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Sep 24, 2023 22:36:59   #
BIRDMAN
 
valkyrierider wrote:
A dealer has to have a special license but an individual does not. I will do more research.


The buyer of a machine gun needs a special license and if I’m not mistaken I think it cost about $15,000

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Sep 24, 2023 23:00:19   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
The buyer of a machine gun needs a special license and if I’m not mistaken I think it cost about $15,000


Look it up before coming up with things you do not know. You are starting to sound like kevyn. I just looked up the regs. Do some research instead of I think

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Sep 24, 2023 23:47:35   #
BIRDMAN
 
valkyrierider wrote:
Look it up before coming up with things you do not know. You are starting to sound like kevyn. I just looked up the regs. Do some research instead of I think


Then prove to me big mouth that you could buy a machine gun without a license because it’s you that needs to do research

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Sep 24, 2023 23:57:10   #
Oldsalt
 
Jim0001 wrote:
This will put the anti-freedom democrats into cardiac arrest.

Do you have a favorite firearm?
Or a favorite caliber?
Which do you prefer, Rifle, shotgun or handgun?

My collection goes from .17 cal. to .50 BMG.
But the older I get the more I like my .22's.
I can shoot all day and still have my shoulder and hearing intact and have enough money left over to afford an adult beverage when I come off the range.


Depends on waht I'm shooting. If I'm out shooting prarie dogs I like my .17. If I'm out to go fishing I take my.357 Mag. If I'm just going to the range it's usually several guns just because. I really don't have a favorite.

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Sep 25, 2023 00:01:21   #
Oldsalt
 
Kevyn wrote:
A Colt army special double action revolver chambered in 32-20. It is a tack driver but ammunition has become rare and costly and the thin walled casings make it a tough reload.


My dad picked up a Colt army special in 32-20 back in the'60s from some guy in Montana. Would sure like to know the history of it. if guns could talk.

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Sep 25, 2023 00:26:47   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
valkyrierider wrote:
A dealer has to have a special license but an individual does not. I will do more research. Did the research and typed in this.
What are the requirements for buying an automatic Weopon?
Answer
Be at least 21 years of age to purchase a machine gun from the current owner.
Be a legal resident of the United States.
Be legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
Pass a BATFE background check with a process time of 8 to 10 months.

Checked several places and you do not have to have any kind of special license unless you are unlucky enough to live in a democrat run state with stupid laws that go against the U.S. Constitution.
A dealer has to have a special license but an indi... (show quote)
Can You Own a Fully Automatic Weapon Legally?
May 31, 2022By Brandon Maddox
Last Updated: August 11, 2022

There’s a common assumption in society today that you cannot own a fully automatic weapon. That is 100% false. You absolutely can own a fully automatic weapon and it isn’t a difficult process to complete, but it is a lengthy and expensive process nonetheless.

A misunderstanding by most people of how the laws are structured is what leads to most people thinking that fully automatic weapons are illegal when they are, in fact, perfectly legal so long as you follow all the laws.

If you’ve got the time and the money and you want to own a fully automatic weapon, we’ll go over all of the qualifications, restrictions, and processes you need to complete in order to buy and possess one of these weapons.
What Qualifies as an Automatic Weapon

An automatic weapon, which is often called a machine gun, is defined by federal law as a firearm that fires more than one bullet with each pull of the trigger.

For example, all non-automatic weapons only fire one bullet with each pull of the trigger. You have to release your finger from the trigger and let it reset before you can fire another bullet. With an automatic weapon, you simply pull the trigger once and hold it down and the weapon will fire every bullet until it is empty without the user having to release the trigger and pull it again.

These weapons were initially regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934, then under the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, and again under the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986.

