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Dec 1, 2022 16:39:56   #
EmilyD
 
Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
January 19, 2016
Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

*******************************************************

When Trump was in office, he proved Mr. Massie's essay to be true. He fixed things....big things. He came close to fixing the southern border crisis. He fixed unemployment to record lows. He was respected by most foreign leaders, and the ones who didn't like him still respected his pragmatical approaches to solving our nation's problems. He's not perfect - nobody is - but he came pretty close to running this country in a way that was satisfactory to most of us regular working folks. Anyone who tells me they think they are better off now than we were three years ago is deluding themself. There is no way that this inflation and all the ramifications from it is a "good" thing for America or Americans. -- All my opinion.

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Dec 1, 2022 17:20:12   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
January 19, 2016
Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

*******************************************************

When Trump was in office, he proved Mr. Massie's essay to be true. He fixed things....big things. He came close to fixing the southern border crisis. He fixed unemployment to record lows. He was respected by most foreign leaders, and the ones who didn't like him still respected his pragmatical approaches to solving our nation's problems. He's not perfect - nobody is - but he came pretty close to running this country in a way that was satisfactory to most of us regular working folks. Anyone who tells me they think they are better off now than we were three years ago is deluding themself. There is no way that this inflation and all the ramifications from it is a "good" thing for America or Americans. -- All my opinion.
u Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist /... (show quote)


Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is why a lot of people turned to him. I never liked him. As a person. But after getting in, I started to like the fact that he was taking a pragmatic approach to a lot of America's ills. And there are many. I h**ed his tweets. Beneath the dignity of the office. But the press made him their enemy and he had to fight back with the weapon he knew. Tweets.

Being retired I found myself on OPP. I love it. I love a good political discussion. I have learned a lot from postings and statements from so many on OPP that are on the right. I see almost nothing but hatred, pure hatred, and destructive policies on the left.

I attack so many of what I can only identify as l*****t trolls, because of their constant lies, false hoods and cheap baiting; because when you let this bull s**t go by without calling it out for what it is, and showing what the t***h is, innocent people start believing it. And the worst damage of that is, they become democrats. Hopefully, at least some of the time, some might just see the t***h of what we are saying about these democrat lies.

In the interval, I get a lot of t***h and good posts from the right. We sure aren't getting it from main stream media and social media. I've learned a lot. Thanks for those Right posters who are so right.

This started out as a comment about President Trump being a pragmatist. I like to think that I look at a lot of things as, 'what is Right/Correct.' What is the Logical way to look at things. I'm not a lawyer and I've never accused a lawyer of being logical. What is the logical approach to solving the problem. That is a good part of what I did all my life. Solve problems with a practical solution. Usually more Right and about freedom then Left. Pragmatic. As such, I often come to solutions that haven't been heard before, or real minority viewpoints, only because others haven't heard of those solutions or thought of those solutions. I get some good compliments for some of them. And of course arguments from the Left. But why can't we look to solve problems and issues, by fucking with what the law says, and seeing what is right and why and how can we implement that idea. Logically, by being pragmatic.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on calling out the bad ideas and lies and trying to find good solutions and bringing out new ideas for old problems, etc.

Logically Right

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Dec 1, 2022 17:29:24   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is why a lot of people turned to him. I never liked him. As a person. But after getting in, I started to like the fact that he was taking a pragmatic approach to a lot of America's ills. And there are many. I h**ed his tweets. Beneath the dignity of the office. But the press made him their enemy and he had to fight back with the weapon he knew. Tweets.

Being retired I found myself on OPP. I love it. I love a good political discussion. I have learned a lot from postings and statements from so many on OPP that are on the right. I see almost nothing but hatred, pure hatred, and destructive policies on the left.

I attack so many of what I can only identify as l*****t trolls, because of their constant lies, false hoods and cheap baiting; because when you let this bull s**t go by without calling it out for what it is, and showing what the t***h is, innocent people start believing it. And the worst damage of that is, they become democrats. Hopefully, at least some of the time, some might just see the t***h of what we are saying about these democrat lies.

In the interval, I get a lot of t***h and good posts from the right. We sure aren't getting it from main stream media and social media. I've learned a lot. Thanks for those Right posters who are so right.

This started out as a comment about President Trump being a pragmatist. I like to think that I look at a lot of things as, 'what is Right/Correct.' What is the Logical way to look at things. I'm not a lawyer and I've never accused a lawyer of being logical. What is the logical approach to solving the problem. That is a good part of what I did all my life. Solve problems with a practical solution. Usually more Right and about freedom then Left. Pragmatic. As such, I often come to solutions that haven't been heard before, or real minority viewpoints, only because others haven't heard of those solutions or thought of those solutions. I get some good compliments for some of them. And of course arguments from the Left. But why can't we look to solve problems and issues, by fucking with what the law says, and seeing what is right and why and how can we implement that idea. Logically, by being pragmatic.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on calling out the bad ideas and lies and trying to find good solutions and bringing out new ideas for old problems, etc.

Logically Right
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is w... (show quote)



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Dec 1, 2022 17:42:27   #
David L Loc: Central Wisconsin
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is why a lot of people turned to him. I never liked him. As a person. But after getting in, I started to like the fact that he was taking a pragmatic approach to a lot of America's ills. And there are many. I h**ed his tweets. Beneath the dignity of the office. But the press made him their enemy and he had to fight back with the weapon he knew. Tweets.

Being retired I found myself on OPP. I love it. I love a good political discussion. I have learned a lot from postings and statements from so many on OPP that are on the right. I see almost nothing but hatred, pure hatred, and destructive policies on the left.

I attack so many of what I can only identify as l*****t trolls, because of their constant lies, false hoods and cheap baiting; because when you let this bull s**t go by without calling it out for what it is, and showing what the t***h is, innocent people start believing it. And the worst damage of that is, they become democrats. Hopefully, at least some of the time, some might just see the t***h of what we are saying about these democrat lies.

In the interval, I get a lot of t***h and good posts from the right. We sure aren't getting it from main stream media and social media. I've learned a lot. Thanks for those Right posters who are so right.

This started out as a comment about President Trump being a pragmatist. I like to think that I look at a lot of things as, 'what is Right/Correct.' What is the Logical way to look at things. I'm not a lawyer and I've never accused a lawyer of being logical. What is the logical approach to solving the problem. That is a good part of what I did all my life. Solve problems with a practical solution. Usually more Right and about freedom then Left. Pragmatic. As such, I often come to solutions that haven't been heard before, or real minority viewpoints, only because others haven't heard of those solutions or thought of those solutions. I get some good compliments for some of them. And of course arguments from the Left. But why can't we look to solve problems and issues, by fucking with what the law says, and seeing what is right and why and how can we implement that idea. Logically, by being pragmatic.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on calling out the bad ideas and lies and trying to find good solutions and bringing out new ideas for old problems, etc.

Logically Right
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is w... (show quote)


Your post looks, well, logically right. !!

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Dec 1, 2022 17:48:03   #
EmilyD
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is why a lot of people turned to him. I never liked him. As a person. But after getting in, I started to like the fact that he was taking a pragmatic approach to a lot of America's ills. And there are many. I h**ed his tweets. Beneath the dignity of the office. But the press made him their enemy and he had to fight back with the weapon he knew. Tweets.

Being retired I found myself on OPP. I love it. I love a good political discussion. I have learned a lot from postings and statements from so many on OPP that are on the right. I see almost nothing but hatred, pure hatred, and destructive policies on the left.

I attack so many of what I can only identify as l*****t trolls, because of their constant lies, false hoods and cheap baiting; because when you let this bull s**t go by without calling it out for what it is, and showing what the t***h is, innocent people start believing it. And the worst damage of that is, they become democrats. Hopefully, at least some of the time, some might just see the t***h of what we are saying about these democrat lies.

In the interval, I get a lot of t***h and good posts from the right. We sure aren't getting it from main stream media and social media. I've learned a lot. Thanks for those Right posters who are so right.

This started out as a comment about President Trump being a pragmatist. I like to think that I look at a lot of things as, 'what is Right/Correct.' What is the Logical way to look at things. I'm not a lawyer and I've never accused a lawyer of being logical. What is the logical approach to solving the problem. That is a good part of what I did all my life. Solve problems with a practical solution. Usually more Right and about freedom then Left. Pragmatic. As such, I often come to solutions that haven't been heard before, or real minority viewpoints, only because others haven't heard of those solutions or thought of those solutions. I get some good compliments for some of them. And of course arguments from the Left. But why can't we look to solve problems and issues, by fucking with what the law says, and seeing what is right and why and how can we implement that idea. Logically, by being pragmatic.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on calling out the bad ideas and lies and trying to find good solutions and bringing out new ideas for old problems, etc.

Logically Right
Pragmatist. Now that is a good term. And that is w... (show quote)


Well said!

Trump gets criticized for being too egotistical. I don't think that's right. I think he is confident in himself...and I for one appreciate a president who has confidence in himself. I sure don't want someone who is a wishy-washy namby-pamby about us and our country!

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Dec 1, 2022 18:21:43   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
January 19, 2016
Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

*******************************************************

When Trump was in office, he proved Mr. Massie's essay to be true. He fixed things....big things. He came close to fixing the southern border crisis. He fixed unemployment to record lows. He was respected by most foreign leaders, and the ones who didn't like him still respected his pragmatical approaches to solving our nation's problems. He's not perfect - nobody is - but he came pretty close to running this country in a way that was satisfactory to most of us regular working folks. Anyone who tells me they think they are better off now than we were three years ago is deluding themself. There is no way that this inflation and all the ramifications from it is a "good" thing for America or Americans. -- All my opinion.
u Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist /... (show quote)


But, but, but he was mean to those who were trying to destroy him. He had mean tweets.
We'd rather have 6 dollar gas and 15% inflation and paid r********ns to other countries because Americans burn gasoline and ruin the weather for people who live Outer Nowheria. We need i*****l i*******ts to teach us how to live. We need China to dominate.
We can't stand mean tweets.

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Dec 1, 2022 18:38:42   #
EmilyD
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
But, but, but he was mean to those who were trying to destroy him. He had mean tweets.
We'd rather have 6 dollar gas and 15% inflation and paid r********ns to other countries because Americans burn gasoline and ruin the weather for people who live Outer Nowheria. We need i*****l i*******ts to teach us how to live. We need China to dominate.
We can't stand mean tweets.


Let's see...mean tweets or $8 gas? Mean tweets or beef at $15/lb? Mean tweets or not eating out???

I'm all for Trump's mean tweets! AND his funny ones and his love for America ones!!

He probably won't go back on Twitter, though. He's trying to get T***h Social off the ground and I think he wants his followers there and not on Twitter....but we'll see. He may change his mind for 2024!! 👍👍👍

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Dec 1, 2022 22:07:44   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EmilyD wrote:
Let's see...mean tweets or $8 gas? Mean tweets or beef at $15/lb? Mean tweets or not eating out???

I'm all for Trump's mean tweets! AND his funny ones and his love for America ones!!

He probably won't go back on Twitter, though. He's trying to get T***h Social off the ground and I think he wants his followers there and not on Twitter....but we'll see. He may change his mind for 2024!! 👍👍👍

Trump is funny. Those who don't like him are devoid of humor and common sense. Trump is the greatest president in modern history, perhaps in all American history. He spoke in blunt t***hs and remedied the nation's problems.
The left has no humor.

