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Nov 21, 2022 07:01:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
Kevyn wrote:
You can also organize and form a strong union. Twitter is ripe for it.


Unions are out. They rape their members by mandating that they contribute their salaries to pay for l*****t demorat causes. Teachers unions are a prime example of that.

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Nov 21, 2022 10:46:31   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
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Your ignorance is so broad and destructive. You've never earned a way of life, or run a business. Go back to school and learn at least how to earn honest living, thru hard work. Learn how companies and businesses work.

Elon Musk is right in re-organizing this new Twitter that he solely owns. He spent $44 billion one of the biggest investments he put on the market.

It is his right to re-organize and put up new policies how to run effective business. I would do the same what Elon is doing. All economists understand that Elon must establish policies that will positively benefit the company as well as all employees of the company.


I will do the same, removing all prior employees, start to select those with the greatest resume's relevant to the demands of the jobs. Insure that employees goals, and feelings towards the company is loyal and productive.

Those who quit or removed, can re-apply if interested. This will give Elon the opportunity to know them better. He is the new owner, and does not know these old employees.

Require them to present their resume's that summarize their achievements and attitude towards the company. If satisfactory, Elon can prioritize hiring them back. Or if merits did not meet expectations, it is the right of Elon to choose from the market the best suitable to fit in the Twitter environment he wants to establish.

This is how companies, or any offices select employees. The best and who have education and sk**ls relevant to the job, comply policies, dependable, loyal and with the foresight of both of growing his own success and the company's.

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Nov 21, 2022 13:06:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
The guy has no sense of caution filters when deali... (show quote)


woodguru; Is your ignorance really a lack of facts, or on purpose?

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Nov 21, 2022 13:08:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Unions are out. They rape their members by mandating that they contribute their salaries to pay for l*****t demorat causes. Teachers unions are a prime example of that.


"Unions are out. They rape their members by mandating that they contribute their salaries to pay for l*****t demorat causes. Teachers unions are a prime example of that." - Big Kahuna

Yep!
Parents have been woken up, and are now paying more attention.

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Nov 21, 2022 14:09:02   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
The guy has no sense of caution filters when deali... (show quote)


If you don't want to work for a guy like that, don't! In America, you get to conduct business without worrying about political correctness and the feelings of others. You also get to choose whom you work for. So far......

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Nov 21, 2022 14:16:44   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
The guy has no sense of caution filters when deali... (show quote)


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It is utterly amazing how lefties come out of the woodwork to tell Musk how he sinned, or how he should act in reforming Twitter. Evidently, they envied the old Twitter ways, and dreamed of installing them everywhere when they had the power. Plus, the multiple degrees of freedom from a totally lax management allowed the Twitterites enormous privileges largely unknown to most commercial enterprises. The second and third levels of management there must go!

I do not cry for the Twitterites of old!

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Nov 21, 2022 14:16:53   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
Kevyn wrote:
You can also organize and form a strong union. Twitter is ripe for it.


I finally agree with you 100%. Union wages and benefits built the Middle Class. As far as the whining, moaning and b***hing that goes on in the media about America being such a bad place, why does almost everyone in the World want to come here? Opportunity is still number one, if you are an American, your only limits are self-imposed.

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Nov 21, 2022 14:22:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
coelacanth wrote:
I finally agree with you 100%. Union wages and benefits built the Middle Class. As far as the whining, moaning and b***hing that goes on in the media about America being such a bad place, why does almost everyone in the World want to come here? Opportunity is still number one, if you are an American, your only limits are self-imposed.


I tink kemmer wants and needs special treatment.

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Nov 21, 2022 14:33:30   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
coelacanth wrote:
I finally agree with you 100%. Union wages and benefits built the Middle Class. As far as the whining, moaning and b***hing that goes on in the media about America being such a bad place, why does almost everyone in the World want to come here? Opportunity is still number one, if you are an American, your only limits are self-imposed.


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I take the opposite view on unions, especially in a high-tech area where regulation and serious time-of-delivery problems loom literally every day. Unions stifle creativity, mobility, and continually make unreasonable demands on the company, and then freeze everything if their demands are not met by striking. Thus, stopping committed deliveries in their tracks.

The real answer is a well-thought-out personnel plan and policy, hiring bonuses, compensation for moving in, highly competitive wage scale, vacation and other time-off needs, plus very good insurances and medical benefits as well as bonuses for outstanding work. The overhead and pain of unions can and should be avoided completely. I'd rather pay the employee higher, than forcing him to pay union dues. I'd rather build a management staff and policies that have the employee's welfare at heart than find a union boss at my office door.

Employees are hired to perform work at the behest of management and the owner, and they must sign an agreement; 1) that their creative contributions belong to the company, and 2) that they understand the company does not want to unionize.

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Nov 21, 2022 14:34:55   #
Bevvy
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
The guy has no sense of caution filters when deali... (show quote)


You loved this fellow until he started talking about free speech , then went to hating on him

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Nov 21, 2022 15:17:41   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Bevvy wrote:
You loved this fellow until he started talking about free speech , then went to hating on him


Real free speach is something the Left can't tolerate.
For them; that is a losing proposition.

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Nov 21, 2022 15:55:32   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
manning5 wrote:
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I take the opposite view on unions, especially in a high-tech area where regulation and serious time-of-delivery problems loom literally every day. Unions stifle creativity, mobility, and continually make unreasonable demands on the company, and then freeze everything if their demands are not met by striking. Thus, stopping committed deliveries in their tracks.

The real answer is a well-thought-out personnel plan and policy, hiring bonuses, compensation for moving in, highly competitive wage scale, vacation and other time-off needs, plus very good insurances and medical benefits as well as bonuses for outstanding work. The overhead and pain of unions can and should be avoided completely. I'd rather pay the employee higher, than forcing him to pay union dues. I'd rather build a management staff and policies that have the employee's welfare at heart than find a union boss at my office door.

Employees are hired to perform work at the behest of management and the owner, and they must sign an agreement; 1) that their creative contributions belong to the company, and 2) that they understand the company does not want to unionize.
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I believe unions and mgt., working together as a team, cannot fail. Sensible contracts assure this success. Look at General Motors, Ford and Chrysler for examples. Benefits and wages go up, as the success builds this partnership. It's a win/win thing!

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Nov 21, 2022 15:57:36   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
The guy has no sense of caution filters when dealing with employees as people, the guy literally thinks people can be bullied and badgered into totally senseless degrees of compliance with his concepts that are beyond stupidity. The guy just seems to like to make people dance to his personal tune.

I've known people that have this style of management, which seems to consist of just how stupidly people can be made to do things...examples such as sweeping and cleaning floors in a shop right in the middle of making a serious mess, it makes no sense to spend half an hour doing the end of the day cleanup twice. I asked a guy repeatedly, did he want me to be able to get a priority job done by the end of the day or did he want to keep taking people away from their jobs to do the things you would normally do at the end of the day after the job is completed.

Musk seems to be trying to create a group that will do wh**ever he wants, will work insane hours, and I'm sure he has no intention of paying people for the 80 hour weeks he wants to demand they do.

I had to pressure illustrators back in the late 70's to work longer hours, it was extremely tricky how you worded forced overtime, never mind the fact that if people are working it they will get paid time and a half or double time beyond 12 hours.

Too many greedy employers are into gaming their employees on overtime they are getting paid for themselves, then they don't want to kick down the time and a half to the people doing the work. Musk creates chaotic pressures by reducing staff, then plays a team player card where he represents the need for exceptional employees that are willing to do insane pushes to save a company. People have a right to refuse to work at abusive levels when the management has created the problem in the first place.
The guy has no sense of caution filters when deali... (show quote)


He's smart enough to clean out the Twitter Swamp.

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Nov 21, 2022 15:59:17   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
coelacanth wrote:
I believe unions and mgt., working together as a team, cannot fail. Sensible contracts assure this success. Look at General Motors, Ford and Chrysler for examples. Benefits and wages go up, as the success builds this partnership. It's a win/win thing!


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Agree to disagree!

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Nov 21, 2022 15:59:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Be good for you to hear what a famous l*****t has to say.

Piers Morgan roasts left's 'miserably predictable' meltdown over Elon Musk

Twitter employees:

"How am I supposed to do actual work when I'm a neurodivergent furry with a debilitating anxiety disorder? If I'm fired, where will I spend my days drinking wine and playing hacky sack? This is inhumane!"

"We're in a real pickle. Most of us don't even have job titles, per se. We just sort of hang around and get upset about politics. Now we have nowhere to go!"

"I know I used to do something. I mean, I use Twitter. That's kind of like a job. I do lots of activist posting where I punch up at rich white men. That's important."


Many employees, who reportedly have salaries in excess of $150,000 a year, have shared that they don't even remember what they were hired to do in the first place.
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You are so good at digging up stuff like this.

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