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Mar 18, 2023 10:57:10   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I could go with giving them a single opportunity...
That's it...
I've seen the devastation they can cause...


I have to generally go with Smedley here. Their choice, their responsibility, their consequence. It is not what an addict does to themselves, including overdosing, that is the problem. I look at drug users like sky divers. When the parachute fails, the result is directly related to the risk taken. Shouldn't we be punishing people for the devastation they actually DO cause? Not the devastation they MIGHT cause.

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Mar 18, 2023 11:18:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
When I broke my back, I was in excruciating pain. I was given opioids, and I was still in excruciating pain, and constipated to boot.


Wow, broke back.. that is one more experience I truly hope to avoid.. and that one little side effect is nasty..

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Mar 18, 2023 12:19:38   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora...

Try not to dismiss it, but rather to think about it for a bit..

Since f******l is k*****g more Americans than cancer and guns combined, how come Biden is ignoring the drug problem?

But it isn’t. in 2021 67,325 died of all opioids including f******l and heroin. Cancer deaths in 2021 were 608, 570 gun deaths, and 45,222 gun deaths.

You do know the numbers can be actually looked up and it isn’t close, almost 10 times as many cancer deaths as opioid deaths.

Biden isn’t ignoring the drug problem but to be perfectly brutal drug abusers volunteer for their problems and while there have been record amounts of f******l intercepted at the border under this administration. Drug users are the problem. The DOJ under Biden has been prosecuting doctors and pharmacies that hand out drugs like candy, they have tightened the border and intercepted record amounts of drugs the problem is the Americans who choose to use drugs. Do you expect a president to go door to door and check out medicine cabinets?

I have massive sympathy for the over 600,000 Americans who die from Cancer and the over 45,000 Americans who die from gunfire. I have less for the 67,000 Americans who knowingly choose to become addicted to a drug that is very dangerous and overdoses. They are not victims they are participants. They chose their sad end. I had an excellent dentist who knowingly became addicted to F******l and was found at a rest stop dead because he chose to use a drug.

This isn’t Biden’s fault this is the fault of those who chose a very risky high and lost the gamble.
Pulled from Quora... br br Try not to dismiss it,... (show quote)



A result of an open border:
Researchers found a staggering 110,236 people died in a single 12-month period, a stunning new record.
What to look for in 2023: Because drug death data is gathered slowly in the U.S., it won't be known for many months exactly how many people died from fatal overdoses in 2022, but the toll is expected to be grim.
When the history of America's long, devastating opioid crisis is finally written, 2022 may be remembered as both a low point and a turning point.

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests the avalanche of overdose deaths — driven largely by the spread of illicit f******l --may have crested in March.

Researchers found a staggering 110,236 people died in a single 12-month period, a stunning new record.

But there are signs help may finally be on the way.

The avalanche of drug deaths spurred a series of major reforms in 2022 to the way drug addiction is treated in the U.S., changes designed to reduce stigma and improve access to care.

2022 was also a year of corporate accountability.

Major drug companies, distributors, and pharmacy chains reached settlements of opioid lawsuits filed by state and local governments totaling more than $50 billion.

Experts say that money, paid out over the next two decades, will fund treatment programs and other services that are desperately needed, especially in poor rural towns and urban neighborhoods.

Here are the major developments in 2022 that made it a pivotal year for the overdose epidemic.

F******l got worse in 2022. Probably a lot worse.
Let's start with the grim news.

Street drugs in America got even more toxic in 2022 with the spread of the synthetic opioid f******l. Many of those dying are young, under the age of 40.

"They're zombifying people," said Marche Osborne who lives on the streets in Tacoma, Wash.

She's been addicted to opioids for 18 years and prefers heroin, but says f******l is now the only drug street dealers are offering.

"Anybody will do anything for a pill, it's ridiculous. They're dehumanizing people. It's not a good thing. It's not going to go anywhere good if [the spread of f******l] continues," Osborne told NPR.

