6 year old shots teacher, Who's to Blame? (Page 3): The school. No question about it. That boy did not belong in a regular classroom . The parents are to blame, as well .

Skiladi

Gatsby wrote:

6-year-old boy who shot his teacher previously sai... (show quote)

The school. No question about it. That boy did not belong in a regular classroom . The parents are to blame, as well .

son of witless

pegw wrote:

How did a six year old get a hold of a loaded gun? I doubt he bought it a Walmart.The parents should have been required to take a gun safety course. Also parent's should held responsible for all of the teacher's medical bills and loss of salary. She has only been released from the hospital recently.

A gun safety course will not prevent stupidity. This kid had a whole history of behavior troubles that nobody wanted to deal with.

hygrometer3

Gatsby wrote:

6-year-old boy who shot his teacher previously sai... (show quote)

Sound like this kid is from hell or close to it??

Rowdy Yates

hygrometer3 wrote:

Sound like this kid is from hell or close to it??

Irrelevant question here, was this teacher trying to convince this child he was a r****t, a homophobe or g****r confused? Is there a legit reason the kid h**ed her that much? Maybe she was trying to talk him into a s*x c****e operation.

son of witless

Rowdy Yates wrote:

Irrelevant question here, was this teacher trying to convince this child he was a r****t, a homophobe or g****r confused? Is there a legit reason the kid h**ed her that much? Maybe she was trying to talk him into a s*x c****e operation.

There is no evidence of that. I think this teacher was a good person. The problem I believe was in the parents and the school. The parents for allowing a gun anywhere near this kid, and the school for ignoring the warning signs this kid previously put out.

Decades ago I remember reading about schools who allowed violent bullies to continue to attend school until they savagely beat up smaller children and left them with permanent injuries. Point being, schools are under so much pressure to mainstream children with behavior problems that they fail to remove the dangerous ones.

https://news.yahoo.com/6-old-boy-shot-teacher-125624888.html

" Virginia school officials are alleged to have downplayed concerns about the six-year-old boy that went on to shoot a teacher, including that he said he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, The Washington Post reported. "

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

pegw wrote:

How did a six year old get a hold of a loaded gun? I doubt he bought it a Walmart.The parents should have been required to take a gun safety course. Also parent's should held responsible for all of the teacher's medical bills and loss of salary. She has only been released from the hospital recently.

No.
The school district is responsible for the harm to the teacher, and THEY should be held financially responsible for all losses PLUS compensation to the teacher and her family. They failed in their most basic responsibility...to protect the children and their staff.
The boy getting the weapon is a separate issue. Yes, his parents are responsible for the weapon, and yes they should be held accountable ONCE WE LEARN THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THE BOY ACCESSED THE FIREARM. We also need to learn what kind of disability the boy has, and how his parents and the school failed to properly control him.
There is still a lot to learn about this case, but so far it is shaping up to be another case of a mentally unfit individual accessing a firearm, rather than the initial assumption that it was negligent parents allowing their kid access to a gun. Both may be true......we simply do not know right now.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Gatsby wrote:

No "gun safety storage protocols" permit leaving a loaded firearm accessible to any unsupervised 6 year old,

let alone a disturbed one. That is purely B.S. low life attempt to evade responsibility.

I don't necessarily agree with that statement, nor I do I disagree. You MAY be right....it MAY be pure BS. Has anyone revealed what steps the parents took to secure the firearm? How the boy managed to access the weapon? You are assuming the pistol was left loaded, but that has not been confirmed, as far as I have heard.
FACTs will matter in this situation.
So far, all we know for sure was that the boy DID access the firearm, and the school was criminally negligent in completely failing to protect students and staff, and criminally negligent even when prior instances sent up red f**gs and even when they inadequately investigated specific threats.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Justice101 wrote:

All of the above. Especially the School Superintendent for not removing the child from the school and refusing to recognize the danger that the child represented with his previous note and past violent actions in the classroom. The child needs psychiatric counselling or could be a product of his parents' r****t teachings.

Is the race of the child an issue here? I have not heard anything said about his race.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

son of witless wrote:

There is no evidence of that. I think this teacher... (show quote)

Good points. I think we are both in agreement.

moldyoldy

RandyBrian wrote:

I don't necessarily agree with that statement, nor... (show quote)

The mother said the gun was on the shelf in a closet and had a trigger lock. I wonder about the mental health of the parents since this child had such serious mental problems.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

moldyoldy wrote:

The mother said the gun was on the shelf in a closet and had a trigger lock. I wonder about the mental health of the parents since this child had such serious mental problems.

If she is being t***hful, then IMO the gun was NOT properly secured, especially in a home with a child with behavior issues.
Based on my training, a firearm is secured if it can NOT be accessed by ANYONE unauthorized, via some type of safe or containment system, or by being in the physical possession of an adult trained in it's proper use. A trigger lock is a last ditch method to slow down access when the primary security fails. I have heard of people who place a trigger lock on a pistol, then leave the firearm in the bed stand WITH THE KEY IN THE LOCK for faster access should the weapon be needed. Why bother with the lock????
That is the fallacy of trigger locks.....they give people the impression and 'excuse' that the weapon is secured when it is NOT! It gives fools the excuse to ignore personal responsibility.

son of witless

moldyoldy wrote:

The mother said the gun was on the shelf in a closet and had a trigger lock. I wonder about the mental health of the parents since this child had such serious mental problems.

I have known many families who had dangerous children. When you have one of those, you keep all potential instruments of harm, especially firearms out of reach.

moldyoldy

son of witless wrote:

I have known many families who had dangerous children. When you have one of those, you keep all potential instruments of harm, especially firearms out of reach.

That certainly makes sense. Nothing about this case makes sense.

son of witless

moldyoldy wrote:

That certainly makes sense. Nothing about this case makes sense.

I still say if you have a kid who is capable of shooting another person, you know it and you should not have a gun where he can get to it. I grew up with kids like that. Everybody knew who they were.

moldyoldy

son of witless wrote:

I still say if you have a kid who is capable of shooting another person, you know it and you should not have a gun where he can get to it. I grew up with kids like that. Everybody knew who they were.

The ones who would hit you in the head with a brick for laughing at them.