OT prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the NT (Page 4): I wasn't trying to demean you though I've seen you do so perhaps without intention. And you've done it a lot.

Rose42

Michael Rich wrote:

So you study, but try to demean me as someone who is just being told.

Do you see how "sister Mary better than you" that looks.

I'll guarantee that you aren't even close to me in actual study hours.

I can tell by how quickly you come up with a reason to not back your words with substance.

Have you never learned anything from anybody?

Or is that you just repeating their opinion?

I wasn't trying to demean you though I've seen you do so perhaps without intention. And you've done it a lot.

Apparently you are being convicted because now you're just being silly. Have at it.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Michael Rich wrote:

What's your point?

The Hebrew word כוּר transliterated kā·’ă·rî is a verb that means to bore, or dig, or hew.

Hence I brought up to bore, dig or hew something can be translated to pierce i.e. to dig a hole in the ground or to pierce the ground as with a shovel. Hence using the same word, they pierced His hands and feet.

Makes perfect sense to me, sorry if in your stiff-neckedness you can't make the connection.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Rose42 wrote:

I wasn't trying to demean you though I've seen you do so perhaps without intention. And you've done it a lot.

Apparently you are being convicted because now you're just being silly. Have at it.

Not at all and I don't want to get off on something that is not Germaine to one's religious beliefs.

Rose, if I may, the other day you said that God accepts traditional pagan symbolism as long as it's offered in the correct way.

I hope that you remember posting that.

I know that you're not a flaming liberal, so I know that you know that in the Bible, homosexuality is described as an abomination.

Abominable behaviour rises above normal sins.

That raises two simple questions that I'm sure that you can easily answer.

Does that philosophy cover gay pride parades by Christian gays?

God accepts their flippantly effeminate public display of their abominable lifestyle as long as they say "it's in honor of God"?

I'm fully aware that all humans belong to the Creator and he loves them all.

Brotherly love.

But could these people worship next to you "at church" without ceasing to live an abominable lifestyle?

My apologies, I left three ? marks.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Parky60 wrote:

The Hebrew word כוּר transliterated kā·’ă·rî is a verb that means to bore, or dig, or hew.

Hence I brought up to bore, dig or hew something can be translated to pierce i.e. to dig a hole in the ground or to pierce the ground as with a shovel. Hence using the same word, they pierced His hands and feet.

Makes perfect sense to me, sorry if in your stiff-neckedness you can't make the connection.

Okie dokie.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Michael Rich wrote:

Okie dokie.

Helluva refute.

Rose42

Michael Rich wrote:

Not at all and I don't want to get off on something that is not Germaine to one's religious beliefs.

Rose, if I may, the other day you said that God accepts traditional pagan symbolism as long as it's offered in the correct way.

No I didn't. Those are your words. I said it was the intent he looks at and there is nothing inherently wrong in celebrating Christmas and Easter. Christians are also no longer under Mosaic law

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Yes he loves us all, however that doesn't mean we can live in open defiance. That's what those who live the homosexual lifestyle are doing. If you studied when you were a Christian then you know the process to try and get them to repent. And no, this has nothing to do with holidays if that's where you're going. Lol

You also know that we are no longer under the law.

"Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" Galatians 2:16

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Rose42 wrote:

Yes he loves us all, however that doesn't mean we ... (show quote)

The serpent in the garden used the argument that God doesn't mean what He says and he doesn't have to be obeyed.

I'll have to believe that the Almighty Lord was not confused when he gave his commandments to be followed "forever"

The Greco/Roman religion that has taken on the name of Christianity is full of paganism.

It doesn't matter how many different ways that man can try to justify being a pagan.

Paganism in no way honors the God of purity.

Jesus was a man and most Christians don't have a clue as to what "messiah" was supposed to accomplish in his time....and most Christians don't want to be bothered with the details.

Rose42

Michael Rich wrote:

The serpent in the garden used the argument that G... (show quote)

You apparently have no clue either. Its a win for Satan when someone has the information about Christ but then rejects him.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Rose42 wrote:

You apparently have no clue either. Its a win for Satan when someone has the information about Christ but then rejects him.

Your opinion is always welcome, doesn't have to be correct, but is still very much welcome with me.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Michael Rich wrote:

Okie dokie.

Didn't have anything to say about the rest of Psalm 22 or Psalm 69?

Rose42

Michael Rich wrote:

Your opinion is always welcome, doesn't have to be correct, but is still very much welcome with me.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Parky60 wrote:

Didn't have anything to say about the rest of Psalm 22 or Psalm 69?

No, you wiggled out from the specific purpose part of the matter.

I don't care what some player of word games posts.

The point of the matter is the word was mistranslated from the original Hebrew text.

It's a simple fact to trace out.

But the fact that a word was misused to fit the Greco/Roman story apparently has no bearing on you accepting it as Almighty God's unchangeable word.

But the fact remains that it "was changed" and spoken of like it was prophecy fulfilled.

A honest student of truth would find that to be odd, to say the least.

Rose42

Michael Rich wrote:

No, you wiggled out from the specific purpose part... (show quote)

No, its not a "simple fact". That is your opinion that it was mistranslated as there is much to indicate it was not. Jewish scholars didn't/don't get everything right. The word wasn't used to fit any "Greco/Roman" story. That's like claiming islam is not a false religion.

Its no coincidence that those who reject the Messiah say its mistranslated because Christ offends them.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Rose42 wrote:

No, its not a "simple fact". That is your opinion that it was mistranslated as there is much to indicate it was not. Jewish scholars didn't/don't get everything right. The word wasn't used to fit any "Greco/Roman" story. That's like claiming islam is not a false religion.

Its no coincidence that those who reject the Messiah say its mistranslated because Christ offends them.

Neither Jesus or his flock offend me.

To me it's just like l am very outspoken against the leftist ideology.

And liberals claim that my view is a bigot or racist against their beliefs, and they make such outlandish claims as an attack to play the victim.

You, Rose aren't a offensive person at all.

But Parky trying say that he's been ordained with the power to curse me if he can't convert me...is comical.

He's going to stamp some dust of curses where he believes that it will be harder on me than it was on Sodom and Gomorrah.

He is the offended one.

That's a good example of a novice who shouldn't even be a deacon or an elder.