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Aug 3, 2013 11:37:17   #
TheCracker
 
RETW wrote:
To you sir, I am honored to speak.

It should go with-out saying, we are all safer in our homes because of the sacrifice that has been made on our nations behalf, by the members of all the armed services. What each and every one of you has done for our country is a true testament to the sk**l and bravery of you all. And it is with a heavy heart I must admit, that in part I believe you to be correct. I know, and do completely understand what it is that you have testified to in you statement.
But I do not believe our citizens at large, joined by our military, should in no way take up arms to dispel an administration that is inept, and misguided as this one we now have in charge of the country. Blood spilled by American's, for American's, is never, and should never be the answer. That sir is why we have a Constitution along with the Bill of Rights. I do so applaud you for your recognition that our country is in numerous difficulties, in many aspects of our government. I to, am as frustrated as you appear to be. But I beg you, take a step back, and let our justice system work. It will, of that I am sure. It's not going to be as fast as a lot of us would wish. But it will work. May God bless you and all in the military,who serve our great country. RETW
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Aug 3, 2013 13:18:54   #
Noahsgrammie
 
Tasine wrote:
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I once thought as you do. I learned some things and now respectfully disagree with you. Additionally I think it is disingenuous of you to use hyperbole in misstating what US Patriot wrote, such as "If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether."

I must have missed him saying that. I don't believe any decent person wants to do that.

It is true the Constitution has built in safety factors, but every one of them demands honesty, decency, and knowledge in both our politicians and the v**ers. No politician is doing what he should be doing, the SCOTUS is not doing what it is required to do, the media is not doing what it is charged with doing, and the non-informed v**ers are electing rotten humans into office. Our b****t box is terminally corrupted and is totally unreliable. Since all of the Constitution's built-in protections are failing BIG TIME, and since our forefathers KNEW it would happen once people learned how to game the system, and advised that from time to time, blood would have to be spilled, how can you sit there and lecture US Patriot for wanting to straighten out the mess, NOT THE MISTAKES, of a rotten leader and Congress?

You say, " And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. " It is not pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution - it is destroying our Constitution and doing so deliberately. If you cannot see the destruction that is occurring, it is merely because you don't want to, you support this misuse of the Presidency because you want the man to succeed. He IS succeeding - it's just that his success sets this nation back decades and decades, we are rapidly losing all of our God given rights because Obama's total and complete agenda is all about control of the masses.

I do not understand people like you at all - and don't want to........you do not do logic, yet have the gall to denigrate those who see what is being done to this nation all for the sake of you and your kind (socialists) wanting to make Obama look like something he definitely ISN'T - a leader.

If I have misrepresented you in any way, I apologize ahead of time. I am definitely angry and could have accused you of something you may wish to straighten out. But pie in the sky won't do it.
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Tisine, you hit the nail right square on the head and bud if it hurt GOOD! We are tired of hearing you cry because you don't think you are getting your fair share, because we don't love your imperial hine...A** enough, the main word being 'hine....A**!!! When every thing & every one in the system is corrupt it's time for the people to stand up for themselves and say, NOT TODAY! NO MORE! And then actually fight for what we what, fight to remove the bums from our offices and most of all from our White House!

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Aug 3, 2013 14:01:08   #
Homestead
 
RETW wrote:
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wrong as wrong could be.
If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether. There are safeguards built into our system that say to [ all ]. If you don't like what, or how, are government is being run. We as citizens can change that. You believe in the Constitution, or you don't, Their is no splitting hairs on this point.

What I see going on in our country as far as the Government goes is this . Here we have an administration, that is most unpopular at this time. And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. That sir is what the ( great experiment )
is all about. I truly believe if you want to see it succeed, then work with it. Truly understand its constructs. Work within the framework that it was written to maintain. Never forget that this most sacred document, was written for all the people. By the people. And it is in our hands, that we now hold this.

No sir , I am not wrong. I will not take the sacrifice of the last 230 years, fighting for this Constitution, and just now toss it aside because you do not like what's going on at the moment.

