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Jul 30, 2013 17:52:54   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
As a military vet with over 20 years of active service this is a very difficult subject for me. I swore an oath to this country when I went into the service and will honor it until I die. But, part of the oath I swore to uphold was, "to protect and defend this country from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic". This President and current Administration are the greatest threat to the freedoms and liberty of this country that it has EVER seen. As an American and a Patriot, it is my duty and all Americans duty to fight and defeat this "enemy of the State" with everything we have. Am I advocating civil war? If that is what it will take to save America! Yes!
Some will say that I am "nuts", just another crazy vet! Not at all!
Just one very pissed-off Patriotic American who is seeing the country he loves destroyed before his eyes! Now is the time for Action! The time for these discussion sights has long gone. All true Americans need to stand together and make it very clear under no circumstances are we going to allow Obama and his cronies to destroy America any more!
As a military vet with over 20 years of active ser... (show quote)


To you sir, I am honored to speak.

It should go with-out saying, we are all safer in our homes because of the sacrifice that has been made on our nations behalf, by the members of all the armed services. What each and every one of you has done for our country is a true testament to the sk**l and bravery of you all. And it is with a heavy heart I must admit, that in part I believe you to be correct. I know, and do completely understand what it is that you have testified to in you statement.
But I do not believe our citizens at large, joined by our military, should in no way take up arms to dispel an administration that is inept, and misguided as this one we now have in charge of the country. Blood spilled by American's, for American's, is never, and should never be the answer. That sir is why we have a Constitution along with the Bill of Rights. I do so applaud you for your recognition that our country is in numerous difficulties, in many aspects of our government. I to, am as frustrated as you appear to be. But I beg you, take a step back, and let our justice system work. It will, of that I am sure. It's not going to be as fast as a lot of us would wish. But it will work. May God bless you and all in the military,who serve our great country. RETW

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Jul 30, 2013 18:46:49   #
83footsailor
 
Try V***R F***D - people v****g 5 or 10 times in the same e******n. That is how they had so many v**es on their side of the isle.

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Jul 30, 2013 21:15:49   #
Homestead
 
RETW wrote:
To you sir, I am honored to speak.

It should go with-out saying, we are all safer in our homes because of the sacrifice that has been made on our nations behalf, by the members of all the armed services. What each and every one of you has done for our country is a true testament to the sk**l and bravery of you all. And it is with a heavy heart I must admit, that in part I believe you to be correct. I know, and do completely understand what it is that you have testified to in you statement.
But I do not believe our citizens at large, joined by our military, should in no way take up arms to dispel an administration that is inept, and misguided as this one we now have in charge of the country. Blood spilled by American's, for American's, is never, and should never be the answer. That sir is why we have a Constitution along with the Bill of Rights. I do so applaud you for your recognition that our country is in numerous difficulties, in many aspects of our government. I to, am as frustrated as you appear to be. But I beg you, take a step back, and let our justice system work. It will, of that I am sure. It's not going to be as fast as a lot of us would wish. But it will work. May God bless you and all in the military,who serve our great country. RETW
To you sir, I am honored to speak. br br It shoul... (show quote)


Oh, don't worry. Obama won't be sending the American military to k**l Americans. He's already made arrangements with foreign troops to do that.

JULY 2013: America Martial Law: Foreign Troops Arrive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jeG6_qPw8


Why Foreign Troops and DHS Vehicles Across USA
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/why-foreign-troops-and-dhs-vehicles-across-usa-2585024.html


U.S. Military Grants Itself the Authority to Deploy Troops in American Cities Without P**********l or Local Approval
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/u-s-military-grants-itself-the-authority-to-deploy-troops-in-american-cities-without-p**********l-or-local-approval_052013

FULL INTERVIEW- VA Psychiatrist Exposes National Gun Confiscation Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppVC6cTpxY


Obama Reported to be Dismissing Military Leaders Who Will Not Fire on Civilians if Ordered
http://www.tpnn.com/obama-reported-to-be-dismissing-military-leaders-who-will-not-fire-on-civilians-if-ordered/

