Quid Pro Quo, rumitoady: Fifty million on food stamp "Vision" cards; 10 + million on disability, many who park in the front stalls and walk normally and unaided into the stores. Communities and states took care of their truly needy before Obama, now he uses our tax money to buy v**es with. Did you come here of your own volition, or did Obama or some union send you, pray tell?
Your blanket statement about unions, couldn't be farther from the t***h. Even considering their support leans heavily with the Democrats.
I am, if you couldn't tell by my handle, an IBEW electrician. Our union was formed when a wireman doing his job, had a 50/50 chance of being dead every day he worked. It's not a typo, saying he, as women were not thought to be able to perform the work. Now on any given day, on any given jobsite, chances are you will see women in anyone of the building trades.
If you are paid by the hour, you owe a thank you to unions for receiving overtime after 8 hours or after 40 hours per week. Also for the 5 day work week.
The building trade unions do not have the job protections, that government employee unions have. We are expected to produce results in our work or were are down the road.
With that being said, I have very little in common with my unions political beliefs. I see the Constitution being trampled on by this current rabble in control. If you have any questions with what I have stated, feel free to ask.
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
TheC*****r wrote:
Excuse me for interrupting your socialistic propaganda.
Especially your attempt to make their activities past tense and trying to downgrade their "progressive-liberal" activities with the words "some needed socialism." Just a little more control for the workers you say?
Let me quote the Socialist of America:
"The Socialist Party participates in the e*******l process to present socialist alternatives. We do not divorce e*******l politics from other strategies for basic change. While a minority, we fight for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. When a majority we will rapidly introduce those changes, which constitute socialism, with priority to the elimination of the power of big business through public ownership and workers' control."
Read their words again: When a majority we will rapidly introduce changes, which constitute socialism, with priority to the elimination of the power of big business through public ownership and workers control!
Does anyone else see the subtle lies and at the same time the actions of the current DEMOCRATIC administration and his ilk?
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Your mistake in this response to rumtoid was in not focusing on the phrase "worker's control." What union members fail to understand is the unions are controlling them. Every time the union negotiates a contract, the control work conditions and benefits, etc. these individuals complain about business control and unfairness and fail to realize they still are not in "control".
I already explained the nature and intent of my ironic questions. Feel free, as you have, to be insulted. I regret the subtlety. No more obtuse comments. "In the clear" as we used to say in the service. Okay with you?
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
rumitoid wrote:
CH, do you see any insults in my post?
I have worked all my life, only briefly for a Union company. I am 66 and still working, though part time, being semi-retired. I provided some information that is easily verifiable and I would provide sites except I believe it is good for a person to do the work themselves.
Have their been abuses by unions? Yes, many but that does not mean they haven't helped Americans form their high standard of living. Just saying, "Yeah, sure," in a sarcastic tone and making no effort to check the facts seems a shame.
What I said is not a liberal post; it is simply factual. History.
I have to ask. Why be insulting?
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You ask the people on the forum if they have ever worked or read history. It would be inferred by that question your self important belief that only you have worked or read history.
hemorrhoid wrote:
I already explained the nature and intent of my ironic questions. Feel free, as you have, to be insulted. I regret the subtlety. No more obtuse comments. "In the clear" as we used to say in the service. Okay with you?
It would really help if you would learn how to reply to the person whom direct your comments. It's a real pain trying to follow some of your rants!
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