If we want the bums out. V**e them out. Don't just talk about it. Go do something about. As I have said. I truly admire your personal sacrifice for our country. But patriotism is not a do it when you file like it construct.

It's a 24-7 event that is in our face each and every day. I liken it to a hearth in a eighteen hundreds home on a cold winters day. You either maintain it, or you freeze and die.

It's your choice. I hope you choose wisely.
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wro... (show quote)


Obama has not pushed up to the limits of the Constitution, he has gone way beyond the boundaries to the point where the Constitution is no longer in effect, that is not being, "unpopular," that is an usurpation of power and that is t****y and that is treason.
That is not working within the framework of the Constitution, that is well outside the framework.

Here's a partial list of his Constitutional violations:

Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.


23 Executive Orders on gun control - infringement of the 2nd Amendment
Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.

Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything

Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.

Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment

DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.

Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated

Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade

Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment

Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)

Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.

Obamacare mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority.

Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment

Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers

Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare

Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.

Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.

Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.

With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. Violation of 4th Amendment.

Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.

The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.
_______________________________________________________________
A List of Obama’s Constitutional Violations
http://tisaboutfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/a-list-of-obamas-constitutional-violations/
_______________________________________________________________________

Now let's get into the fact that Obama himself is a fraud and imposter and has no right to be president. He has committed at least three felonies hiding his identity from the public.

Here are the latest updates:
Team Arpaio: Rep. Stockman Meeting; Federal Law Violated In Obama ID Fraud Scandal
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/team-arpaio-federal-law-violated-in-obama-fraud.html

Gallups: Rep. Steve Stockman Reschedules Obama ID Fraud Interview; Mike Zullo Takes Spot
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/carl-gallups-rep-stockman-interview.html

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: There's No Doubt Obama Birth Certificate Forged; Rep. Stockman On Board?
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/sheriff-joe-no-...

Team Arpaio: Ties To White House Now Involved; Obama BC Weapon of Mass Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agqyxizoKtY&feature=player_embedded

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Aug 3, 2013 17:21:44   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
Quib Pro Quo-It is solely because of the l*****t's "Socialist Agenda": that this country is becoming just another turd floating in the cesspool of the socialist Manifesto of this world. The Capitalistic way of America is being torn apart by the "hands out" attitude of the Democratic(socialist) Party.
Tasine wrote:
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I once thought as you do. I learned some things and now respectfully disagree with you. Additionally I think it is disingenuous of you to use hyperbole in misstating what US Patriot wrote, such as "If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether."

I must have missed him saying that. I don't believe any decent person wants to do that.

It is true the Constitution has built in safety factors, but every one of them demands honesty, decency, and knowledge in both our politicians and the v**ers. No politician is doing what he should be doing, the SCOTUS is not doing what it is required to do, the media is not doing what it is charged with doing, and the non-informed v**ers are electing rotten humans into office. Our b****t box is terminally corrupted and is totally unreliable. Since all of the Constitution's built-in protections are failing BIG TIME, and since our forefathers KNEW it would happen once people learned how to game the system, and advised that from time to time, blood would have to be spilled, how can you sit there and lecture US Patriot for wanting to straighten out the mess, NOT THE MISTAKES, of a rotten leader and Congress?

You say, " And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. " It is not pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution - it is destroying our Constitution and doing so deliberately. If you cannot see the destruction that is occurring, it is merely because you don't want to, you support this misuse of the Presidency because you want the man to succeed. He IS succeeding - it's just that his success sets this nation back decades and decades, we are rapidly losing all of our God given rights because Obama's total and complete agenda is all about control of the masses.

I do not understand people like you at all - and don't want to........you do not do logic, yet have the gall to denigrate those who see what is being done to this nation all for the sake of you and your kind (socialists) wanting to make Obama look like something he definitely ISN'T - a leader.

