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First off, you just don't arrest the president of the United States.
The legitimacy, of the presidency, of the United States, is the responsibility off Congress. That's what's written in the Constitution. That's the law. For Congress to act, they have to convene a Congressional Hearing. Obama's fate will depend on the outcome of those hearings.

Our duly elected Congressmen have been told, that if they pursue justice and uphold the law, their sworn to uphold, they can consider their political careers, as over. On top of that, there are rummers that our representatives lives have been threatened if they continue to seek the t***h.

This is what the investigating officers are up against, right now. Despite that, the law is the law, they were sworn to uphold it and that's exactly what they intend to do.

Our government is already under attack, the question is, by who?
Fortunately for us there are individuals that have sworn an oath to protect this country and uphold the Constitution, so help them God. They took that oath because they meant it. They swore their life on it and before they're done some of them may very well lose it. They already stopped one bomb threat that was headed for Sheriff Arpia.


It is the individual states that are responsible for determining the eligibility of any candidate, in any e******n and that includes the e******ns for the presidency of the United States.
In Arizona, after three years of complaining, 250 citizens of Arizona gave a petition signed by them to the Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpia and asked him to investigate their claims that Obama violated Arizona law by providing forged documents to qualify for his candidacy, in the p**********l e******n in Arizona.

As citizens they had the right and duty to ask for his birth certificate and Selective Service Card to be authenticated.
The Sheriff had a right and a duty to respond to the demands of the citizens of his jurisdiction, to try and clear those documents.
The following investigation did not clear those documents, in fact the more they investigated the more problems they found.
After two years of investigating, the documents have been proven, to court room standards, to be complete and utter forgeries.
Further more these forged documents are the only documents that Obama has provided to prove his identity.
The investigators cannot find any certifiable papers to prove that the people Obama calls his parents are in fact his parents. Whether or not they are is immaterial, there is no evidence to prove it. There is no evidence that Obama was born in America and after two years of investigation there is a lot of evidence that indicates that he was not.


Since when, do you call demanding, that individuals that hold public office, follow the laws they are sworn to uphold, "a full scale battle with our government?"

The crimes that Obama has committed, just to get elected, are felonies. Since his e******n, he has used the office of the presidency to cover up his crimes, that's an obstruction of justice, another felony. This is just for starters, never mind what he's done in office.

Talking up arms will not be necessary, if we do as our law enforcement has asked us to do.

The media is covering up for Obama by hiding and minimizing his crimes. They have been successful in keeping a very large portion of the American population ignorant. We as citizens must take it upon ourselves and spread the word on how serious this is.
The second thing they asked for was donations so that they could buy the air time needed to bring attention to the Congressional Hearings when they are happening.
At this point the biggest danger is that when these hearings take place, the Congress will have them behind closed doors and they will be over and nothing will be done. This is the one thing that cannot happen and it has nothing to do with guns.

If ever there was a time to stand behind our President, it should be now. Let me repeat myself. If ever there was a time to stand behind our President , it should be now.
But that time is not now. And Obama is not that President.
Truly, I ask any one out there. How much longer are you going to let this administration, headed up by Obama, shovel crap in your pockets until you say, ( this stinks )?
Well? ------- How many more lies, deceit, r****m, claim’s of ignorance, and willful misconduct are you willing to put up with? How many more times does this administration have to stomp all over our Constitution and the Bill of Rights, before you say STOP, NO MORE?
When is it you are going to quit beating that dead horse about Bush and past presidents?

NEWS FLASH *** NEWS FLASH

There not in office any more. Haven’t been for well over 4 ½ years now.

Obama is, and you just gave him back the presidency for another 4.

And you gave it back to him for what,
{{ BETTER GOVERNMENT }}?

Scandal after scandal is what we have. Even you that v**ed for Obama, must surely relies. Frome this point on, we are going to get more of the same. I, as an independent v**er, can think of a few more in the Democratic party that would have made a far better President. When are you ever going to support a person because of the content of there character, rather than the color of there skin.

I do apologize to you for including you in the ones that think, it is OK just to take up arms upon our government.

As I have said, I do not know if what I have proposed is workable or not. But what I do know. The president of this country sure as hell can be arrested. We are not talking about God here, or a dictator. Outside of the fact, Obama has President in front of his name, makes him no different the any other citizen. That sir is precisely why we have a document called the United States Constitution that is written for the people, by the people. If he is, or is not a legalized citizen is not of import for this discussion.