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Dec 2, 2022 09:27:01   #
Snoopy
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
January 19, 2016
Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

*******************************************************

When Trump was in office, he proved Mr. Massie's essay to be true. He fixed things....big things. He came close to fixing the southern border crisis. He fixed unemployment to record lows. He was respected by most foreign leaders, and the ones who didn't like him still respected his pragmatical approaches to solving our nation's problems. He's not perfect - nobody is - but he came pretty close to running this country in a way that was satisfactory to most of us regular working folks. Anyone who tells me they think they are better off now than we were three years ago is deluding themself. There is no way that this inflation and all the ramifications from it is a "good" thing for America or Americans. -- All my opinion.
u Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist /... (show quote)


Emily:

All TOO TRUE! Trump may have many faults but in the end he was successful! Perhaps too successful and made politicians worry about their future if the public caught on that they are a DO NOTHING crowd. Trump was very dangerous and could possibly upset their GOLDEN applecart!

Snoopy

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Dec 2, 2022 10:02:49   #
EmilyD
 
Snoopy wrote:
Emily:

All TOO TRUE! Trump may have many faults but in the end he was successful! Perhaps too successful and made politicians worry about their future if the public caught on that they are a DO NOTHING crowd. Trump was very dangerous and could possibly upset their GOLDEN applecart!

Snoopy

Trump is an exposer. He shines a light in dark places where the 'Rats keep their dirty little secrets. They are terrified he will come back to expose more and more of their lies and corruption.

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Dec 2, 2022 11:29:34   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump is an exposer. He shines a light in dark places where the 'Rats keep their dirty little secrets. They are terrified he will come back to expose more and more of their lies and corruption.


Trump is the only one with the courage to expose the corruption in Washington DC. That's why everyone is against him. They want Desantis, who will fold like a hundred dollar tip in a waiter's pocket.

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Dec 2, 2022 11:41:06   #
EmilyD
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump is the only one with the courage to expose the corruption in Washington DC. That's why everyone is against him. They want Desantis, who will fold like a hundred dollar tip in a waiter's pocket.

Doesn't anyone wonder why Nancy quit in such a hurry and scurried off to Europe? I wouldn't be surprised if she is the most corrupt politician in DC. She better run away before they get her, her husband, her son and any other family members who are involved in her inside trading s**m....

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Dec 2, 2022 12:06:32   #
1ProudAmerican
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump Is Not Conservative, He's A Pragmatist
January 19, 2016
Mychal Massie

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff – appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn’t a Republican problem – it isn’t a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn’t a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through a Carl’s Hamburgers.

I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; 2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a`-vis donations; 3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and 4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worst off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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When Trump was in office, he proved Mr. Massie's essay to be true. He fixed things....big things. He came close to fixing the southern border crisis. He fixed unemployment to record lows. He was respected by most foreign leaders, and the ones who didn't like him still respected his pragmatical approaches to solving our nation's problems. He's not perfect - nobody is - but he came pretty close to running this country in a way that was satisfactory to most of us regular working folks. Anyone who tells me they think they are better off now than we were three years ago is deluding themself. There is no way that this inflation and all the ramifications from it is a "good" thing for America or Americans. -- All my opinion.
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Dec 2, 2022 13:39:41   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EmilyD wrote:
Doesn't anyone wonder why Nancy quit in such a hurry and scurried off to Europe? I wouldn't be surprised if she is the most corrupt politician in DC. She better run away before they get her, her husband, her son and any other family members who are involved in her inside trading s**m....

Nancy has much to be thankful for.
And her hubby's hammer fetish is affordable.



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Dec 2, 2022 13:42:21   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump is the only one with the courage to expose the corruption in Washington DC. That's why everyone is against him. They want Desantis, who will fold like a hundred dollar tip in a waiter's pocket.


I think you are misjudging DeSantis. While I would happily v**e for Trump again, I would likewise enthusiastically support a run by DeSantis.
I have seen nothing to make me doubt his intentions or ability, or his commitment to conservatism.
Please, and this is to everyone, let's not fall victim to the bad mistake of 'promoting' Trump' by attacking DeSantis, or vise versa. It is not a question of which is right or wrong, but which would do be best job for We The People. I believe either one would be fantastic.

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