If I have misrepresented you in any way, I apologize ahead of time. I am definitely angry and could have accused you of something you may wish to straighten out. But pie in the sky won't do it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br I once thought as you do. I... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2013 19:16:20   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Tasine wrote:
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I once thought as you do. I learned some things and now respectfully disagree with you. Additionally I think it is disingenuous of you to use hyperbole in misstating what US Patriot wrote, such as "If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether."

I must have missed him saying that. I don't believe any decent person wants to do that.

It is true the Constitution has built in safety factors, but every one of them demands honesty, decency, and knowledge in both our politicians and the v**ers. No politician is doing what he should be doing, the SCOTUS is not doing what it is required to do, the media is not doing what it is charged with doing, and the non-informed v**ers are electing rotten humans into office. Our b****t box is terminally corrupted and is totally unreliable. Since all of the Constitution's built-in protections are failing BIG TIME, and since our forefathers KNEW it would happen once people learned how to game the system, and advised that from time to time, blood would have to be spilled, how can you sit there and lecture US Patriot for wanting to straighten out the mess, NOT THE MISTAKES, of a rotten leader and Congress?

You say, " And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. " It is not pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution - it is destroying our Constitution and doing so deliberately. If you cannot see the destruction that is occurring, it is merely because you don't want to, you support this misuse of the Presidency because you want the man to succeed. He IS succeeding - it's just that his success sets this nation back decades and decades, we are rapidly losing all of our God given rights because Obama's total and complete agenda is all about control of the masses.

I do not understand people like you at all - and don't want to........you do not do logic, yet have the gall to denigrate those who see what is being done to this nation all for the sake of you and your kind (socialists) wanting to make Obama look like something he definitely ISN'T - a leader.

If I have misrepresented you in any way, I apologize ahead of time. I am definitely angry and could have accused you of something you may wish to straighten out. But pie in the sky won't do it.
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Tasine

I am very surprised at you. For just like US Patriot, you have missed my points altogether. So let me take this time to answer your main point. And perhaps I can enlighten you along the way.

Your use of the term ( hyperbole ) is quite wrong concerning what the patriot has said, in conjunction with my interpretation of it.
What the patriot has said, and let me quote him here in this, ( Am I advocating
Civil war! If that’s what it will take to save America! YES! ). Again, ( Now is the time for action). Also, ( The time for these discussion sights has long gone ).

He has also said something very enlightening in his post. Again I will quote him. ( just one very pissed-off
Patriotic American ).
Frankly, this should have been your clue as to what in fact he is saying. As well as the reason behind it.
Now you, along with the Patriot, can spin this any way you so choose. What I have said, still remains very much true.

Advocating civil war is not stupid or wrong. It has gone way beyond that.

Understand this!
Civil; war entails guns, big guns, and a lot of them. The general population does not have big guns. Now I am quite aware that most folks have what is considered to be small arms. And they should. But I have yet to see a small arm weapon, win, when put up against a tank.
Now the last I checked, The general population does not have them.
[ Oh Oh wait Mr. John q public,
I’ll just go into my garage and bring one right out to you ] A-ha right.

I hope you are starting to get the picture.
For not only does civil war entail guns, it also advocates the use of deadly force.
K*****g of another human sole. And in this case, it will be in fact, your neighbor, or you. All government employees are our neighbors. A great many of them are, our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, ants , uncles, cosines, nieces or nephews, and so on. They may not agree with you, and there outlook is not the same as yours or mine. US Patriot is saying I should go out there and shoot them, because I don’t like the way they handle our government. No, No, No,
I will not do that just because he wants to. Stating that in so many words, all else has failed, and there is no other way.

Bull S**t I say, that’s madness. This country has not even begun to fight and already you two want to through in the towel.
Now let me put this right up on the table You have said, and again I quote, you.
( I don’t believe any decent person wants to do that). Meaning I assume, you do not agree with the use of weapons.
News flash for you . That’s exactly what civil war is all about. Whose got the bigger stick . And who can beat each other over the head with it, the most.
You can have civil un-rest, civil disobedience, civil discourse, civil disturbance. But civil war is another matter.
You have said you ( respectfully disagree with me). Fine, if that is your choice, I will not fault you for that.
But for you to say that I am disingenuous, have no logic, and the gall to denigrate a person, along with accusing me of being a socialist is nothing more than a slap in my face.

