I learned that I am in a very small minority this morning: I was listening to Congressman Israel, (D-NY0 talking about the immigration bill that the Senate hasn't sent to the House...

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I was listening to Congressman Israel, (D-NY0 talking about the immigration bill that the Senate hasn't sent to the House yet, (I wonder why that is) and he said that 87% of people in the US want comprehensive immigration. Of course, that puts me in that tiny minority. The thing that bothers me most is that although that 87% wants immigration reform I am pretty sure that not all of them want it in that comprehensive form from the Senate.

Do any of you in the 87% really know that although the Senate passed that abortive bill over 2 weeks ago they haven't sent it to the House yet? Why are they pushing so hard when they don't even share their bill with the House. Could it be political, only, or could it have something to do with constitutionality?

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

oldroy wrote:

I was listening to Congressman Israel, (D-NY0 talk... (show quote)

Perhaps it is 87% of the millions who are here illegally.

One has to wonder where they come up with these numbers. We have had this discussion before.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

AuntiE wrote:

Perhaps it is 87% of the millions who are here illegally.

One has to wonder where they come up with these numbers. We have had this discussion before.

Congressman King, (R-Io) was discussing with Israel and never said a word even though Israel said that figure more than once. Yes, we know he makes those numbers up or maybe he adds all those who believe in some kind of reform together.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

oldroy wrote:

Congressman King, (R-Io) was discussing with Israel and never said a word even though Israel said that figure more than once. Yes, we know he makes those numbers up or maybe he adds all those who believe in some kind of reform together.

Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: We know democrats in gereral and democrats from NY more specifically, lie.

UnionSparky Loc: left coast

oldroy wrote:

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They haven't sent it, because it would have to be sent back as unconstitutional. They have new fiscal requirements and since as in Obamacare, would be overstepping the House.
Harry Reid can't just say "my bad" and get away with it.
Damn that Constitution just keeps getting in the way.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

UnionSparky wrote:

They haven't sent it, because it would have to be sent back as unconstitutional. They have new fiscal requirements and since as in Obamacare, would be overstepping the House.
Harry Reid can't just say "my bad" and get away with it.
Damn that Constitution just keeps getting in the way.

But we can see a link on the forum at this time that says the Republicans pushing immigration aside will cause them trouble in Silicon Valley. Already, they are making noises about ceasing to support GOP Congressmen and women if they don't pass the bill Harry has in his pocket. The article even mentions Obama not getting to sign the bill. Obama doesn't know about origination so of course he goes ahead and signs them just like he did his signature law, Obamacare.

I wonder about that 87% and all of them who are in this thread now.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

CrazyHorse wrote:

Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: We know democrats in gereral and democrats from NY more specifically, lie.

Israel didn't have any kind of guilty look on his face any of the times he came out with that 87% number. I guess he must be a pretty proficient, Democrat liar.

UnionSparky Loc: left coast

oldroy wrote:

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As I type this the above the box said " Sign the petition
Pass the bill"

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

oldroy wrote:

Israel didn't have any kind of guilty look on his face any of the times he came out with that 87% number. I guess he must be a pretty proficient, Democrat liar.

You are quite right. Most Dems are very proficient in the art of lying. I wonder if lying is a proscribed course they must take or is it something they do on their own.

bahmer

oldroy wrote:

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Where is Silicon Valley and when did they ever support Republicans for anything? Just more of the same oh same oh. Just like Schummer almost brought tears to my eyes about his concern that the republicans would never gain the presidency if we didn't v**e for this amnesty bill. I am so touched by their sudden concern for all of us. I think this bill was almost as big as OIllegalcare was and maybe they should have had Pelosi try the one where we have to v**e it in to see whats in it routine again.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

oldroy wrote:

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Gee, I wasn't aware the preponderance of Silicon Valley were supportive of the GOP. All news accounts I have read show the CEOs/owners in Silicon Valley were heavy supporters of King Obama. They held many fund raisers for him in their own homes.

bahmer

Old_Gringo wrote:

Gee, I wasn't aware the preponderance of Silicon Valley were supportive of the GOP. All news accounts I have read show the CEOs/owners in Silicon Valley were heavy supporters of King Obama. They held many fund raisers for him in their own homes.

Amen, amen, amen

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kathandphil

AuntiE wrote:

Perhaps it is 87% of the millions who are here illegally.

One has to wonder where they come up with these numbers. We have had this discussion before.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I wonder if he would fall back on that number if forced to take a responsible position. I bet he would, but then I don't know the rules they follow other than blaming Republicans for everything. They all know that the bill was passed by the Senate and then kept on Harry's Dirty desk and yet they are talking about the Republicans holding the bill up.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Old_Gringo wrote:

Gee, I wasn't aware the preponderance of Silicon Valley were supportive of the GOP. All news accounts I have read show the CEOs/owners in Silicon Valley were heavy supporters of King Obama. They held many fund raisers for him in their own homes.

I see that you haven't read the link on a new thread today about how those very people are threatening to stop giving to GOP candidates. The names of three Senators of the RINO group are mentioned in the article. I forgot to say that I consider Rubio to be one of those RINOs.