Another POV on a serious problem for America. (Page 2): That is an exaggeration Jim, but the numbers are bad and the worse we have had. And while the war on drugs seems unwinnable, we...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

JFlorio wrote:

F******l is now the leading cause of death for Americans between ages 18-45.

That is an exaggeration Jim, but the numbers are bad and the worse we have had. And while the war on drugs seems unwinnable, we sure as heck have to do more.. I have never had the problem in my family , but I know others who have and drug problems even if not resulting in overdose and death, become the center of conflict everyday for these unfortunate people..

BIRDMAN

permafrost wrote:

Pulled from Quora... br br Try not to dismiss it,... (show quote)

Why don’t we make it illegal

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

permafrost wrote:

That is an exaggeration Jim, but the numbers are bad and the worse we have had. And while the war on drugs seems unwinnable, we sure as heck have to do more.. I have never had the problem in my family , but I know others who have and drug problems even if not resulting in overdose and death, become the center of conflict everyday for these unfortunate people..

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-f******l-overdose-number-140100895.html

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Birdmam wrote:

Why don’t we make it illegal

Illegal??? have you had to get a pain k**ler prescription in the last year or so??

They would rather you sweat bullets than give you any opioid related remedy.. gee, you could become addicted..

BIRDMAN

permafrost wrote:

Illegal??? have you had to get a pain k**ler prescription in the last year or so??

They would rather you sweat bullets than give you any opioid related remedy.. gee, you could become addicted..

You are finally right about something. I do take prescription opioids.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

JFlorio wrote:

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-f******l-overdose-number-140100895.html

I in no way want to minimize the deadliness of f******l, but it is not the #1 k**ler of that or any age group. I looked at a number of statistics and while they did not use the 18 to 45 as an age group, rather they used 5 and 10 year age groups. but accidents were still the #1 k**ler over all the groups of young adults..

Now if we change the specification to "#1 drug k**ler for the age group" we will be spot on.

I did pull a line from you link, but it is also not quite what we are trying to define.. it groups the big 3 to out number f******l..

In the year ending in April 2021, there were 21,335 deaths from the c****av***s in this age group, along with 22,442 from automobile accidents, 17,114 from cancer, and 21,678 from suicide. That adds up to 82,569 deaths, or more than twice the 40,010 deaths from f******l overdoses that year.

Anyway we all know f******l is deadly, and should increase wh**ever we do in order to eliminate it.. as a pain k**ler I think a less dangerous substitute must exist..

Not sure where I found that info I posted, not from your link may have been CDC article, but I was going to cut it.. I do not think it matches what we were talking about.. but heck, let it be..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Birdmam wrote:

You are finally right about something. I do take prescription opioids.

UFF DA... be cautious.. I have taken them on past occasions.. but most of them make my sick and I hallucinate..

Got off em and they gave me Tylenol.. even after my valve job.. and brand new knee..

BIRDMAN

permafrost wrote:

UFF DA... be cautious.. I have taken them on past occasions.. but most of them make my sick and I hallucinate..

Got off em and they gave me Tylenol.. even after my valve job.. and brand new knee..

That’s why so many people are taking f******l. They’re in pain and their doctors will not prescribe them something that works.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Birdmam wrote:

That’s why so many people are taking f******l. They’re in pain and their doctors will not prescribe them something that works.

that could be true for some.. but going from meds prescribed by a Doc, to street drugs seems far to dangerous for anyone who can still think with any logic.. but I should add that with your mentioning of it, I have heard of that happening a number of times..

BIRDMAN

permafrost wrote:

that could be true for some.. but going from meds prescribed by a Doc, to street drugs seems far to dangerous for anyone who can still think with any logic.. but I should add that with your mentioning of it, I have heard of that happening a number of times..

They’re punishing the people that really need pain pills. And rewarding the people that are drug addicts.

Smedley_buzkill

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Only if they can afford it...

Few can, and most will not be rehabbed. However, I personally know three people, two dopers and a drunk, who applied themselves and turned it around. I admit, however, most are a waste of oxygen. We should at least throw them a lifeline. If they take it, great. If they don't, fuck 'em.

Smedley_buzkill

permafrost wrote:

UFF DA... be cautious.. I have taken them on past occasions.. but most of them make my sick and I hallucinate..

Got off em and they gave me Tylenol.. even after my valve job.. and brand new knee..

There was a point my sciatica was so bad I thought Tylenol was a food group.

Smedley_buzkill

permafrost wrote:

Illegal??? have you had to get a pain k**ler prescription in the last year or so??

They would rather you sweat bullets than give you any opioid related remedy.. gee, you could become addicted..

When I broke my back, I was in excruciating pain. I was given opioids, and I was still in excruciating pain, and constipated to boot.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Few can, and most will not be rehabbed. However, I personally know three people, two dopers and a drunk, who applied themselves and turned it around. I admit, however, most are a waste of oxygen. We should at least throw them a lifeline. If they take it, great. If they don't, fuck 'em.

I could go with giving them a single opportunity...
That's it...
I've seen the devastation they can cause...

Justice101

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

There was a point my sciatica was so bad I thought Tylenol was a food group.

Beware of prolonged ibuprofen use-can cause kidney failure after daily use for years. I have a close friend whose cousin is on dialysis due to her years of taking ibuprofen for pain.