Any one that is at all familiar with me, knows better. All any one needs do, is look at my posts on this sight, and if by this time you do not know where I stand, than you haven’t been paying attention.

You can disagree with all you want, call me wh**ever it is you have a mind to. And you may never agree with me. But that my dear friend does not in any way tell me, I should pick up a gun and shoot you.
Were on the same side Tasine. You have just failed to recognize it. RETW

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Aug 3, 2013 19:45:57   #
TheCracker
 
Might The C*****r suggest another course of action.

Instead of taking on our own military in a civil war, why not do like Egypt and turn the military to our side. They can pull that off overnight and will only use a little fuel driving their Abrams in place, and flying a few hundred Apache helicopters over our heads.

Let them understand that the patriotic citizens will support them if they depose the tyrants from our midst.

Would that not be great? Just as long as they do not want to hold forever, the power themselves.

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Aug 3, 2013 20:03:01   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
TheC*****r wrote:
Might The C*****r suggest another course of action.

Instead of taking on our own military in a civil war, why not do like Egypt and turn the military to our side. They can pull that off overnight and will only use a little fuel driving their Abrams in place, and flying a few hundred Apache helicopters over our heads.

Let them understand that the patriotic citizens will support them if they depose the tyrants from our midst.

Would that not be great? Just as long as they do not want to hold forever, the power themselves.
Might The C*****r suggest another course of action... (show quote)


]With that I hole-heartedly agree

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Aug 3, 2013 20:53:48   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Homestead wrote:
Obama has not pushed up to the limits of the Constitution, he has gone way beyond the boundaries to the point where the Constitution is no longer in effect, that is not being, "unpopular," that is an usurpation of power and that is t****y and that is treason.
That is not working within the framework of the Constitution, that is well outside the framework.

Here's a partial list of his Constitutional violations:

Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.


23 Executive Orders on gun control - infringement of the 2nd Amendment
Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.

Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything

Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress

Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.

Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment

DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.

Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated

Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade

Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment

Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)

Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.

Obamacare mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority.

Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment

Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers

Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare

Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.

Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.

Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.

With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. Violation of 4th Amendment.

Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.

The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.
_______________________________________________________________
A List of Obama’s Constitutional Violations
http://tisaboutfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/a-list-of-obamas-constitutional-violations/
_______________________________________________________________________

Now let's get into the fact that Obama himself is a fraud and imposter and has no right to be president. He has committed at least three felonies hiding his identity from the public.

Here are the latest updates:
Team Arpaio: Rep. Stockman Meeting; Federal Law Violated In Obama ID Fraud Scandal
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/team-arpaio-federal-law-violated-in-obama-fraud.html

Gallups: Rep. Steve Stockman Reschedules Obama ID Fraud Interview; Mike Zullo Takes Spot
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/carl-gallups-rep-stockman-interview.html

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: There's No Doubt Obama Birth Certificate Forged; Rep. Stockman On Board?
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/sheriff-joe-no-...

Team Arpaio: Ties To White House Now Involved; Obama BC Weapon of Mass Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agqyxizoKtY&feature=player_embedded
Obama has not pushed up to the limits of the Const... (show quote)


I am well aware what you have posted [Homestead].

And I am in complete agreement with you on this subject.
What I take issue with you is, I am not in favor of taking on a full scale battle with our government to oust this fool president an his administration. No sir, that is not the way to go. My own personal feeling is this.
I do not know if this could be done or not, but hears goes. Some one in authority, should be able to find a judge or two, that will be willing to issue some kind of legal document. And this document should state among other tings, that Obama and his administration are in civil violation of there oath of office. Specify which ones. Get together with the US Marshalls office in conjunction with the Sargent at arms, and deliver them. If then, at that time, they will not remove themselves from office, Take them to jail. Bear in mind there needs be someone to fill in until a general e******n can be held. And that should be sooner, rather than later. As I have said. I am in no way
going to, or comfortable with, taking up arms against my government. But it does seem to me this could be done. I could be all wet also. I'm just saying. RETW

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Aug 3, 2013 21:20:03   #
REALLY
 
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by mistake. I thought it was a site for reasoned discourse, not bigots whose thought process is of the same mentality of the "no moon landing conspir****ts" and the writing and spelling ability of a 5 year old. There, There, (orper the posts Their, There and They're). The only "V***r F***d" committed on the last 20 years was Bush/Gore and the Florida debacle. If "mass v***r f***d" was committed am I supposed believe that there is "NOT one politician" who will stand up and say it when the powers that be are the same, legislatively and judicially as they were during the previous administration? Puhleeze. I will check out a couple of other "discussions but anticipate fleeing this ignorant and conspiracy nut laden discussion ASAp

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Aug 3, 2013 22:21:33   #
TheCracker
 
REALLY wrote:
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by mistake. I thought it was a site for reasoned discourse, not bigots whose thought process is of the same mentality of the "no moon landing conspir****ts" and the writing and spelling ability of a 5 year old. There, There, (orper the posts Their, There and They're). The only "V***r F***d" committed on the last 20 years was Bush/Gore and the Florida debacle. If "mass v***r f***d" was committed am I supposed believe that there is "NOT one politician" who will stand up and say it when the powers that be are the same, legislatively and judicially as they were during the previous administration? Puhleeze. I will check out a couple of other "discussions but anticipate fleeing this ignorant and conspiracy nut laden discussion ASAp
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by m... (show quote)


I am sure you will be missed. Watch that rear door so that it does not kick you in your arse on the way out.

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Aug 3, 2013 22:28:42   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
REALLY wrote:
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by mistake. I thought it was a site for reasoned discourse, not bigots whose thought process is of the same mentality of the "no moon landing conspir****ts" and the writing and spelling ability of a 5 year old. There, There, (orper the posts Their, There and They're). The only "V***r F***d" committed on the last 20 years was Bush/Gore and the Florida debacle. If "mass v***r f***d" was committed am I supposed believe that there is "NOT one politician" who will stand up and say it when the powers that be are the same, legislatively and judicially as they were during the previous administration? Puhleeze. I will check out a couple of other "discussions but anticipate fleeing this ignorant and conspiracy nut laden discussion ASAp
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by m... (show quote)


Please do let the door, kick you in the ass as you depart.

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Aug 3, 2013 22:29:38   #
Homestead
 
RETW wrote:
I am well aware what you have posted [Homestead].

And I am in complete agreement with you on this subject.
What I take issue with you is, I am not in favor of taking on a full scale battle with our government to oust this fool president an his administration. No sir, that is not the way to go. My own personal feeling is this.
I do not know if this could be done or not, but hears goes. Some one in authority, should be able to find a judge or two, that will be willing to issue some kind of legal document. And this document should state among other tings, that Obama and his administration are in civil violation of there oath of office. Specify which ones. Get together with the US Marshalls office in conjunction with the Sargent at arms, and deliver them. If then, at that time, they will not remove themselves from office, Take them to jail. Bear in mind there needs be someone to fill in until a general e******n can be held. And that should be sooner, rather than later. As I have said. I am in no way
going to, or comfortable with, taking up arms against my government. But it does seem to me this could be done. I could be all wet also. I'm just saying. RETW
I am well aware what you have posted Homestead ... (show quote)


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First off, you just don't arrest the president of the United States.
The legitimacy, of the presidency, of the United States, is the responsibility off Congress. That's what's written in the Constitution. That's the law. For Congress to act, they have to convene a Congressional Hearing. Obama's fate will depend on the outcome of those hearings.

Our duly elected Congressmen have been told, that if they pursue justice and uphold the law, their sworn to uphold, they can consider their political careers, as over. On top of that, there are rummers that our representatives lives have been threatened if they continue to seek the t***h.