Ownership Restrictions for Automatic Weapons

Here are the requirements for owning a machine gun, or an automatic weapon, in the United States:

Must not be classified as a “prohibited person.”
Be at least 21 years of age to purchase a machine gun from the current owner.
Be a legal resident of the United States.
Be legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
Pass a BATFE background check with a typical process time of 8 to 10 months.
Pay a one-time $200 t***sfer tax. (You’ll need a stamp for each machine gun.)

Prohibited Persons

The first requirement we mentioned about machine gun ownership above was that you must not be a “prohibited person.”
A “prohibited person” includes anyone who:

is a felon.
has been convicted of any crime punishable by more than a year in prison (whether or not they were ever sentenced to or served a day in prison).
is under indictment for any crime punishable by more than a year in prison.
is a fugitive.
is an unlawful user of any controlled substance.
has been adjudicated as a mental defective.
has been committed to a mental institution.
is an i*****l a***n.
has a dishonorable discharge from the military.
has renounced their U.S. citizenship.
is the subject of a restraining order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or the child of an intimate partner, or who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

It’s also important to note that a prohibited person cannot even be in possession of a firearm, let alone own one, so if someone is a prohibited person, then that’s the end of the story and the attempt at legal machine gun ownership for them.

Firearm Owners Protection Act

The other big requirement for owning a machine gun is that it must have been made before May 19, 1986. It was the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 which officially closed the NFA registry to new machine guns. After May 19, 1986, private citizens would no longer be allowed to register new machine guns, but t***sfers of existing registered guns are still allowed.

Because of this, machine guns are becoming more and more expensive as the supply is significantly less than the demand. Get ready for sticker shock if you start shopping around for a machine gun, as you should expect to spend a minimum of $6,000-$10,000 to buy one. Popular models, like M16s and Tommy Guns, are closer to $30,000 or more. Essentially, machine guns are quickly becoming investments rather than practical firearms for use.


How to Own an Automatic Weapon

As we mentioned before, the process of owning an automatic weapon isn’t difficult, but it is expensive and time-consuming. Here’s a general outline of that process.

Buy a Legal Machine Gun

First, you’ve got to find and then buy a legal machine gun. It’s important to note that the actual purchase of the gun is just the beginning, and even though you’ve completed the financial t***saction with the dealer or person selling the gun, you cannot take possession of it until all of the other steps are completed and approved.

Apply with the Government

You have to get approval from the federal government to own a machine gun. This is done through the NFA division of the ATF.

ATF Form 4

Most all machine guns are t***sferred from one owner to another on an ATF Form 4. If you’ve ever bought a silencer, then you’ve completed this form. It’s not a complicated document to fill out and submit, but it does include the submission of a photo and fingerprints.

Buy an NFA Tax Stamp

The NFA of 1934 states that you must purchase an NFA tax stamp for each machine gun that you want to buy. Each stamp costs a flat $200.

Pass a Government Background Check

The government will then conduct a background check to ensure that you’re not a prohibited person and that you meet all of the other legal requirements for owning a machine gun.

Complete the Firearm T***sfer

Once you’ve met all of the government’s requirements and they’ve determined that you can own a machine gun, the NFA will approve your application and send it back. Then – and only then – will you be able to complete the t***sfer of the machine gun from the previous owner or seller to yourself.

Congratulations! You’re now the 100% legal owner of a fully automatic weapon!
Automatic Weapons can be Owned in the US!

We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again: automatic weapons are 100% legal in the US, but you’ve got to meet strict requirements to own one and the guns aren’t cheap.

Still, if you want to own an automatic weapon, you are completely within your rights to do so. If that sounds like something you want to do, then start saving your pennies now. Eventually, you’ll have enough copper Lincolns to do the deal and apply to be one of the lucky few who can say that they own an automatic weapon!

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Sep 25, 2023 00:40:50   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
Jim0001 wrote:
This will put the anti-freedom democrats into cardiac arrest.

Do you have a favorite firearm?
Or a favorite caliber?
Which do you prefer, Rifle, shotgun or handgun?