It is quite clear as you stated,
( Our duly elected Congressmen have been told, that if they pursue justice and uphold the law, their sworn to uphold, they can consider their political careers, as over. On top of that, there are rummers that our representatives lives have been threatened if they continue to seek the t***h. )
If that is in fact the case, what than pray tell is the population supposed to do. Just set on there ass and wait
for something to happen. No sir, that's not even sensible.
And as far as the politicians careers are concerned. Public office was not intended to be a life long career. Serve your term, and then go back home and go to work.
If Congress can not, or will not do there job, are you telling me there is nothing for us to do but take all this crap the Obama administration is handing out. According to you, short of a full scale call to arms, that is the only way to be rid of him. I'll believe that when pigs fly.
What you have suggested to me is. all well and good, given all things being equal. There not, and you know it.

For unconventional times, call for unconventional measures.

You have stated and I quote.
(Talking up arms will not be necessary, if we do as our law enforcement has asked us to do). And just what pray tell is that? And what in the hell does law enforcement have to do with congress? Law enforcements only job is to see to it laws are obeyed and carried out. They don't make the laws. I am starting to see this discussion is going nowhere. For what you are suggesting is going to take a long time. And time sir, is something we are all a little short on.
RETW

Tasine

I am very surprised at you. For just like US Patriot, you have missed my points altogether. So let me take this time to answer your main point. And perhaps I can enlighten you along the way.

Your use of the term ( hyperbole ) is quite wrong concerning what the patriot has said, in conjunction with my interpretation of it.
What the patriot has said, and let me quote him here in this, ( Am I advocating
Civil war! If that’s what it will take to save America! YES! ). Again, ( Now is the time for action). Also, ( The time for these discussion sights has long gone ).

He has also said something very enlightening in his post. Again I will quote him. ( just one very pissed-off
Patriotic American ).
Frankly, this should have been your clue as to what in fact he is saying. As well as the reason behind it.
Now you, along with the Patriot, can spin this any way you so choose. What I have said, still remains very much true.

Advocating civil war is not stupid or wrong. It has gone way beyond that.

Understand this!
Civil; war entails guns, big guns, and a lot of them. The general population does not have big guns. Now I am quite aware that most folks have what is considered to be small arms. And they should. But I have yet to see a small arm weapon, win, when put up against a tank.
Now the last I checked, The general population does not have them.
[ Oh Oh wait Mr. John q public,
I’ll just go into my garage and bring one right out to you ] A-ha right.

I hope you are starting to get the picture.
For not only does civil war entail guns, it also advocates the use of deadly force.
K*****g of another human sole. And in this case, it will be in fact, your neighbor, or you. All government employees are our neighbors. A great many of them are, our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, ants , uncles, cosines, nieces or nephews, and so on. They may not agree with you, and there outlook is not the same as yours or mine. US Patriot is saying I should go out there and shoot them, because I don’t like the way they handle our government. No, No, No,
I will not do that just because he wants to. Stating that in so many words, all else has failed, and there is no other way.

Bull S**t I say, that’s madness. This country has not even begun to fight and already you two want to through in the towel.
Now let me put this right up on the table You have said, and again I quote, you.
( I don’t believe any decent person wants to do that). Meaning I assume, you do not agree with the use of weapons.
News flash for you . That’s exactly what civil war is all about. Whose got the bigger stick . And who can beat each other over the head with it, the most.
You can have civil un-rest, civil disobedience, civil discourse, civil disturbance. But civil war is another matter.
You have said you ( respectfully disagree with me). Fine, if that is your choice, I will not fault you for that.
But for you to say that I am disingenuous, have no logic, and the gall to denigrate a person, along with accusing me of being a socialist is nothing more than a slap in my face.

Any one that is at all familiar with me, knows better. All any one needs do, is look at my posts on this sight, and if by this time you do not know where I stand, than you haven’t been paying attention.

You can disagree with all you want, call me wh**ever it is you have a mind to. And you may never agree with me. But that my dear friend does not in any way tell me, I should pick up a gun and shoot you.
Were on the same side Tasine. You have just failed to recognize it. RETW

As a military vet with over 20 years of active service this is a very difficult subject for me. I swore an oath to this country when I went into the service and will honor it until I die. But, part of the oath I swore to uphold was, "to protect and defend this country from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic". This President and current Administration are the greatest threat to the freedoms and liberty of this country that it has EVER seen. As an American and a Patriot, it is my duty and all Americans duty to fight and defeat this "enemy of the State" with everything we have. Am I advocating civil war? If that is what it will take to save America! Yes!
Some will say that I am "nuts", just another crazy vet! Not at all!
Just one very pissed-off Patriotic American who is seeing the country he loves destroyed before his eyes! Now is the time for Action! The time for these discussion sights has long gone. All true Americans need to stand together and make it very clear under no circumstances are we going to allow Obama and his cronies to destroy America any more!

