pegw wrote:
Are you nuts? If anyone other than Trump had such a big stash of government documents in their office and basement, they would be sitting in jail 6 months
after the discovery by the FBI.
So what do you think of the count that accuses Trump of showing people without security clearances our national secrets? Think about this: if Trump was so caviler about national secrets, did he do this amoung people at Mar a Largo that we don't know about?
Trump was in the process of negotiating the return of documents, and had already returned 15 boxes to NARA
before the raid on his home at Mar-a-Lago.
That Time President Obama Apparently Disclosed Classified Intel Information
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/that-time-president-obama-apparently-disclosed-classified-intel-information/https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-obama-records-idUSL1N3111RO“The Obama Foundation agrees to t***sfer up to three million three hundred thousand dollars ($3,300,000) to the National Archives Trust Fund (NATF) to support the move of classified and unclassified Obama P**********l records and artifacts from Hoffman Estates to NARA-controlled facilities that conform to the agency’s archival storage standards for such records and artifacts, and for the modification of such spaces.”
{{Why didn't NARA offer Trump the same type of facility to store HIS DOCUMENTS? Because NARA is controlled by the Democrats and the Trump document scandal has been a set-up all along by the Executive Branch to Get Trump IMO}}
pegw wrote:
Are you nuts? If anyone other than Trump had such a big stash of government documents in their office and basement, they would be sitting in jail 6 months
after the discovery by the FBI.
So what do you think of the count that accuses Trump of showing people without security clearances our national secrets? Think about this: if Trump was so caviler about national secrets, did he do this amoung people at Mar a Largo that we don't know about?
Joe Biden had a far larger stash of documents laying around loose. Both he and Hillary Clinton violated the following Federal laws numerous times
18 USC 798
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/79818 USC 1924
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/192418USC 793
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793James Comey, FBI Director in charge of investigating Hillary, stated publicly that Hillary had violated numerous laws. He also stated that "no prosecutor would prosecute these violations since they were unintentional."
That's odd, because the law makes no mention of intent. It doesn't matter whether you meant to or not. Every member of the State Department is briefed on proper procedure for handling classified material and Hillary signed a statement saying that she had been briefed. At the time Comey made this statement there were people in prison for doing exactly what Hillary did, intentional or not. Of course, James Comey had not made several million dollars off of doing business with a foundation run by the people in prison, like he did off of Hillary.
Biden had classified documents from his time as a Senator and Vice President. There ain't no wiggle room here. There is at least a little for an ex president, but none for a VP or Senator.
Trump chose not to prosecute Hillary further. That was a mistake, and no Republican president in the future is liable to repeat it.
LogicallyRight wrote:
***It will help keep your perspective real to keep in mind that Biden's was pushed aside quickly because he cooperated...
>>>He cooperated only because of the need to not be like Trump. But in fact, he has had these items for many years and put them in unsecured places and available to potential foreign agents. Unlike Trump. He needed to cut and run.
Cooperation can not matter !!! FJB wasn't allowed to have ANY classified documents EVER outside a SCIF period!!! Libs on this site have so much hatred for Donald Trump, all of you are blind to the law and the facts. It is so very sad when your world comes crashing down ON YOU! You're going to scream "WHAT HAPPENED" as the c*******ts haul you off to permanent internment camps, slowly starving you to death with the rest of us! Read history!!!
proud republican wrote:
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. This is NOT Banana republic!!!
Hmmmm. I think maybe we are now a banana republic. We're importing millions of banana republic citizens to support one.
pegw wrote:
Are you nuts? If anyone other than Trump had such a big stash of government documents in their office and basement, they would be sitting in jail 6 months
after the discovery by the FBI.
So what do you think of the count that accuses Trump of showing people without security clearances our national secrets? Think about this: if Trump was so caviler about national secrets, did he do this amoung people at Mar a Largo that we don't know about?
31 confidential, 54 secret, 18 top secret, 90 empty folders: Trump docs seized from Mar-a-Lago, by the numbers
And Trump had declassified them. This is a Civil dispute between Trump and archives. Civil.
padremike wrote:
Hmmmm. I think maybe we are now a banana republic. We're importing millions of banana republic citizens to support one.
Definitely a banana republic regime in control.
Liberty Tree wrote:
If it was not Trump but was a Democrat there would be no indictment by our current DOJ. The proof is how quickly they shoved aside Biden having unsecured documents to which he was never entitled.
Actually that's not the most important fact, the most important fact is that trump did what he is charged with as evidenced by solid proof versus rhetorical anecdotal nonsense like republicans rely on.
If the proof is there it has no relevance why the DOJ went after him, does it?
nwtk2007 wrote:
Definitely a banana republic regime in control.
Banana regime was trump's...
...jacking Qatar for a $300 million dollar loan they didn't want to make
...
Letting or making making foreign delegations pay $200k memberships to deal with the white house
...Kushner's involvement in billions in kickbacks in Saudi arms deals
...selling condos to Chinese people with green cards as a side benefit
...openly stating that a Mar A Lago membership got face time with the president to pitch deals
That's a banana republic
[quote=woodguru]Banana regime was trump's...
...jacking Qatar for a $300 million dollar loan they didn't want to make
...Letting or making making foreign delegations pay $200k memberships to deal with the white house
...Kushner's involvement in billions in kickbacks in Saudi arms deals
...selling condos to Chinese people with green cards as a side benefit
...openly stating that a Mar A Lago membership got face time with the president to pitch deals
That's a banana republic[/quote
Post your sources, legitimate & credible sources, not your click bai,t Marxist Left wing crap.
Kevyn wrote:
It is not possessing them it is the undeniable fact that he lied about them and failed to return them when told to do so.
I think someone else did something like that a few years back. If I remember right, they just destroyed the documents though. I don't think that person was ever punished...I may be wrong though
If he were sentenced by a jury of his peers for handling and sharing highly sensitive info in a criminal manner. Would you accept that decision?
lindynduff1 wrote:
If he were sentenced by a jury of his peers for handling and sharing highly sensitive info in a criminal manner. Would you accept that decision?
As long as you accept that biden is just as guilty..
proud republican wrote:
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.. This is NOT Banana republic!!!
When Biden got elected, it became one.
woodguru wrote:
Actually that's not the most important fact, the most important fact is that trump did what he is charged with as evidenced by solid proof versus rhetorical anecdotal nonsense like republicans rely on.
If the proof is there it has no relevance why the DOJ went after him, does it?
Hey dips**t, the most important fact is that Trump is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Your opinion of what he did or didn't do is meaningless.
And, regarding "solid proof"? Bulls**t, president Trump DID NOT violate the Espionage Act of 1917.
Once again the democrats have breached the laws and the Constitution to manufacture "Get Trump" evidence.
And one day, in the not too distant future, you scumbags are gonna pay a painful price for your blind hatred.
If a democrat were a criminal, profiting , in excess, from deals here and abroad, what should happen to him.
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