This is what the investigating officers are up against, right now. Despite that, the law is the law, they were sworn to uphold it and that's exactly what they intend to do.

Our government is already under attack, the question is, by who?
Fortunately for us there are individuals that have sworn an oath to protect this country and uphold the Constitution, so help them God. They took that oath because they meant it. They swore their life on it and before they're done some of them may very well lose it. They already stopped one bomb threat that was headed for Sheriff Arpia.


It is the individual states that are responsible for determining the eligibility of any candidate, in any e******n and that includes the e******ns for the presidency of the United States.
In Arizona, after three years of complaining, 250 citizens of Arizona gave a petition signed by them to the Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpia and asked him to investigate their claims that Obama violated Arizona law by providing forged documents to qualify for his candidacy, in the p**********l e******n in Arizona.

As citizens they had the right and duty to ask for his birth certificate and Selective Service Card to be authenticated.
The Sheriff had a right and a duty to respond to the demands of the citizens of his jurisdiction, to try and clear those documents.
The following investigation did not clear those documents, in fact the more they investigated the more problems they found.
After two years of investigating, the documents have been proven, to court room standards, to be complete and utter forgeries.
Further more these forged documents are the only documents that Obama has provided to prove his identity.
The investigators cannot find any certifiable papers to prove that the people Obama calls his parents are in fact his parents. Whether or not they are is immaterial, there is no evidence to prove it. There is no evidence that Obama was born in America and after two years of investigation there is a lot of evidence that indicates that he was not.


Since when, do you call demanding, that individuals that hold public office, follow the laws they are sworn to uphold, "a full scale battle with our government?"

The crimes that Obama has committed, just to get elected, are felonies. Since his e******n, he has used the office of the presidency to cover up his crimes, that's an obstruction of justice, another felony. This is just for starters, never mind what he's done in office.

Talking up arms will not be necessary, if we do as our law enforcement has asked us to do.

The media is covering up for Obama by hiding and minimizing his crimes. They have been successful in keeping a very large portion of the American population ignorant. We as citizens must take it upon ourselves and spread the word on how serious this is.
The second thing they asked for was donations so that they could buy the air time needed to bring attention to the Congressional Hearings when they are happening.
At this point the biggest danger is that when these hearings take place, the Congress will have them behind closed doors and they will be over and nothing will be done. This is the one thing that cannot happen and it has nothing to do with guns.

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Aug 3, 2013 22:35:41   #
Homestead
 
REALLY wrote:
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by mistake. I thought it was a site for reasoned discourse, not bigots whose thought process is of the same mentality of the "no moon landing conspir****ts" and the writing and spelling ability of a 5 year old. There, There, (orper the posts Their, There and They're). The only "V***r F***d" committed on the last 20 years was Bush/Gore and the Florida debacle. If "mass v***r f***d" was committed am I supposed believe that there is "NOT one politician" who will stand up and say it when the powers that be are the same, legislatively and judicially as they were during the previous administration? Puhleeze. I will check out a couple of other "discussions but anticipate fleeing this ignorant and conspiracy nut laden discussion ASAp
Wow! I just subscribed to this site obviously by m... (show quote)


I'm really sorry to see you go.
I was so looking forward to you insulting me.

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Aug 3, 2013 23:00:25   #
REALLY
 
Very nice. You must be a great parent, work associate and generally great guy. I may flee this wasteland of reason. Since I led your particular brand of offensive ignorance, I checked out a couple of spots that still have one or two non-bigots and KKK members posting. I may just stick around to torture you.

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Aug 4, 2013 00:07:49   #
Homestead
 
REALLY wrote:
Very nice. You must be a great parent, work associate and generally great guy. I may flee this wasteland of reason. Since I led your particular brand of offensive ignorance, I checked out a couple of spots that still have one or two non-bigots and KKK members posting. I may just stick around to torture you.


Suit yourself, just remember:
Judge not, for as yee judge, so shall yee be judged.

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