My collection goes from .17 cal. to .50 BMG.
But the older I get the more I like my .22's.
I can shoot all day and still have my shoulder and hearing intact and have enough money left over to afford an adult beverage when I come off the range.


1) any of the German Drillings. 7mm Mauser with 12 gauge. Krieghoff or Sauer & Sohn are fabulous; Savage O/U .22 mag and shotgun;
2) favorites for basic hunting: 6mm/.243 Win.; 6.5mm ; .270 Win. ; 7mm Mauser.
3) eons ago, business , 6 shot .32 Seecamp;
4) Revolvers : Colt Python; Ruger .44 mag.; Ruger .22 LR ; H&R .22 LR/ 9 shot
5) Pistols: Glock 19 ; Colt Woodsman; Ruger .22 bull barrel; Star 9mm
6) Semiautomatic shotgun: hunting- the Browning A5. ; Benelli.
7) Pump Shotguns: Ithaca Mod. 37 ;
REM. 870 Wingmaster ; Win. Trench gun;
Mossberg 590.
8) Maximum defense/ big game :
.375 H&H ; .416 Rigby / or modern version; .460 Weatherby mag.;
.470 Nitro Express dbl rifle.
Bolt guns: Sako; REM 700; Win. Mod 70;
9) fun - Marlin Golden 39A , .22 LR, lever action of course. In semi, the Ruger 10/22 !
Happy Autumnal Equinox.

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Sep 25, 2023 01:47:08   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Jim0001 wrote:
This will put the anti-freedom democrats into cardiac arrest.

Do you have a favorite firearm?
Or a favorite caliber?
Which do you prefer, Rifle, shotgun or handgun?

My collection goes from .17 cal. to .50 BMG.
But the older I get the more I like my .22's.
I can shoot all day and still have my shoulder and hearing intact and have enough money left over to afford an adult beverage when I come off the range.


What a great topic to start, Jim!
I currently own a Browning 1911-380 Black Label Compact. I have had it for a little over 5 years.
I chose it because I have very wide palms with short fingers, and a full size 45 1911's grip is uncomfortable in my hand, and allows for a full combat grip.
I carry it EVERY day, and it lives on my hip or secured next to my bed.
It conceals like a dream, even in a Versacarry OWB holster with a banded bottom summer shirt.
I hold a Texas Licence To Carry, have been professionally trained to shoot it, and try to practice at least once a month.
My accuracy is limited due to degraded eyesight, but at 50' I can reliably ruin a 5" target's whole day.
Thanks for all the posts, everyone....I enjoyed reading them immensely!

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Sep 25, 2023 05:21:12   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Jim0001 wrote:
This will put the anti-freedom democrats into cardiac arrest.

Do you have a favorite firearm?
Or a favorite caliber?
Which do you prefer, Rifle, shotgun or handgun?

My collection goes from .17 cal. to .50 BMG.
But the older I get the more I like my .22's.
I can shoot all day and still have my shoulder and hearing intact and have enough money left over to afford an adult beverage when I come off the range.



Ruger LCR hammerless revolver for carry, and Glock 26 9 Mm. The Roger is great, because lightweight, and both have a laser. The revolver is good for me, as I don’t have to do anything, but point and shoot, course can never go wrong with a Glock.
We all need to be ready, especially after this e******n.

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Sep 25, 2023 06:37:33   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Then prove to me big mouth that you could buy a machine gun without a license because it’s you that needs to do research


My big mouth did. I said that I researched it and I wrote it word for word what was required Kevyn wannabe. You said "I think" and I looked it up but you didn't. I even told you what to search and you couldn't even do that. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY A LICENSE TO BUY A FULLY AUTOMATIC GUN. It does have to be made before 1986 but if you work for the frigging IRS you can carry a brandy new one legally. So look it up arse "I think" hole.

