? What did I say that even bordered on r****m?
Sheesh!

You are correct in that some companies had moved offshore prior to Ovomit's ascending to his fiefdom. But they really escalated after his ascendancy.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, Old_Gringo: Nice post. Here is some support:

rumitoid

I accept those terms, tasine. FREEDOM! Braveheart amplified. I see the Right doing what you accuse the Left of doing, looking for total control. Both sides seem to have loss sight of the ideals of this country, our unalienable rights. Teddy Roosevelt fought this and warned the country of this: Corporate Control. It is very real. I will go as far as to say that all this Allinsky Conspiracy talk is an Elitist plan to dupe the Right. Maybe. But all in Congress are being duped to some greater or lesser extent by their heavy supporters.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Rumi the "Alinsky Conspiracy" is just that. But not as you suggest. It isn't technically a conspiracy because it is in black and white. It is right out in the open. Have you read Alinsky's Rules for Radical's? If not I suggest you make a concerted effort to do so. There you will discover what Ovomit and his minions are endeavoring to do to the USofA. And succeeding to a degree. It is not only frightening, it is chilling. After you have read it, if you do, then look at what is occurring in our homeland on a daily basis.

Gotcha again. :lol: It is lost, not loss. I'm glad you have a sense of humor as I am not denigrating you, just poking a little fun. Forgive me? :oops: