CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, AuntiE: Thank you kindly. :D ;) :thumbup:

rumitoid

CH, do you see any insults in my post?

I have worked all my life, only briefly for a Union company. I am 66 and still working, though part time, being semi-retired. I provided some information that is easily verifiable and I would provide sites except I believe it is good for a person to do the work themselves.
Have their been abuses by unions? Yes, many but that does not mean they haven't helped Americans form their high standard of living. Just saying, "Yeah, sure," in a sarcastic tone and making no effort to check the facts seems a shame.

What I said is not a liberal post; it is simply factual. History.

I have to ask. Why be insulting?

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, rumitoid: Well lets just see, rumitoid, you start off with this zinger: "Have any of you guys ever worked for a living?" And now you come back with: "CH, do you see any insults in my post?" Hell YES!!! You don't consider that an insult. You started the war pard, clean up your act or expect to get roasted.

rumitoid

How is an ironic question insulting? Just to have the beliefs you hold it is clear that you have worked for a living. If I had asked if you have ever breathed, it would be insulting?

Yet, for me, this is avoiding the issue. Having such hatred for unions (or is it the assumption they are liberal) should be thoroughly investigated by a reasonable person, unless you are prone just to repeat Conservative talking-points without thought?

The Dutchman

Just one question! Do you have any knowledge of the unions c*******tic beginnings? And I have a lot more questions for you along these lines......

The Dutchman

And it is the unions that have destroyed the manufacture of American made goods, bankrupt good companies with their unrealistic demands, r**t destroying property and even getting people k**led when they don't get their way and you think this is great? Unions are as socialistic as anything can be!
And yes I have worked for a living, been in union shops and witnessed them protect dead beat no-loads, witnessed them saying "Oh I can't do that, it's not in my job description" Union members are people who are unable to get a job without having to pay some c****e thug for the right to work! And don't try to give me any of that union collective bargaining BS! Yall!!

rumitoid

Of course C*******ts were heavily involved in the Labor Movement: their creed was better working conditions for labor, which was desperately needed in this country, if you are familiar with well-documented abuses by Big Business for centuries.
Labor was little more than s***es. There was no one to look out for their interest. They had no power. Criminal abuses were common. That an ugly and failed philosophy like C*******m might use a prominent failure of Capitalism to gain popularity and acceptance, does not mean that there wasn't something terribly with Capitalism as practiced back then.

Democracy without some needed socialism is social darwinism. How we care for the least of these is not only an imperative of Christianity but of any good government.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, rumitoid: You can't be serious: "How is an ironic question insulting?" Just the implication of your question would lead reasonable folks to conclude it was insulting. Moreover, the prepositional statement to your question guaranteed the question was meant to be insulting, thus: "I read all the comments as well and have to ask a question: have any of you guys ever worked for a living? In addition, you identified your age in the 60's, and the guys you are referring to are all older than you are. We're not kids. Do you truly think we made it this far through life without working just because we disagree with union actions and union thugs. So don't play games and pretend you are pure as the driven snow. Next time I respond to you rumitoid, if the facts merit it, I won't be near to so kind.

TheCracker

Excuse me for interrupting your socialistic propaganda.
Especially your attempt to make their activities past tense and trying to downgrade their "progressive-liberal" activities with the words "some needed socialism." Just a little more control for the workers you say?

Let me quote the Socialist of America:

"The Socialist Party participates in the e*******l process to present socialist alternatives. We do not divorce e*******l politics from other strategies for basic change. While a minority, we fight for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. When a majority we will rapidly introduce those changes, which constitute socialism, with priority to the elimination of the power of big business through public ownership and workers' control."

Read their words again: When a majority we will rapidly introduce changes, which constitute socialism, with priority to the elimination of the power of big business through public ownership and workers control!

Does anyone else see the subtle lies and at the same time the actions of the current DEMOCRATIC administration and his ilk?

TheCracker

Then there is the other "Clinton" - our past Sec State - K**lary.

Quotes:

B******I: HILLARY LIES LIKE A RUG TO CONGRESS AND AMERICA

I Didn't Say It was the Video

I Didn't Have 'Relevant' Information to Give Review Board

I Never Saw Requests for More Security

I Didn't Select Rice, Wasn't Consulted

It was Congress' Fault

Yes, Officials Cited for Failures Still Being Paid

What's It Matter Who Did It?

Al-Qaeda in Africa has No Interest to Attack Our Homeland

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

The Dutchman

rumitoid wrote:
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Democracy without some needed socialism is social darwinism. How we care for the least of these is not only an imperative of Christianity but of any good government.



I doubt you will ever be able to get the point across to this one!
Anyone that is such a staunch supporter of the c*******t party is no way going to understand what you are trying to say.
Also anyone joining a union does so because they lack the back bone and mental capacity to fend for themselves and have to hire a c****e thug to protect and talk for them.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Now C*****r it seems to me that you quoting the Socialist Party for everyone to see is a dirty trick. Can you come up with some more of those dirty tricks? Please

You just bashed old rumitoid with that post and I bet you have had the last answer from him, here.

TheCracker

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ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio