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Dec 3, 2022 14:24:48   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EmilyD wrote:
You are absolutely correct!!!!! And sadly, it's working on some people. I wish they could see that it's a ploy to keep on trashing Trump. I think De Santis could actually be a Democrat plant. Get him to run against Trump, and they both will lose, and the Dems win. We CAN'T be that stupid!!!

DeSantis should back down and let Trump run. Maybe he could be an advisor, or another part of Trump's administration, but when I hear people say they're going to stop supporting Trump and v**e for someone else, they are saying they are going to let the Democrats win. And that is how they want it. They are the great dividers, and it's working for them.
You are absolutely correct!!!!! And sadly, it's wo... (show quote)


So right emmyD.
Trump is the head and heart of the movement. No one else has his courage or vision to get America back on top where it belongs.
DeSantis is a participant, not a great leader.

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Dec 3, 2022 15:50:56   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
I believe that DeSantis should run for President and pick Trump as his Secretary of State. A win-win deal!



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Dec 3, 2022 15:53:50   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump will only accept King. If DeSantis runs and wins, he'll need Trump to bolster his resolve when the attacks and investigations and lawsuits come from the left. DeSantis on his own won't stand up to the onslaughts. He's rehearsed, and follows the script, but he's not genuine.


I repeat, IMO you are misjudging DeSantis. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I have come to respect you and your posts over the last few years, but I would like to know what such strong opinions about DeSantis are based upon.

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Dec 3, 2022 15:57:37   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
But I'm just afraid if Trump IS re-elected, it will just be be a re-play of the H3LL hole of 24/7 attacks on him and EVERYTHING he'd try to do just like the last 6+ years.....NOTHING gets done!!! Then they attack him saying he didn't accomplish anything ... because he was too busy defending himself with their incessant witch hunts.

The RATS have proved they will destroy America to get to Trump!!!!


I agree with you, but since that tactic worked against Trump, you can ABSOLUTELY COUNT on then employing exactly the same tactics against any non-Democrat who runs against them. We must find ways to counter these attacks.....because there is NO WAY to avoid them from now on.

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Dec 3, 2022 16:00:28   #
Mikeyavelli
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I repeat, IMO you are misjudging DeSantis. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I have come to respect you and your posts over the last few years, but I would like to know what such strong opinions about DeSantis are based upon.


Inflection, eye contact, choice of words, posture, general comportment, gravitas, strength of conviction.
He's good, but, he's not the leader we need now.
DeSantis would suffice holding the f**g after the battle, not during the battle.
(And, irrelevant I know, he looks like he has bad breath.)

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Dec 3, 2022 16:02:56   #
Mikeyavelli
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I agree with you, but since that tactic worked against Trump, you can ABSOLUTELY COUNT on then employing exactly the same tactics against any non-Democrat who runs against them. We must find ways to counter these attacks.....because there is NO WAY to avoid them from now on.


Yep, Republicans need to learn how to fight back with even dirtier tactics than the left uses. Right now, Republicans take the high road...and lose with dignity, but lose.

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Dec 3, 2022 16:05:17   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
You are absolutely correct!!!!! And sadly, it's working on some people. I wish they could see that it's a ploy to keep on trashing Trump. I think De Santis could actually be a Democrat plant. Get him to run against Trump, and they both will lose, and the Dems win. We CAN'T be that stupid!!!

DeSantis should back down and let Trump run. Maybe he could be an advisor, or another part of Trump's administration, but when I hear people say they're going to stop supporting Trump and v**e for someone else, they are saying they are going to let the Democrats win. And that is how they want it. They are the great dividers, and it's working for them.
You are absolutely correct!!!!! And sadly, it's wo... (show quote)


Emily, my dear and beloved sister, I hope you are not serious. DeSantis a Democrat plant???? No way in the world.
I am against Trump running for reasons I have expressed, and they are valid. In a perfect world, IMO, Trump would throw his full weight and support behind DeSantis, with Cruz or Rubio, or maybe Greg Abbott, as VP. He still might, though I suspect not. No future position for Trump should be announced before the e******n, because of his unfair branding. I think a DeSantis ticket, with Trump behind him, would win.

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Dec 3, 2022 16:10:38   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Yep, Republicans need to learn how to fight back with even dirtier tactics than the left uses. Right now, Republicans take the high road...and lose with dignity, but lose.


I think the high road is the correct one. Perhaps it is my Christian nature, but fighting hard is not the same as fighting dirty. I will not participate in the kind of tactics the left/Democrats use. We need to find hard, solid, and honest ways to defeat them. If we follow them into the pit, then what We The People will wind up with will be no difference between the parties.
The end NEVER justifies the means!

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Dec 3, 2022 16:39:03   #
Mikeyavelli
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I think the high road is the correct one. Perhaps it is my Christian nature, but fighting hard is not the same as fighting dirty. I will not participate in the kind of tactics the left/Democrats use. We need to find hard, solid, and honest ways to defeat them. If we follow them into the pit, then what We The People will wind up with will be no difference between the parties.
The end NEVER justifies the means!


I'll regain my sainthood status when the war is won.
Ain't no holier than thou tactics gonna beat 99.999% of corrupt Washington DC and every kommiecrat state v**e gathering operation overseen by corrupt courts and judges who defend the c***ting.
Eye gouging shouldn't just be tolerated by one side. Republicans need to gouge back or forever lose.

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Dec 3, 2022 18:07:32   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'll regain my sainthood status when the war is won.
Ain't no holier than thou tactics gonna beat 99.999% of corrupt Washington DC and every kommiecrat state v**e gathering operation overseen by corrupt courts and judges who defend the c***ting.
Eye gouging shouldn't just be tolerated by one side. Republicans need to gouge back or forever lose.


Then we must agree to disagree on this particular issue, my good friend.

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Dec 3, 2022 18:19:09   #
Mikeyavelli
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Then we must agree to disagree on this particular issue, my good friend.


Agree. We both want the same outcome.
🤜🤛

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Dec 3, 2022 18:34:12   #
EmilyD
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Emily, my dear and beloved sister, I hope you are not serious. DeSantis a Democrat plant???? No way in the world.
I am against Trump running for reasons I have expressed, and they are valid. In a perfect world, IMO, Trump would throw his full weight and support behind DeSantis, with Cruz or Rubio, or maybe Greg Abbott, as VP. He still might, though I suspect not. No future position for Trump should be announced before the e******n, because of his unfair branding. I think a DeSantis ticket, with Trump behind him, would win.
Emily, my dear and beloved sister, I hope you are ... (show quote)

I think that if DeSantis runs, it is a sure win for Democrats. If Trump does, there is a possibility he will be able to pull off a win. I sincerely do not think DeSantis has anywhere near the fan base Trump does, which means a guaranteed loss for Republicans if he is nominated. It would be much better if De Santis got behind Trump and supported him and campaigned alongside Trump, rather than against him. That's why I mention the plant. I have to wonder why De Santis would want to do that to America. Now that Trump has announced he wants to run, DeSantis should back off. It is too late for him to go against Trump.

What DeSantis does will tell the story....and if he screws things up for Trump, I will go ahead and wonder if he isn't just another way for the 'Rats to c***t.

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Dec 3, 2022 20:10:28   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Inflection, eye contact, choice of words, posture, general comportment, gravitas, strength of conviction.
He's good, but, he's not the leader we need now.
DeSantis would suffice holding the f**g after the battle, not during the battle.


(And, irrelevant I know, he looks like he has bad breath.)


Mikey, no one is asking you to kiss DeSantis, so you need not worry about his breath. IMHO, He is very definitely a conservative Republican.

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Dec 3, 2022 20:56:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
Mikey, no one is asking you to kiss DeSantis, so you need not worry about his breath. IMHO, He is very definitely a conservative Republican.


A conservative with halitosis.
That's why he's always at the podium 40 feet from the crowd.
Doubting his mettle, not his political stance. He reads his political stance very well. Get the liberal monkeys throwing schiff at him, and he'll make Mitt Romney look like a man again.
(Just speculating about the bad breath. And chubby cheeks.)

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Dec 3, 2022 23:05:49   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
I think that if DeSantis runs, it is a sure win for Democrats. If Trump does, there is a possibility he will be able to pull off a win. I sincerely do not think DeSantis has anywhere near the fan base Trump does, which means a guaranteed loss for Republicans if he is nominated. It would be much better if De Santis got behind Trump and supported him and campaigned alongside Trump, rather than against him. That's why I mention the plant. I have to wonder why De Santis would want to do that to America. Now that Trump has announced he wants to run, DeSantis should back off. It is too late for him to go against Trump.

What DeSantis does will tell the story....and if he screws things up for Trump, I will go ahead and wonder if he isn't just another way for the 'Rats to c***t.
I think that if DeSantis runs, it is a sure win fo... (show quote)


You are correct in that DeSantis does not (yet) have Trump's fan base. But he also does not have a list of NEVER EVER Trumpers that includes virtually ALL Democrats, the vast majority of rino Republicans, and the majority of independent low information v**ers. Those folks will NEVER v**e for Trump. Many of them MIGHT for DeSantis, if he runs a good and honest campaign, and embraces conservatism nationally like he has in Florida.
That's my take on it, for what it is worth.

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