Tyster wrote:
You may be correct in suggesting that removing someone for their opinion is Un-American, but you echoed the reactionary sentiment with one of your own. Equating one's desire to not tolerate anti-social behavior with that of recent history's most vile statesman is jumping on the extreme reaction yourself.
I think you're stretching... First of all, I'm not equating one's desire to not tolerate anti-social behavior with anything. I'm equating one's desire to deny a harmless personal opinion to THE archetype of tyranny. Describing Pam Geller as incendiary is certainly not anti-social behavior, sponsoring a contest to see who can best insult the second largest religion in the world is.
Tyster wrote:
If someone comes to our shores, they are either a visitor or have met qualifications to remain in this country. However, if they are going to abuse our freedoms to the extent that they threaten another's life, liberty or their pursuit of happiness, then their "permission" to remain in this country should be placed in jeopardy.
If they are visitors yes. If they are resident, then they should be handled by our system the same way any natural-born American that threatens the lives, liberty or pursuit of happiness of others.
Tyster wrote:
For those that have developed these attitudes and were "home-grown" so to speak, there still have to be limitations where the "exercising of their rights" infringes on the exercise of others. I find the burning of a US f**g repugnant, and the display of the Christian cross in urine to be d********g, but I cannot deny your right to express those sentiments should you choose to do so. It has been long accepted that patriots and Christians must accept ridicule as part of our freedoms in this great country.
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Not just "patriots" and Christians... EVERYONE has to accept ridicule as part of the freedoms in any of the great countries that have them.
Tyster wrote:
The sad thing is that we now identify certain groups and brand them untouchable...
That's a dramatic exaggeration.
Tyster wrote:
it is somehow abhorrent to draw a cartoon that may lampoon a religious icon of one sect, while mercilessly depicting the icons of another.
I don't quite understand how a cartoon can be so offensive either. But then again, I don't see the big deal with a burning f**g. You do, so I would think you would understand the Muslim offense to the cartoons better than I can.
Tyster wrote:
We get in a tizzy when a Christian pizza maker indicates they wouldn't be comfortable catering a Gay wedding, but completely ignore at least 3 Muslim bakeries that flatly refused a like service.
Who is "we"? *I* didn't get in a tizzy when that Christian pizza maker refused to cater to a gay wedding. I think he's a dick but I also think he has the right as a business owner to refuse service. It's not like there isn't a million other pizza places to choose from. I feel the same way about the Muslim bakeries. If they refuse service, it's their right. They might be dicks for doing it, but they have that right.
Tyster wrote:
Either all viewpoints and religions are afforded the same protections or none should be expected to be protected.
I agree. Fortunately, the U.S. Constitution recommends the later... Basically the idea is that the government shall make no laws respecting the establishment of religion.
Tyster wrote:
If you don't support my right to express myself, how long will it be until you lose your rights? If these standards of behavior do not meet with acceptance, then maybe those who are intolerant should be encouraged to find a home more attune to their ideals.
So what places would you recommend for intolerant Christians?