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Jul 31, 2013 00:47:16   #
Noahsgrammie
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
As a military vet with over 20 years of active service this is a very difficult subject for me. I swore an oath to this country when I went into the service and will honor it until I die. But, part of the oath I swore to uphold was, "to protect and defend this country from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic". This President and current Administration are the greatest threat to the freedoms and liberty of this country that it has EVER seen. As an American and a Patriot, it is my duty and all Americans duty to fight and defeat this "enemy of the State" with everything we have. Am I advocating civil war? If that is what it will take to save America! Yes!
Some will say that I am "nuts", just another crazy vet! Not at all!
Just one very pissed-off Patriotic American who is seeing the country he loves destroyed before his eyes! Now is the time for Action! The time for these discussion sights has long gone. All true Americans need to stand together and make it very clear under no circumstances are we going to allow Obama and his cronies to destroy America any more!
As a military vet with over 20 years of active ser... (show quote)


My hubby n I are also retired military and would be honored to march and defect this enemy of the state. Enough is enough, this despicable man and is now jobs have got to go!

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Jul 31, 2013 02:00:14   #
rumitoid
 
I do not stand behind my president: I stand WITH the Bill of Rights and Constitution. If he is doing the same, we stand side by side. But he is not. If the Republican agenda was not so blatantly against helping "the least of these" and in the pocket of the Elite, I would still be an independent. Why? Fear is at the core of being a conservative.

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Jul 31, 2013 02:17:00   #
Noahsgrammie
 
Noahsgrammie wrote:
My hubby n I are also retired military and would be honored to march and defect this enemy of the state. Enough is enough, this despicable man and is now jobs have got to go!


"Opps, Sorry! What I meant was. And defend us from this enemy of the state. Enough is Enoought, this despicable man and his no jobs show have got to go!

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Jul 31, 2013 02:24:58   #
rumitoid
 
Noahsgrammie wrote:
"Opps, Sorry! What I meant was. And defend us from this enemy of the state. Enough is Enoought, this despicable man and his no jobs show have got to go!


Are you Nigerian?

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Jul 31, 2013 13:51:55   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
Let the Justice system do its work? Eric Holder, has his head so far up Obama-mau's butt that he couldn't find daylight with a flashlight. You sir are sadly mistaken! The time for prudence has passed. With every day that B.O.'s cronies are in the White House is just another day that our GOD given liberties are being taken away or challenged by this Socialistic Ego-maniac. American's have faced this kind of tyrant before in the British rule of our colonies. It is once again time to declare our Independence and "throw the bums out"!!
RETW wrote:
To you sir, I am honored to speak.

It should go with-out saying, we are all safer in our homes because of the sacrifice that has been made on our nations behalf, by the members of all the armed services. What each and every one of you has done for our country is a true testament to the sk**l and bravery of you all. And it is with a heavy heart I must admit, that in part I believe you to be correct. I know, and do completely understand what it is that you have testified to in you statement.
But I do not believe our citizens at large, joined by our military, should in no way take up arms to dispel an administration that is inept, and misguided as this one we now have in charge of the country. Blood spilled by American's, for American's, is never, and should never be the answer. That sir is why we have a Constitution along with the Bill of Rights. I do so applaud you for your recognition that our country is in numerous difficulties, in many aspects of our government. I to, am as frustrated as you appear to be. But I beg you, take a step back, and let our justice system work. It will, of that I am sure. It's not going to be as fast as a lot of us would wish. But it will work. May God bless you and all in the military,who serve our great country. RETW
To you sir, I am honored to speak. br br It shoul... (show quote)


:hunf:

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Jul 31, 2013 14:39:30   #
Noahsgrammie
 
rumitoid wrote:
Are you Nigerian?


Do I Jeer & Sneer at this hummmm....man Yes Yes I Do!
:lol: :lol:

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Aug 1, 2013 14:23:20   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
The time for these discussion sights has long gone. All true Americans need to stand together and make it very clear under no circumstances are we going to allow Obama and his cronies to destroy America any more!

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I'm with you, USpatriot! I'd promise to have your back, but I'm an out of shape 74 year old woman not really up to heavy work. But I can shoot a gun, pretty well if I do say so myself. I can also think up all sorts of sneaky ways to harm the enemy.

