billlingle

Nothing works every time for everyone. I'll bet that there are members of your union who are very pleased with it as well as members of your friend's IBEW union who h**e it. The fact remains, though, that without the unions there would be no middle class. The great thing that is happening now with a new, strong push to unionize is that it has the potential to jumpstart the middle class that is currently in decline.

billlingle

I can't imagine that they did it just because they could and you looked like a good subject.

johnalex2

Labor unions (Organized Labor) developed in the US during the late 18th cent to combat exploitation of European immigrants who lacked political power. They proliferated to the great benefit of union leaders and politicians championing Socialist economic structures. Great harm to the US (and elsewhere in the world) has been unionization of public sector employees. This has driven public sector costs to the sky, empowered politicians to extort taxpayer support of public sector growth, and higher taxes. Education has been perverted and corrupted by Socialist rather than Free Market principals promoting the decline of US elementary and secondary schools.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

On another thread, you alluded to that you were university educated. I am an ACTUAL former UAW worker and observer of the UAW after I started working for "the company" who saw way too many times workers that were fired only to get their jobs back when they shouldn't have.

billlingle

I saw that as well. I also saw a guy who deserved firing and maybe even prosecution advance in union management. Anyone who thinks that an organization as large as the UAW is not going to have some gross injustices, some corruption, and horror shows on every level is not being realistic. The fact that they are able to keep wages and benefits within the realm of the ongoing economy for the vast majority of their membership who are hard working guys trying to make a living and support their families is the fact that matters. Without them every worker is in jeopardy every day. The fact that many take advantage of this is an unavoidable shame.

billlingle

I'll bet the wages suck and the benefits don't exist.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

My experience as a ranch hand is -so the wages can be low but the grub is real good and the way of life is actually peaceful . Some people would call it heaven .

microphor Loc: Home is TN

CounterRevolutionary

Oh, tax the big bad corporations. Oh, tax the rich. Oh, increase government regulations and spending. Oh, give the people socialism, equal pay for unequal work.....

Oh, God gimme a break!

Not a single labor union leader has ever demanded we Audit the Fed, its endless bailouts of dictators and double standards, its devaluation of the dollar to a dime, it's theft of our time and money where the money we make today is worthless tomorrow. This is the bank that robs its customers, the single greatest thief of income in the entire history of the world.

FOIA the FBI on Armand Hammer. They will send you a very lengthy CD. Armand and Julius Hammer, father and son, were KGB agents since Armand Hammer introduced the Fortune 500 monopolies to Lenin. Armand and Julius's Allied Chemical Company in New York City was converted into AMTORG Trading Company, the American-Russian Trading Organization in 1924, as well as the London based ARCOS and Berlin based WESTORG loop to Moscow to circumvent our Congressional embargo on Bolshevik goods.

Julius and Armand next created the CIO, "Congress of Industrial Organizations" labor union which eventually merged with the AFL, "American Federation of Labor." Armand Hammer next became an unofficial ambassador to the Soviet Union, consulting Franklin Roosevelt to initiate Lend-Lease to bolster Stalin and the UK's fight against Hitler as the Rockefellers shipped oil through AMTORG to the N**is.

Does anybody recognize a conflict of interest here?
Talk about sleeping with the enemy!

Since President Woodrow Wilson created the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913, and FDR virtually nationalized it by creating the Comptroller of the Currency and FDIC, to the present, the purchasing power of the dollar has been laterally reduced to 3 Cents, despite mass production increasing our national wealth. The Fed has NEVER been audited!

Again, I ask, why has no labor union ever demanded we audit the Federal Reserve Bank that funded the rise of the Bolsheviks and the N**is?

CounterRevolutionary

I notice nobody is answering my question.

Who is the greatest thief of our wages, time and money:

The big, bad corporations"

The IRS?

Congressional spendthrifts and 600+ Bureaucracies?

or

The Federal Reserve Bank and its endless presses humming night and day printing trillions of dollars out of thin air way beyond the value of our GDP? (None dare call it counterfeit.)

Why don't the Labor Unions demand we audit the Fed? Who has the Fed bailed out since 1913?
Oh, I get it. The Fed is next going to bail out union defunct pension funds invested in crypto currencies?
Crypto currencies, according to Waren Buffett, are "rat bait," the currency of terrorists and drug traffickers.

It was JFK's Executive Order 10988 that granted government employees the right to organize labor unions since Joseph Kennedy owed the Mafia bigtime for his son winning the 1960 Ovil Office.

After 9/11, Senators Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy demanded Congress pass a bill to nationalize all First Responders into one labor union. Imagine them striking in the midst of a crisis?

Does anybody see a Democrat Party conflict of interests here??????

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

Naturally

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

👍 nailed it!

Kevyn

It is a stipulation of the job, they can work elsewhere if they don’t agree. That is their choice.

Weswill

Back in the day when unions first formed, they were good because they did what they were suppose to do, fight for good wages, good working conditions, fair treatment and to hold the companies accountable. But now the unions want to and do run the companies. They work against companies instead of with them. They fight for some workers that don't deserve to be fighting for. It has been said that today's unions are only for the lazy member. Today's unions are out for power. They use every tool they have to control the members and the companies. No one should be forced to join a union in order to work. There should be a right to work without joining a union law and some states have them. Unions could be a good thing but they have other intrusts other than the members or workers. If unions put so many demands on a business that the business has to close its doors, how does that help the middle class??

Gatsby

So, you are opposed to the right to work?