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May 23, 2015 22:57:11   #
JW
 
straightUp wrote:
interesting...

Of course "under-pressure" means we can't count on his words being the honest words of a true journalist, but that hardly matters... I think the threat is very real. This is one of the reasons why I wish more Americans would make the effort to expand beyond their current concerns, which often glosses over things like, the birth-rate deficit and the dirty bomb.

If my theories are true, all this Islamophobia is falling right into the plans of those political enemies to exploit those touch points with the religious war. If you zoom out a little... you might notice that the money usually comes from the political war and the numbers come from the religious war. This changes only as a result of ransom money, or any other kind of forceful extortion the children of poverty can muster in the religious war. High finance through the Caymans... that's the political war.

Ya know, Having an angle on this mess that you aren't familiar with doesn't nessesarily make me your enemy. I don't want some crazy religious nuts assaulting me and my family with nuclear weapons. I don't know much about you, but when people see me, they think "American" right away. They don't care what I actually think. It's not like they're going to interview me.

"Excuse me but uh, we only have... 2 minutes before this vest blows us to shreads, so... tell me about yourself."

Nah.
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You are missing a rather significant angle. You might want check out how Islam is structured. Your contention that religious and political aspirations are separate entities is very Western and very naive. Learn about Islam before you write off that concern as Islmophobia.

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May 23, 2015 23:06:23   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
JW wrote:
You are missing a rather significant angle. You might want check out how Islam is structured. Your contention that religious and political aspirations are separate entities is very Western and very naive. Learn about Islam before you write off that concern as Islmophobia.
Excellent advice, JW.

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May 23, 2015 23:08:47   #
Yankee Clipper
 
straightUp wrote:
There we go Adolph, start removing people from the country. How shall we do it? Send the secret police to their houses in the dead of night and covertly steal them away, or should we execute them? I mean after all, they had an opinion, right? You may leave with them when they are escorted out. I never mentioned k*****g anyone, though it seems you are worried about it. You seem to support and agree with the Muslim's scurrilous religion and murderous actions. Oh, of course you are a l*****t and support such actions until it affects you. If they are allowed to stay and start on a k*****g rampage I can only hope your type are the first ones they get to. Wake up, these people have no intentions of adopting our culture and ways, their cult style religion does not allow it under penalty of death. Cut the insults and lay out your position in a rational way, maybe just maybe it would make sense.
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May 24, 2015 08:30:35   #
amvaap
 
I agree.
Yankee Clipper wrote:
I found this to be very interesting if for no other reason who the author of this article happens to be. It's time to start considering removing these people from this country.





http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/country-music-legend-islamists-always-provoked/

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May 24, 2015 10:24:20   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
JW wrote:
You are missing a rather significant angle. You might want check out how Islam is structured. Your contention that religious and political aspirations are separate entities is very Western and very naive. Learn about Islam before you write off that concern as Islmophobia.



I also agree with you, and "Straight up" is deceived. It took a lot of debating and I still don't think he got it. And half of the country is like minded like that. Ain't that disappointing for the future of our country.

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May 24, 2015 11:49:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
iFrank wrote:
I also agree with you, and "Straight up" is deceived. It took a lot of debating and I still don't think he got it. And half of the country is like minded like that. Ain't that disappointing for the future of our country.

I keep forgetting that you folks don't think for yourselves. I am reminded when I see how someone assumes I am "deceived". You think I get all this information the same way you do, by being told. But the theory I outlined comes from my own analysis, based on decades of following middle-eastern politics and about a year of seriously trying to understand Islam. It comes from listening to the enemy, people like bin Laden who laid it all out for us in an interview with CBS in the late 90's.

You're right about half the nation being like me... it's the half that functions on logic, the half that fixes problems, or at least tries. Your half functions on wh**ever your are told to believe. Obviously, that's modus operandi for this ridiculous need to get involved in a religious war that doesn't even concern us.

Good luck with that.

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May 24, 2015 11:59:07   #
JW
 
straightUp wrote:
I keep forgetting that you folks don't think for yourselves. I am reminded when I see how someone assumes I am "deceived". You think I get all this information the same way you do, by being told. But the theory I outlined comes from my own analysis, based on decades of following middle-eastern politics and about a year of seriously trying to understand Islam. It comes from listening to the enemy, people like bin Laden who laid it all out for us in an interview with CBS in the late 90's.

You're right about half the nation being like me... it's the half that functions on logic, the half that fixes problems, or at least tries. Your half functions on wh**ever your are told to believe. Obviously, that's modus operandi for this ridiculous need to get involved in a religious war that doesn't even concern us.

Good luck with that.
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Don't think much of yourself do you?

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May 24, 2015 12:02:54   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JW wrote:
You are missing a rather significant angle. You might want check out how Islam is structured. Your contention that religious and political aspirations are separate entities is very Western and very naive. Learn about Islam before you write off that concern as Islmophobia.

"Structure" - that's pretty vague. And BTW, I've already spent quite a bit of time learning about Islam. Of course I was learning through genuine sources, such as other Muslims, the Koran and a few visits to mosques. I bet you have done none of that. But you seem to be very well versed in all the "information" available on sites dedicated to hating Islam.

Unlike you, I am willing to learn. Why don't you briefly describe this structure to me so I don't have to wade through pages and pages of h**e site material? I was able to describe my theory to you. Can you not do the same for me?

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May 24, 2015 12:27:15   #
JW
 
straightUp wrote:
"Structure" - that's pretty vague. And BTW, I've already spent quite a bit of time learning about Islam. Of course I was learning through genuine sources, such as other Muslims, the Koran and a few visits to mosques. I bet you have done none of that. But you seem to be very well versed in all the "information" available on sites dedicated to hating Islam.

Unlike you, I am willing to learn. Why don't you briefly describe this structure to me so I don't have to wade through pages and pages of h**e site material? I was able to describe my theory to you. Can you not do the same for me?
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Unlike you, I am able to learn. Perhaps it is because I am not so blindly in love with myself that other opinions seem worthy of consideration.

I have been studying Islam for 15 years now and even have my own copy of the Qur'an, if you can imagine that. Had you really been studying Islam, you would have mentioned the hadiths since they have more impact on Muslims than even does the Holy Qur'an.

And yes, I can make it easier for you but I'm not going to waste much time since you have already made clear that you are your only serious source.

Islam is a political system. It is designed for one purpose only and that is to dominate. Islam means submit in Arabic. It is a verb, not a noun. The religious aspects of Islam are designed to facilitate the operation of the political entity. The religion is a tool of the political organization.

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May 24, 2015 13:36:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
I keep forgetting that you folks don't think for yourselves. I am reminded when I see how someone assumes I am "deceived". You think I get all this information the same way you do, by being told. But the theory I outlined comes from my own analysis, based on decades of following middle-eastern politics and about a year of seriously trying to understand Islam. It comes from listening to the enemy, people like bin Laden who laid it all out for us in an interview with CBS in the late 90's.

You're right about half the nation being like me... it's the half that functions on logic, the half that fixes problems, or at least tries. Your half functions on wh**ever your are told to believe. Obviously, that's modus operandi for this ridiculous need to get involved in a religious war that doesn't even concern us.

Good luck with that.
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So, you're in the "half" that fixes problems, hey? OK, so when are you going to get with the program?

Good place to start would dialing back that over-inflated ego and dumping a sh!tload of hubris.

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May 24, 2015 13:52:41   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Worried for our children wrote:
"The fact is you insulted the prophet Muhammad … and you knew the consequences,” Choudary said.



This quote is from the article. And my first thought was... but "piss christ" is ok? If I'm not mistaken, it was even celebrated with an award.

"consequences" ???? Wtf is that all about?

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May 24, 2015 14:04:35   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
I found this to be very interesting if for no other reason who the author of this article happens to be. It's time to start considering removing these people from this country.


http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/country-music-legend-islamists-always-provoked/


At the heart of Charlie Daniels piece is the question of an intolerant philospohy in a tolerant society. We never completely resolved it with c*******m. I think this is even a thornier question but I agree with Daniels & what a great fiddler.



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May 24, 2015 16:40:45   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Tyster wrote:
Anywhere else would suit me! Maybe there is somewhere we can send all who practice intolerance.

As to your other comments...many we are not that far apart about, but I did want to comment on your remark about Pam Geller's incendiary actions. Was she seeking to mock Mohammed the prophet... or the intolerance of his followers? Personally, my feeling is that it is the latter point she was attempting to make.

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I disagree with you as far as Gellar's choice of subject. If it were just cartoons the competition was held for, it would not be incendiary. But the subject matter she chose was definitely directed to another's choice of faith. It was an intentional attack on all Muslims. One who would do such things publicly, and on a grand scale, is evil and inciting unrest between the faiths. She obviously intended this "contest" as an insult.

You recommend people who don't agree with your outlook leave this country. I do suggest you do exactly that. We don't need any more biased people like you as your ilk claim to be the only people who should occupy this nation. Isn't this what the Evangelical population and political force working toward?

There are Muslims who have been living here for generations and are "good" American citizens. Like the Jews, I don't see them creating incidents that would result in retribution. It seems to be only the Fundamentalists who show intolerance that are working toward the separation of the American people. Even though their ideas are definitely against the Constitution, they keep on working toward that end. The U.S. IS NOT a Christian nation! :!: :!: :!: :!:

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May 24, 2015 17:40:10   #
Yankee Clipper
 
rodericktbeaman wrote:
At the heart of Charlie Daniels piece is the question of an intolerant philospohy in a tolerant society. We never completely resolved it with c*******m. I think this is even a thornier question but I agree with Daniels & what a great fiddler.



:-) :-o :? :!: :D


"the question of an intolerant philospohy in a tolerant society. We never completely resolved it with c*******m." Good response and one I have really never gave much thought.

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May 24, 2015 17:53:40   #
Yankee Clipper
 
Alicia wrote:
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I disagree with you as far as Gellar's choice of subject. If it were just cartoons the competition was held for, it would not be incendiary. But the subject matter she chose was definitely directed to another's choice of faith. It was an intentional attack on all Muslims. Perhaps the Muslim cult is a bit thin skinned, don't you think. Maybe you need to have your clitoris burnt out with a red hot poker and be beat every day just for the fun of it, or maybe stoned to death before you realize how evil this cult or culture is.One who would do such things publicly, and on a grand scale, is evil and inciting unrest between the faiths. She obviously intended this "contest" as an insult.

You recommend people who don't agree with your outlook leave this country. I do suggest you do exactly that. We don't need any more biased people like you as your ilk claim to be the only people who should occupy this nation. Isn't this what the Evangelical population and political force working toward? I think you should consider moving to the heart of the Middle East and deal with this docile religion of peace and harmony.

There are Muslims who have been living here for generations and are "good" American citizens. Like the Jews, I don't see them creating incidents that would result in retribution. It seems to be only the Fundamentalists who show intolerance that are working toward the separation of the American people. Even though their ideas are definitely against the Constitution, they keep on working toward that end. The U.S. IS NOT a Christian nation! :!: :!: :!: :!:
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I guess you are completely unawares of the honor k*****g that happen quit often all accross this nation, by these wonderful Muslims amongst us.

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