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It is the fear of life, not death, that is our problem
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Oct 2, 2014 00:45:28   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
The topic is, It is the fear of life, not death, that is our problem.

Death seems all cozy for you? Give it a try and let us know how it went, o.k.?

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Oct 2, 2014 01:49:33   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I hope that you were not writing this to me. I have no fear of either. I take each day as it comes.

America Only wrote:
The topic is, It is the fear of life, not death, that is our problem.

Death seems all cozy for you? Give it a try and let us know how it went, o.k.?


:thumbup: :thumbup: :D :D

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Oct 2, 2014 08:42:21   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
This entire exchange has nothing to do with the thread. I responded to Robby 1. I had no intention of engaging you, I simply replied to Robby 1. I gave my point of view to him, and expected him to respond if they had more to add.

He sees all humans as dead. I wanted to give him another view. I did want to give you a different view or food for thought, only the person that saw humans as dead. You invited yourself into the conversation. I responded to you. Yes, I should have known better, but I made the mistake of responding to your statements.

If you wish to think that I was insulting, then fine. Think it. But, remember just because you think something is true, does not make it true. And remember, you entered into the conversation......

Now for your questions or points or wh**ever you are calling them:

You quoted me as follows: " We do not need to continue in our past wickedness, but we have he tyranny emerging out of so-called progressive programs pushed by the Left”

What I wrote was: “We do not need to continue in our past wickedness, but we have the ability to make better choices.”

Look at them, they are back to back. So, yes you changed my words.

We are given free will by God, therefore we can choose to act wrongly, say harsh things, steal, c***t, use God’s name when swearing, and the list goes on. We can choose to do right.

I responded to your comment, “But a Christian does not have "the ability to make better choices." That is the central difference between OT and NT”

I clearly said that “Atonement for all is prayer. Are you saying that prayer is only an OT thing?”

Sacrifice is mentioned as atonement in the OT, I simply wanted you to know that this has not been available after the fall of the Temple. It was replaced with prayer.

Are you now done with this? It is silly, immature, a waste of time and energy and I am done with it.

Good night
This entire exchange has nothing to do with the th... (show quote)



You quoted me as follows: " We do not need to continue in our past wickedness, but we have he tyranny emerging out of so-called progressive programs pushed by the Left”
ginnyt, I changed nothing; it was a simple cut and paste from your original post. You had to have changed it after I copied and pasted and either forgot or it was an attempt to make me look bad.

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Oct 2, 2014 09:12:31   #
rumitoid
 
America Only wrote:
The topic is, It is the fear of life, not death, that is our problem.

Death seems all cozy for you? Give it a try and let us know how it went, o.k.?


Bonhoeffer knew that when God calls someone he bids him “come and die.” Dying to self and sin is never easy. But neither is it a mere matter of willing, of “decide to grow.” It involves letting God change you and that can be horribly hard and painful. It is a kind of death. The fear of life comes from not wanting to do and become what God will make of us through the complete surrender of our will. It is not up to us, as Christians, to make better choices; it is simply to allow the HS to t***sform us. The will is always meant to be passive, not active.

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Oct 2, 2014 10:02:33   #
robby1
 
ginnyt wrote:
Robby,

I have always known God, the one true God. I do not really think too much about the world to come. I live each day with great joy because I am thankful to my God for his blessings and mercy. I do not have a fear of death, it is just not important to me. I wake in the mornings with a prayer of thanks, I stop often throughout my day to give thanks for simple things and not just the large blessings. I can see His work in all things. He has a plan, of that I am sure. At night, I go to sleep without fear and again with a prayer of thanks. If it is His will, I will awaken again in the beauty of the world God designed and spoke into being. Eternity does not interest me, for what will come will come.

I have some thoughts about the individual you consider the 13th Apostle and his traveling companion Luke. He was quite the one man band.
Robby, br br I have always known God, the one tru... (show quote)


It is important for each individual to live life as they wish. You live your life in your own special way. I live my life the same way. The way we look at life is our own business. I can see that you are a kind and compassionate person. If everybody lived their life like that this would be a better world. We all live by what we know or are taught and by experience. You probably know things that I don't. I know things that you don't. I can't build bridges and have no desire too. I am glad there are people who do build bridges. They make life a little easier. We in this life have all the things to sustain life. We were born into these things. We did nothing to make it happen. We contributed nothing to being born into this life. Our experiences in life take us down different roads. Are you wrong or am I wrong in the way we live. We both eat and drink. We get sick and sometimes that sickness ends our life. We have no control over that either. Everybody starts their life with mama or dada. What happens after that is all experience of life. Opinions are like noses, everybody has one. My opinion and a buck will buy me a cup of coffee. I am not to concerned about knowing all things, I just want to know the right things to live in this world just like everyone else. I am not looking for fame or fortune. Just a kind word, a good morning, and have a nice day. Life is short so I just want to live everyday as if it were my last. It just might be, I don't know. The death percentage in this world is one hundred percent. Between birth and death I just want to live and let live. If I can cheer somebody up it would be nice. If I can help someone it would be better. And to love somebody it would be best. Some once said, good, better, best, never let it rest, until the good is better and the better best. Life is short, if I make everybody sad, then who is left to make me happy.

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Oct 2, 2014 10:08:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
You quoted me as follows: " We do not need to continue in our past wickedness, but we have he tyranny emerging out of so-called progressive programs pushed by the Left”
ginnyt, I changed nothing; it was a simple cut and paste from your original post. You had to have changed it after I copied and pasted and either forgot or it was an attempt to make me look bad.


Here we go again. No one can change your post, they can only change the copied or the quoted portion. Once you write it and hit send, you or the monitors are the only people that can make a change and the poster only has an hour in which to make that change. Contact the admin and ask them yourself.
I can not believe that you are blaming me for what you did!

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Oct 2, 2014 10:12:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Excellent post. I could not agree more. So, here is your good morning and I wish you a very wonderful day!!

robby1 wrote:
It is important for each individual to live life as they wish. You live your life in your own special way. I live my life the same way. The way we look at life is our own business. I can see that you are a kind and compassionate person. If everybody lived their life like that this would be a better world. We all live by what we know or are taught and by experience. You probably know things that I don't. I know things that you don't. I can't build bridges and have no desire too. I am glad there are people who do build bridges. They make life a little easier. We in this life have all the things to sustain life. We were born into these things. We did nothing to make it happen. We contributed nothing to being born into this life. Our experiences in life take us down different roads. Are you wrong or am I wrong in the way we live. We both eat and drink. We get sick and sometimes that sickness ends our life. We have no control over that either. Everybody starts their life with mama or dada. What happens after that is all experience of life. Opinions are like noses, everybody has one. My opinion and a buck will buy me a cup of coffee. I am not to concerned about knowing all things, I just want to know the right things to live in this world just like everyone else. I am not looking for fame or fortune. Just a kind word, a good morning, and have a nice day. Life is short so I just want to live everyday as if it were my last. It just might be, I don't know. The death percentage in this world is one hundred percent. Between birth and death I just want to live and let live. If I can cheer somebody up it would be nice. If I can help someone it would be better. And to love somebody it would be best. Some once said, good, better, best, never let it rest, until the good is better and the better best. Life is short, if I make everybody sad, then who is left to make me happy.
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Oct 2, 2014 11:11:41   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
Here we go again. No one can change your post, they can only change the copied or the quoted portion. Once you write it and hit send, you or the monitors are the only people that can make a change and the poster only has an hour in which to make that change. Contact the admin and ask them yourself.
I can not believe that you are blaming me for what you did!


When the edit feature is still active you can. I DID NOT CHANGE YOUR POST. There was no earthly reason to change your post. Please do not start this stuff again.

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Oct 2, 2014 11:20:06   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Ask the admin if anyone can change what another person writes. AND YES YOU DID CHANGE IT!!! The proof is on the screen, go and look at both, your avatar is on the right side it is what you quoted..... When you get the response back from Admin, post that response.

rumitoid wrote:
When the edit feature is still active you can. I DID NOT CHANGE YOUR POST. There was no earthly reason to change your post. Please do not start this stuff again.

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Oct 2, 2014 11:35:04   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
Ask the admin if anyone can change what another person writes. AND YES YOU DID CHANGE IT!!! The proof is on the screen, go and look at both, your avatar is on the right side it is what you quoted..... When you get the response back from Admin, post that response.