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You seem to perceive war in ONE way. There are myriads of ways of fighting a war. The left has been fighting one for at least a century. The left has been fighting against the American way and the US Constitution my entire life. The right has been blithely allowing them to rape and pillage it. The right has not yet joined the war - it is past time to do so. We have been complaining, carping, writing, faxing, etc, but we have no major plan of action. The LEFT DOES, and it's dirty and devious. The left's plan is to render the rest of us politically impotent so that they can go their socialist way.

I take it you disagree with our founders who KNEW that when people become enlightened enough to USE the government for their own benefit, and crass enough to ignore the Constitution, that blood may have to be spilled. I don't advocate war the way nations do wars. I advocate we do war the smart way. I don't advocate k*****g my neighbor. I don't advocate k*****g ANYONE, but I wouldn't hesitate a second to forcefully d**g a few hundred politicians to prison. If someone shoots at me for doing so, then I get to shoot back.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
George Washington

The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or s***es.
George Washington

The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.
George Washington

All of these comments are as valid today as they were in the 1700's. We can either succumb to tyrannical rule OR we can stop it, but every legal way to stop it has been ignored or refused by our people in power. The citizen sits here waiting to see what is in store - and such should not be the case if we value freedom. Problem is, most Americans don't even understand the concept of freedom because we have never known total freedom and we have never known total tyranny.

Tasine

I am very surprised at you. For just like US Patriot, you have missed my points altogether. So let me take this time to answer your main point. And perhaps I can enlighten you along the way.

Your use of the term ( hyperbole ) is quite wrong concerning what the patriot has said, in conjunction with my interpretation of it.
What the patriot has said, and let me quote him here in this, ( Am I advocating
Civil war! If that’s what it will take to save America! YES! ). Again, ( Now is the time for action). Also, ( The time for these discussion sights has long gone ).

He has also said something very enlightening in his post. Again I will quote him. ( just one very pissed-off
Patriotic American ).
Frankly, this should have been your clue as to what in fact he is saying. As well as the reason behind it.
Now you, along with the Patriot, can spin this any way you so choose. What I have said, still remains very much true.

Advocating civil war is not stupid or wrong. It has gone way beyond that.

Understand this!
Civil; war entails guns, big guns, and a lot of them. The general population does not have big guns. Now I am quite aware that most folks have what is considered to be small arms. And they should. But I have yet to see a small arm weapon, win, when put up against a tank.
Now the last I checked, The general population does not have them.
[ Oh Oh wait Mr. John q public,
I’ll just go into my garage and bring one right out to you ] A-ha right.

I hope you are starting to get the picture.
For not only does civil war entail guns, it also advocates the use of deadly force.
K*****g of another human sole. And in this case, it will be in fact, your neighbor, or you. All government employees are our neighbors. A great many of them are, our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, ants , uncles, cosines, nieces or nephews, and so on. They may not agree with you, and there outlook is not the same as yours or mine. US Patriot is saying I should go out there and shoot them, because I don’t like the way they handle our government. No, No, No,
I will not do that just because he wants to. Stating that in so many words, all else has failed, and there is no other way.

Bull S**t I say, that’s madness. This country has not even begun to fight and already you two want to through in the towel.
Now let me put this right up on the table You have said, and again I quote, you.
( I don’t believe any decent person wants to do that). Meaning I assume, you do not agree with the use of weapons.
News flash for you . That’s exactly what civil war is all about. Whose got the bigger stick . And who can beat each other over the head with it, the most.
You can have civil un-rest, civil disobedience, civil discourse, civil disturbance. But civil war is another matter.
You have said you ( respectfully disagree with me). Fine, if that is your choice, I will not fault you for that.
But for you to say that I am disingenuous, have no logic, and the gall to denigrate a person, along with accusing me of being a socialist is nothing more than a slap in my face.

Any one that is at all familiar with me, knows better. All any one needs do, is look at my posts on this sight, and if by this time you do not know where I stand, than you haven’t been paying attention.

You can disagree with all you want, call me wh**ever it is you have a mind to. And you may never agree with me. But that my dear friend does not in any way tell me, I should pick up a gun and shoot you.
Were on the same side Tasine. You have just failed to recognize it. RETW

Remember this one fact-The only way to effect dramatic change, is with dramatic change. America has lost her founding principles. the only way to get back on our original path of true American freedom and true Patriotism, is to look at what originally brought us to that in the first place. The road that the current POTUS has us on is one that can only lead this Country to insolvency, total collapse of our Government, continued assaults from outside entities like China, Russia, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the Muslim powers in general and inactivity from our own people to change what is wrong and correct it sooner rather than later.