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Sep 25, 2023 08:08:55   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Can You Own a Fully Automatic Weapon Legally?
May 31, 2022By Brandon Maddox
Last Updated: August 11, 2022

There’s a common assumption in society today that you cannot own a fully automatic weapon. That is 100% false. You absolutely can own a fully automatic weapon and it isn’t a difficult process to complete, but it is a lengthy and expensive process nonetheless.

A misunderstanding by most people of how the laws are structured is what leads to most people thinking that fully automatic weapons are illegal when they are, in fact, perfectly legal so long as you follow all the laws.

If you’ve got the time and the money and you want to own a fully automatic weapon, we’ll go over all of the qualifications, restrictions, and processes you need to complete in order to buy and possess one of these weapons.
What Qualifies as an Automatic Weapon

An automatic weapon, which is often called a machine gun, is defined by federal law as a firearm that fires more than one bullet with each pull of the trigger.

For example, all non-automatic weapons only fire one bullet with each pull of the trigger. You have to release your finger from the trigger and let it reset before you can fire another bullet. With an automatic weapon, you simply pull the trigger once and hold it down and the weapon will fire every bullet until it is empty without the user having to release the trigger and pull it again.

These weapons were initially regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934, then under the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, and again under the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986.

Ownership Restrictions for Automatic Weapons

Here are the requirements for owning a machine gun, or an automatic weapon, in the United States:

Must not be classified as a “prohibited person.”
Be at least 21 years of age to purchase a machine gun from the current owner.
Be a legal resident of the United States.
Be legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
Pass a BATFE background check with a typical process time of 8 to 10 months.
Pay a one-time $200 t***sfer tax. (You’ll need a stamp for each machine gun.)

Prohibited Persons

The first requirement we mentioned about machine gun ownership above was that you must not be a “prohibited person.”
A “prohibited person” includes anyone who:

is a felon.
has been convicted of any crime punishable by more than a year in prison (whether or not they were ever sentenced to or served a day in prison).
is under indictment for any crime punishable by more than a year in prison.
is a fugitive.
is an unlawful user of any controlled substance.
has been adjudicated as a mental defective.
has been committed to a mental institution.
is an i*****l a***n.
has a dishonorable discharge from the military.
has renounced their U.S. citizenship.
is the subject of a restraining order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or the child of an intimate partner, or who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

It’s also important to note that a prohibited person cannot even be in possession of a firearm, let alone own one, so if someone is a prohibited person, then that’s the end of the story and the attempt at legal machine gun ownership for them.

Firearm Owners Protection Act

The other big requirement for owning a machine gun is that it must have been made before May 19, 1986. It was the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 which officially closed the NFA registry to new machine guns. After May 19, 1986, private citizens would no longer be allowed to register new machine guns, but t***sfers of existing registered guns are still allowed.

Because of this, machine guns are becoming more and more expensive as the supply is significantly less than the demand. Get ready for sticker shock if you start shopping around for a machine gun, as you should expect to spend a minimum of $6,000-$10,000 to buy one. Popular models, like M16s and Tommy Guns, are closer to $30,000 or more. Essentially, machine guns are quickly becoming investments rather than practical firearms for use.


How to Own an Automatic Weapon

As we mentioned before, the process of owning an automatic weapon isn’t difficult, but it is expensive and time-consuming. Here’s a general outline of that process.

Buy a Legal Machine Gun

First, you’ve got to find and then buy a legal machine gun. It’s important to note that the actual purchase of the gun is just the beginning, and even though you’ve completed the financial t***saction with the dealer or person selling the gun, you cannot take possession of it until all of the other steps are completed and approved.

Apply with the Government

You have to get approval from the federal government to own a machine gun. This is done through the NFA division of the ATF.

ATF Form 4

Most all machine guns are t***sferred from one owner to another on an ATF Form 4. If you’ve ever bought a silencer, then you’ve completed this form. It’s not a complicated document to fill out and submit, but it does include the submission of a photo and fingerprints.

