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Mar 5, 2013 01:33:02   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
TheChardo wrote:
Trooper745 wrote:
Voice of Reason wrote:
I have a different take on the current gun control debate.

In January, 2011 representative Gabby Giffords was one of the victims of a mass-shooting event in Tucson, AZ. In the aftermath there was nary a word about gun control. In fact, the WH and MSM blamed Republican campaign rhetoric!

In July, 2012 there was a mass-shooting event in Aurora, CO. Again, in the aftermath, there were no calls for gun control from the WH.



In December, 2012 there was a mass-shooting event at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT. Suddenly, in the aftermath of this event, the WH is calling for gun control.

Why the difference?

If you remember prior to the p**********l e******n last November, a large number of Obama supporters took to Twitter and other social media threatening to r**t if Obama was not re-elected. These threats were mostly answered by conservatives to the effect of "Bring it on, we've been stockpiling guns and ammo for the last 4 years and we're ready for you."

This scared the "non-violent l*****ts" who are used to getting what they want through violence and threats of violence. Now they want to fix that.
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I had already figured that one out also Voice, but was debating whether or not to mention it. The l*****t supporters saying that they'll do some r**ting, l**ting, burning, pillaging, and even murdering, in the case of a Republican victory, ... Obama has no problem with that. The conservatives saying "Bring it on, we'll defend ourselves," now Obama has a big problem with that!
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Or could it be that we just want to stop gun violence. This talk about uprisings is not good or responsible.
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You CANNOT stop gun, or any other violence. It is part of human nature. Heck, survival of the fittest is the order of the day for nature in general. What you want cannot be achieved without a fundamental t***sformation of human nature. There's only two ways that happens: turn everyone into mindless zombie/s***es, or for people to t***sform themselves of their own free will. To my knowledge, there is only one culture in all of history that does that.

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Mar 5, 2013 11:00:56   #
RonMM
 
I no longer know where I am in this conversation so I'll just put it right here. Comma
I keep hearing it brought up in the second amendment arguments about gun rights that would have us believe that the right to bear arms refers to being part of a ‘legal’ M*****a and others who say ‘civilians’ rights to bear arms. I would imagine that the writers of the Constitution in those days were an educated bunch and well trained in the use of pen and verse and the use of punctuation in sentence structure. And since there seems to be so much controversy - Well I think that we should look to a dictionary for ‘aid’ in solving the issue.
I’ve looked in three dictionaries to find the accepted use of the ‘comma’ punctuation mark (,), I’ll provide the three entries here:
[b***American Heritage Dictionary]
Second College Edition (copyright 1991 by Houghton Mifflin Co. – Manufactured in the United States of America):
States: com-ma:
1. A punctuation mark (,) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.
2. A pause or separation; caesura.
3. Any of several butterflies of the….

[b***Webster’s Dictionary]
Published date unknown(Harbor House Publishers)
States: A punctuation mark (,), used to mark the shortest pauses in the division of a sentence.

[b***WEBSTER’S new twentieth century DICTIONARY of the English language, Unabridged]
(Rockville house publishers inc. printed in the United States of America, 1965)
States: comma;[ a short clause in a sentence; that which is struck or cut off, from koplein, to cut off.]
1. In writing and printing. A point (,) denoting the shortest pause in reading, and separating a sentence into divisions or members, according to construction.
2. Relates to music.
3. Ancient prosody.
4. A butterfly.
END Quotes
Just in case the titles of the books referenced look funny it's because I tried to put them in bold letters.

I don't believe that there is any problem understanding that the framers of the Constitution meant that we should have a m*****a AND that the civilian population have the rights to own arms – any arms and as many arms as they want. And I believe that it is the right of the people of the United States of America to defend their rights (in a civil way). Also I remember that when I joined the Navy I and everyone with me in that hall took an oath to defend the United States of America against all enemies both foreign AND domestic. I don’t remember ever rescinding that oath after my discharge from the Navy.

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Mar 5, 2013 11:09:31   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
RonMM wrote:

I don't believe that there is any problem understanding that the framers of the Constitution meant that we should have a m*****a AND that the civilian population have the rights to own arms – any arms and as many arms as they want. And I believe that it is the right of the people of the United States of America to defend their rights (in a civil way). Also I remember that when I joined the Navy I and everyone with me in that hall took an oath to defend the United States of America against all enemies both foreign AND domestic. I don’t remember ever rescinding that oath after my discharge from the Navy.
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What I find appalling is that every member of Congress also took an oath to defend the constitution, but the more aggressively progressive liberal members openly advocate ignoring it.

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Mar 5, 2013 16:35:10   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
RonMM wrote:
I no longer know where I am in this conversation so I'll just put it right here. Comma
I keep hearing it brought up in the second amendment arguments about gun rights that would have us believe that the right to bear arms refers to being part of a ‘legal’ M*****a and others who say ‘civilians’ rights to bear arms. I would imagine that the writers of the Constitution in those days were an educated bunch and well trained in the use of pen and verse and the use of punctuation in sentence structure. And since there seems to be so much controversy - Well I think that we should look to a dictionary for ‘aid’ in solving the issue.
I’ve looked in three dictionaries to find the accepted use of the ‘comma’ punctuation mark (,), I’ll provide the three entries here:
***American Heritage Dictionary
Second College Edition (copyright 1991 by Houghton Mifflin Co. – Manufactured in the United States of America):
States: com-ma:
1. A punctuation mark (,) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.
2. A pause or separation; caesura.
3. Any of several butterflies of the….

***Webster’s Dictionary
Published date unknown(Harbor House Publishers)
States: A punctuation mark (,), used to mark the shortest pauses in the division of a sentence.

***WEBSTER’S new twentieth century DICTIONARY of the English language, Unabridged
(Rockville house publishers inc. printed in the United States of America, 1965)
States: comma;[ a short clause in a sentence; that which is struck or cut off, from koplein, to cut off.]
1. In writing and printing. A point (,) denoting the shortest pause in reading, and separating a sentence into divisions or members, according to construction.
2. Relates to music.
3. Ancient prosody.
4. A butterfly.
END Quotes
Just in case the titles of the books referenced look funny it's because I tried to put them in bold letters.

I don't believe that there is any problem understanding that the framers of the Constitution meant that we should have a m*****a AND that the civilian population have the rights to own arms – any arms and as many arms as they want. And I believe that it is the right of the people of the United States of America to defend their rights (in a civil way). Also I remember that when I joined the Navy I and everyone with me in that hall took an oath to defend the United States of America against all enemies both foreign AND domestic. I don’t remember ever rescinding that oath after my discharge from the Navy.
I no longer know where I am in this conversation s... (show quote)



Not really commenting about this. Just had to fix the bold to display correctly. It was driving me nuts looking at all the excess text. :p

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Mar 10, 2013 09:50:43   #
RonMM
 
Thanks, how? and whats' the ":P" mean?

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Mar 10, 2013 09:52:28   #
RonMM
 
Never mind the ":P" it showed up when I asked for "how". :P

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