Using data from 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced in late 2022 that life expectancy in the U.S. has dropped to its lowest point in two decades, in part because of street drugs.
Look for f******l to continue to be a hot-button political issue.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/31/1145797684/2022-was-a-deadly-but-hopeful-year-in-americas-opioid-crisis

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Mar 18, 2023 12:43:31   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
America 1 wrote:
A result of an open border:
Researchers found a staggering 110,236 people died in a single 12-month period, a stunning new record.
What to look for in 2023: Because drug death data is gathered slowly in the U.S., it won't be known for many months exactly how many people died from fatal overdoses in 2022, but the toll is expected to be grim.
When the history of America's long, devastating opioid crisis is finally written, 2022 may be remembered as both a low point and a turning point.

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests the avalanche of overdose deaths — driven largely by the spread of illicit f******l --may have crested in March.

Researchers found a staggering 110,236 people died in a single 12-month period, a stunning new record.

But there are signs help may finally be on the way.

The avalanche of drug deaths spurred a series of major reforms in 2022 to the way drug addiction is treated in the U.S., changes designed to reduce stigma and improve access to care.

2022 was also a year of corporate accountability.

Major drug companies, distributors, and pharmacy chains reached settlements of opioid lawsuits filed by state and local governments totaling more than $50 billion.

Experts say that money, paid out over the next two decades, will fund treatment programs and other services that are desperately needed, especially in poor rural towns and urban neighborhoods.

Here are the major developments in 2022 that made it a pivotal year for the overdose epidemic.

F******l got worse in 2022. Probably a lot worse.
Let's start with the grim news.

Street drugs in America got even more toxic in 2022 with the spread of the synthetic opioid f******l. Many of those dying are young, under the age of 40.

"They're zombifying people," said Marche Osborne who lives on the streets in Tacoma, Wash.

She's been addicted to opioids for 18 years and prefers heroin, but says f******l is now the only drug street dealers are offering.

"Anybody will do anything for a pill, it's ridiculous. They're dehumanizing people. It's not a good thing. It's not going to go anywhere good if [the spread of f******l] continues," Osborne told NPR.

Using data from 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced in late 2022 that life expectancy in the U.S. has dropped to its lowest point in two decades, in part because of street drugs.
Look for f******l to continue to be a hot-button political issue.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/31/1145797684/2022-was-a-deadly-but-hopeful-year-in-americas-opioid-crisis
A result of an open border: br Researchers found a... (show quote)


Remember the crack cocaine epidemic 20 years ago? Sponsored by the CIA? Now the cartels have a drug to compete with them. Makes you wonder if they are working together

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Mar 18, 2023 16:06:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
There is nothing for which you will not make an excuse fir Biden.


You nailed the T***h.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:09:48   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well said...
I agree...
And would take it a step further...
Execute those who trafficked in drugs... Be they sellers or users...


The Left hand of L*****ts is actively trying to decriminalize illicit drugs. Consider the progress they've made already with Marijuana.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:32:55   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Wow, broke back.. that is one more experience I truly hope to avoid.. and that one little side effect is nasty..


Constipated with a broken back is not for the faint of heart. Two surgeries, ongoing probs with sciatica. Physical therapy helped more than all the slicing, dicing and pills.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:58:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Constipated with a broken back is not for the faint of heart. Two surgeries, ongoing probs with sciatica. Physical therapy helped more than all the slicing, dicing and pills.


That hurts just thinking about it.. glad the therapy helped.. and I very much hope you are recovered now days..

Pills are a question, told my doc that I did not like taking a bunch of pill.. He said clear as day.. We all are better the fewer pills we take.. surprised me at the time...

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Mar 18, 2023 21:49:14   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
That hurts just thinking about it.. glad the therapy helped.. and I very much hope you are recovered now days..

Pills are a question, told my doc that I did not like taking a bunch of pill.. He said clear as day.. We all are better the fewer pills we take.. surprised me at the time...


Me personally I think you should be taking a lot more pills

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Mar 18, 2023 21:53:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
The Left hand of L*****ts is actively trying to decriminalize illicit drugs. Consider the progress they've made already with Marijuana.


I'm actually fine with marijuana being legal...
I don't see it as being more harmful than alcohol...
And being able to monitor the quality and quantity is useful...
Decriminalizing drugs has already taken place in some parts of Canada... With horrid results...

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Mar 18, 2023 22:36:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Birdmam wrote:
Me personally I think you should be taking a lot more pills



I am determined not to do that.. I may simply chew on willow bark rather then take aspirins... LOL

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Mar 18, 2023 22:54:14   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
I am determined not to do that.. I may simply chew on willow bark rather then take aspirins... LOL


Willow Bark is aspirin I think some N**i company made it. I think you should chew mushrooms. Bayer

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Mar 18, 2023 23:36:05   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora...

Try not to dismiss it, but rather to think about it for a bit..

Since f******l is k*****g more Americans than cancer and guns combined, how come Biden is ignoring the drug problem?

But it isn’t. in 2021 67,325 died of all opioids including f******l and heroin. Cancer deaths in 2021 were 608, 570 gun deaths, 45,222 gun deaths.

You do know the numbers can be actually looked up and it isn’t close almost 10 times as many cancer deaths as opioid deaths.

Biden isn’t ignoring the drug problem but to be perfectly brutal drug abusers volunteer for their problems and while there have been record amounts of f******l intercepted at the border under this administration. Drug users are the problem. The DOJ under Biden has been prosecuting doctors and pharmacies that hand out drugs like candy, they have tightened the border and intercepted record amounts of drugs the problem is the Americans who choose to use drugs. Do you expect a president to go door to door and check out medicine cabinets.

I have massive sympathy for the over 600,000 Americans who die from Cancer and the over 45,000 Americans who die from gunfire. I have less for the 67,000 Americans who knowingly choose to become addicted to a drug that is very dangerous and overdose. They are not victims they are participants. They chose their sad end. I had an excellent dentist who knowingly became addicted to F******l and was found at a rest stop dead because he chose to use a drug.

This isn’t Biden’s fault this is the fault of those who chose a very risky high and and lost the gamble.
Pulled from Quora... br br Try not to dismiss it,... (show quote)
About half of those drug deaths were between the ages of 10-19. Those are kids. Impressionable, vulnerable kids. Leaving the border pretty wide open and allowing Mexican cartels to control towns along it is a failure to do one of the things the government is actually there for - protect the citizens of the U.S.. In 2021 there were 15% more drug ODs (108,000) than in 2020. In 2020 there were 30% more drug ODs than in 2019.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/health/drug-overdose-deaths-record-high-2021/index.html
By your standards, I suppose you'd say that this is proof that Biden's efforts are working, but I counter with he's not doing all that he can, especially appointing VP Harris as the "Border Czar". I do not discount that America's appetite for illicit drugs is a major problem - and those who interdict these drugs are doing the best they can with what they have in terms of resources and authority. But that does not mean that if it was actually a priority for the Biden administration, we couldn't be doing a much better job, at least keeping these drugs out of the hands of our children. A hundred billion for Ukraine trying to get WWIII started? Where the hell are our priorities??

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Mar 19, 2023 03:32:51   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
permafrost wrote:
I am determined not to do that.. I may simply chew on willow bark rather then take aspirins... LOL


Me too permafrost. No pain reliever has been manufactured better (for me) than endorphins and hard work.

Gets the kinks out and sh!t done.

Miss MN, but not enough to return in the winter ❄️ !

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Mar 19, 2023 11:27:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Birdmam wrote:
Willow Bark is aspirin I think some N**i company made it. I think you should chew mushrooms. Bayer


LOL, you are correct.. Bayer was the one... miracle drug I suppose..

Never done the mushroom thing..do not think I ever will.

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