Buy an NFA Tax Stamp

The NFA of 1934 states that you must purchase an NFA tax stamp for each machine gun that you want to buy. Each stamp costs a flat $200.

Pass a Government Background Check

The government will then conduct a background check to ensure that you’re not a prohibited person and that you meet all of the other legal requirements for owning a machine gun.

Complete the Firearm T***sfer

Once you’ve met all of the government’s requirements and they’ve determined that you can own a machine gun, the NFA will approve your application and send it back. Then – and only then – will you be able to complete the t***sfer of the machine gun from the previous owner or seller to yourself.

Congratulations! You’re now the 100% legal owner of a fully automatic weapon!
Automatic Weapons can be Owned in the US!

We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again: automatic weapons are 100% legal in the US, but you’ve got to meet strict requirements to own one and the guns aren’t cheap.

Still, if you want to own an automatic weapon, you are completely within your rights to do so. If that sounds like something you want to do, then start saving your pennies now. Eventually, you’ll have enough copper Lincolns to do the deal and apply to be one of the lucky few who can say that they own an automatic weapon!
b Can You Own a Fully Automatic Weapon Legally? /... (show quote)


Thanks for posting. I hold four tax stamps and the bottom line is that automatic firearms are expensive to acquire and once you own it is expensive to feed them. It takes from 6 months to a year to complete all the background checks and complete the purchase. I wish we could take suppressors off the list, after all I have to have a muffler on my vehicles!

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Sep 25, 2023 08:11:27   #
Oldsalt
 
Jim0001 wrote:
Thanks for posting. I hold four tax stamps and the bottom line is that automatic firearms are expensive to acquire and once you own it is expensive to feed them. It takes from 6 months to a year to complete all the background checks and complete the purchase. I wish we could take suppressors off the list, after all I have to have a muffler on my vehicles!



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Sep 25, 2023 08:11:40   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
JuristBooks wrote:
1) any of the German Drillings. 7mm Mauser with 12 gauge. Krieghoff or Sauer & Sohn are fabulous; Savage O/U .22 mag and shotgun;
2) favorites for basic hunting: 6mm/.243 Win.; 6.5mm ; .270 Win. ; 7mm Mauser.
3) eons ago, business , 6 shot .32 Seecamp;
4) Revolvers : Colt Python; Ruger .44 mag.; Ruger .22 LR ; H&R .22 LR/ 9 shot
5) Pistols: Glock 19 ; Colt Woodsman; Ruger .22 bull barrel; Star 9mm
6) Semiautomatic shotgun: hunting- the Browning A5. ; Benelli.
7) Pump Shotguns: Ithaca Mod. 37 ;
REM. 870 Wingmaster ; Win. Trench gun;
Mossberg 590.
8) Maximum defense/ big game :
.375 H&H ; .416 Rigby / or modern version; .460 Weatherby mag.;
.470 Nitro Express dbl rifle.
Bolt guns: Sako; REM 700; Win. Mod 70;
9) fun - Marlin Golden 39A , .22 LR, lever action of course. In semi, the Ruger 10/22 !
Happy Autumnal Equinox.
1) any of the German Drillings. 7mm Mauser with 1... (show quote)


I have fired the .460 Weatherby and My shoulder cannot tolerate that 119 pounds of recoil coming at me. My .375 H & H pushes more than it kicks.

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Sep 25, 2023 08:16:33   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
then ya gotta feed 'em.
Those automatic bad boys are hungry.


The gatling gun @ about 1:30 spent several thousand dollars real quick!

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Sep 25, 2023 08:31:58   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
Jim0001 wrote:
Thanks for posting. I hold four tax stamps and the bottom line is that automatic firearms are expensive to acquire and once you own it is expensive to feed them. It takes from 6 months to a year to complete all the background checks and complete the purchase. I wish we could take suppressors off the list, after all I have to have a muffler on my vehicles!


I have 4 suppressors also.

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