What we MUST DO is defend any American that does stand up to this rogue government. If we fail to help those resisting, then we deserve what we get.

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Aug 1, 2013 19:13:08   #
Noahsgrammie
 
Tasine wrote:
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I'm with you, USpatriot! I'd promise to have your back, but I'm an out of shape 74 year old woman not really up to heavy work. But I can shoot a gun, pretty well if I do say so myself. I can also think up all sorts of sneaky ways to harm the enemy.

What we MUST DO is defend any American that does stand up to this rogue government. If we fail to help those resisting, then we deserve what we get.


I too am with you, old, in my 60's, x-drill with expertise in teaching others how to aim, fire, and hit Any target needed....moving or still. And not so old I still can't max out a pt test and take most any man or women threatening me or mine with any kind of harm, out before they even knew what hit them....no brag, just plain fact. And Tasine I will also be using every sneaky thing I can think of too, every mean, horrid, unthinkable thing, yep I'll be using it. Who would think a helpless old women would do that???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Aug 2, 2013 08:44:32   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Noahsgrammie wrote:
I too am with you, old, in my 60's, x-drill with expertise in teaching others how to aim, fire, and hit Any target needed....moving or still. And not so old I still can't max out a pt test and take most any man or women threatening me or mine with any kind of harm, out before they even knew what hit them....no brag, just plain fact. And Tasine I will also be using every sneaky thing I can think of too, every mean, horrid, unthinkable thing, yep I'll be using it. Who would think a helpless old women would do that???? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Aug 2, 2013 14:03:34   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
Let the Justice system do its work? Eric Holder, has his head so far up Obama-mau's butt that he couldn't find daylight with a flashlight. You sir are sadly mistaken! The time for prudence has passed. With every day that B.O.'s cronies are in the White House is just another day that our GOD given liberties are being taken away or challenged by this Socialistic Ego-maniac. American's have faced this kind of tyrant before in the British rule of our colonies. It is once again time to declare our Independence and "throw the bums out"!!

:hunf:
Let the Justice system do its work? Eric Holder, ... (show quote)


You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wrong as wrong could be.
If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether. There are safeguards built into our system that say to [ all ]. If you don't like what, or how, are government is being run. We as citizens can change that. You believe in the Constitution, or you don't, Their is no splitting hairs on this point.

What I see going on in our country as far as the Government goes is this . Here we have an administration, that is most unpopular at this time. And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. That sir is what the ( great experiment )
is all about. I truly believe if you want to see it succeed, then work with it. Truly understand its constructs. Work within the framework that it was written to maintain. Never forget that this most sacred document, was written for all the people. By the people. And it is in our hands, that we now hold this.

No sir , I am not wrong. I will not take the sacrifice of the last 230 years, fighting for this Constitution, and just now toss it aside because you do not like what's going on at the moment.

If we want the bums out. V**e them out. Don't just talk about it. Go do something about. As I have said. I truly admire your personal sacrifice for our country. But patriotism is not a do it when you file like it construct.

It's a 24-7 event that is in our face each and every day. I liken it to a hearth in a eighteen hundreds home on a cold winters day. You either maintain it, or you freeze and die.

It's your choice. I hope you choose wisely.

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Aug 2, 2013 21:08:58   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
Your point about Being a patriot 24/7 is absolutely right. I make every day a day to do something to prove my patriotism. I serve several positions in local government, and serve in various community youth outreach programs. In all aspects of my participation in these groups I let all people know my views and help to correct "WRONG" teachings by our public school system concerning the Constitution, public service and the differences in our political party affiliations. I am a 5th generation veteran and have taught my kids what it means to be a "true Patriot".My eldest son is in the Army now, and a single parent. My youngest son is deciding now before he graduates to serve his country's armed force's. This mindset has been taught in my family for generations. We came from Europe in the 1600's to America, and were some one the earliest families to settle on the Eastern coast. To stand up to a "socialist" government is our Patriotic duty. It is based on the foundation of this Country's Constitution. To do less is not only wrong, but it is "UN-Patriotic". You keep your opinion and when Obama-mau puts you in one of his "Detention camps" remember these words. I will be living my life free in the back country doing all I can to make America FREE again from "Socialist pigs" who are trying toruin this country.
RETW wrote:
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wrong as wrong could be.
If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether. There are safeguards built into our system that say to [ all ]. If you don't like what, or how, are government is being run. We as citizens can change that. You believe in the Constitution, or you don't, Their is no splitting hairs on this point.

What I see going on in our country as far as the Government goes is this . Here we have an administration, that is most unpopular at this time. And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. That sir is what the ( great experiment )
is all about. I truly believe if you want to see it succeed, then work with it. Truly understand its constructs. Work within the framework that it was written to maintain. Never forget that this most sacred document, was written for all the people. By the people. And it is in our hands, that we now hold this.

No sir , I am not wrong. I will not take the sacrifice of the last 230 years, fighting for this Constitution, and just now toss it aside because you do not like what's going on at the moment.

If we want the bums out. V**e them out. Don't just talk about it. Go do something about. As I have said. I truly admire your personal sacrifice for our country. But patriotism is not a do it when you file like it construct.

It's a 24-7 event that is in our face each and every day. I liken it to a hearth in a eighteen hundreds home on a cold winters day. You either maintain it, or you freeze and die.

It's your choice. I hope you choose wisely.
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wro... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2013 11:28:30   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
RETW wrote:
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wrong as wrong could be.
If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether.If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether.

What I see going on in our country as far as the Government goes is this . Here we have an administration, that is most unpopular at this time. And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. That sir is what the ( great experiment )
is all about. I truly believe if you want to see it succeed, then work with it. Truly understand its constructs. Work within the framework that it was written to maintain. Never forget that this most sacred document, was written for all the people. By the people. And it is in our hands, that we now hold this.

No sir , I am not wrong. I will not take the sacrifice of the last 230 years, fighting for this Constitution, and just now toss it aside because you do not like what's going on at the moment.

If we want the bums out. V**e them out. Don't just talk about it. Go do something about. As I have said. I truly admire your personal sacrifice for our country. But patriotism is not a do it when you file like it construct.

It's a 24-7 event that is in our face each and every day. I liken it to a hearth in a eighteen hundreds home on a cold winters day. You either maintain it, or you freeze and die.

It's your choice. I hope you choose wisely.
You say that I am mistaken. NO sir, you are as wro... (show quote)

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I once thought as you do. I learned some things and now respectfully disagree with you. Additionally I think it is disingenuous of you to use hyperbole in misstating what US Patriot wrote, such as "If you think I am going to just go out and shoot my neighbor because I don't like, or disagree with his/her opinion of the way our country is being run at any given time. Then you have missed the point of our Constitution altogether."

I must have missed him saying that. I don't believe any decent person wants to do that.

It is true the Constitution has built in safety factors, but every one of them demands honesty, decency, and knowledge in both our politicians and the v**ers. No politician is doing what he should be doing, the SCOTUS is not doing what it is required to do, the media is not doing what it is charged with doing, and the non-informed v**ers are electing rotten humans into office. Our b****t box is terminally corrupted and is totally unreliable. Since all of the Constitution's built-in protections are failing BIG TIME, and since our forefathers KNEW it would happen once people learned how to game the system, and advised that from time to time, blood would have to be spilled, how can you sit there and lecture US Patriot for wanting to straighten out the mess, NOT THE MISTAKES, of a rotten leader and Congress?

You say, " And it is pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution. It's going to work or it will fail. " It is not pushing up very close to the limits of our Constitution - it is destroying our Constitution and doing so deliberately. If you cannot see the destruction that is occurring, it is merely because you don't want to, you support this misuse of the Presidency because you want the man to succeed. He IS succeeding - it's just that his success sets this nation back decades and decades, we are rapidly losing all of our God given rights because Obama's total and complete agenda is all about control of the masses.

I do not understand people like you at all - and don't want to........you do not do logic, yet have the gall to denigrate those who see what is being done to this nation all for the sake of you and your kind (socialists) wanting to make Obama look like something he definitely ISN'T - a leader.

If I have misrepresented you in any way, I apologize ahead of time. I am definitely angry and could have accused you of something you may wish to straighten out. But pie in the sky won't do it.

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