I am saying that you changed what you wrote while the edit feature was still on: that is entirely possible. And when you do, there is no record of the changes made; it reads as if the original post. I swear I did not change your post; I had no reason or even thought to do so. My last response to this.

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Oct 2, 2014 11:43:02   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Go ask Admin if this can be done. Then post their reply.

rumitoid wrote:
I am saying that you changed what you wrote while the edit feature was still on: that is entirely possible. And when you do, there is no record of the changes made; it reads as if the original post. I swear I did not change your post; I had no reason or even thought to do so. My last response to this.

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Oct 2, 2014 21:28:05   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
Go ask Admin if this can be done. Then post their reply.


Aaaarrrgg, everyone or nearly knows that if you edit, not quote reply, your comments, the results of what was previously written, go unrecorded. Try it. Post a thread and then go back and "edit" it: it will read as if the original words. No history of what was once said. If someone changes their post and someone has already used quote reply, it will not change that quote reply. As in my case with ginnyt.

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Oct 2, 2014 21:31:57   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
rumitoid wrote:
Bonhoeffer knew that when God calls someone he bids him “come and die.” Dying to self and sin is never easy. But neither is it a mere matter of willing, of “decide to grow.” It involves letting God change you and that can be horribly hard and painful. It is a kind of death. The fear of life comes from not wanting to do and become what God will make of us through the complete surrender of our will. It is not up to us, as Christians, to make better choices; it is simply to allow the HS to t***sform us. The will is always meant to be passive, not active.
Bonhoeffer knew that when God calls someone he bid... (show quote)


And this all has WHAT to do with you locking yourself in the trunk of your car and leaving the engine running how?

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Oct 2, 2014 21:34:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Go look at the avatar on both posts. Mine has my little green saying, yours is a bald man sitting on a much too small bike. Now read the last sentence of both. Mine is right above yours. If I had changed what you wrote, my avatar would show. But, does not happen. So, go ask admin if this is possible for me to pirate your avatar and pretend to change my comments.

And if it were possible, then Admin would not have needed to write the following into the help function: "- We do not generally delete old images/posts at user's request unless there is a valid reason. So if you don't want your content to be shown here indefinitely, then please don't post it here in the first place. The reason for that is simple: deleting one user's posts usually requires deleting responses posted by other users. So for the sake of keeping the forum stable, we maintain this policy." If what you suggest can happen, then there would be no requirement for Admin to make their point that they will not delete, which implies that you too are not able to delete.

Now go look at the original post, see the avatar and look at what you wrote immediately under it. Now send an PM to admin and ask them the same question. And post it. As I did on another thread, where you went back and rewrote your comment.. The original stayed along with anyone who quoted you and then your rewritten posts show, independent of the first. You must remember the thread..... when you said that I had deleted a previous post.


rumitoid wrote:
Aaaarrrgg, everyone or nearly knows that if you edit, not quote reply, your comments, the results of what was previously written, go unrecorded. Try it. Post a thread and then go back and "edit" it: it will read as if the original words. No history of what was once said. If someone changes their post and someone has already used quote reply, it will not change that quote reply. As in my case with ginnyt.

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Oct 2, 2014 21:46:52   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
Go look at the avatar on both posts. Mine has my little green saying, yours is a bald man sitting on a much too small bike. Now read the last sentence of both. Mine is right above yours. If I had changed what you wrote, my avatar would show. But, does not happen. So, go ask admin if this is possible for me to pirate your avatar and pretend to change my comments.

And if it were possible, then Admin would not have needed to write the following into the help function: "- We do not generally delete old images/posts at user's request unless there is a valid reason. So if you don't want your content to be shown here indefinitely, then please don't post it here in the first place. The reason for that is simple: deleting one user's posts usually requires deleting responses posted by other users. So for the sake of keeping the forum stable, we maintain this policy." If what you suggest can happen, then there would be no requirement for Admin to make their point that they will not delete, which implies that you too are not able to delete.

Now go look at the original post, see the avatar and look at what you wrote immediately under it. Now send an PM to admin and ask them the same question. And post it. As I did on another thread, where you went back and rewrote your comment.. The original stayed along with anyone who quoted you and then your rewritten posts show, independent of the first. You must remember the thread..... when you said that I had deleted a previous post.
Go look at the avatar on both posts. Mine has my ... (show quote)


Edit allows for changes that go unrecorded as being different from the original. Try it!

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