Like the common false belief that anyone would k**l under the right circumstances, many claim people can't change: Do you? (Page 2): Thank you for an actual opinion.

rumitoid

JW wrote:

It is long established that there are two fundamental drivers of behavior, nature and nurture. Any aspect of nurture is changeable. No aspect of nature is changeable.

So, under the proper circumstances, everyone will k**l because k*****g is natural. Under the right circumstances, everything does it.

Thank you for an actual opinion.

rumitoid

JW wrote:

It is long established that there are two fundamental drivers of behavior, nature and nurture. Any aspect of nurture is changeable. No aspect of nature is changeable.

So, under the proper circumstances, everyone will k**l because k*****g is natural. Under the right circumstances, everything does it.

Good. Thank you for an actual opinion on the topic.

EmilyD

rumitoid wrote:

Lol. Always the spin of my thread being somehow sinister.

Sinister is not the word I would use. But of course it makes sense that you would not get it.

rumitoid

EmilyD wrote:

Sinister is not the word I would use. But of course it makes sense that you would not get it.

Okay.

Wonttakeitanymore

rumitoid wrote:

I don't have proof, affidavits and the like, but I... (show quote)

Jesus changes the hardest of hearts!

Wonttakeitanymore

rumitoid wrote:

Lol. Always the spin of my thread being somehow sinister.

It usually is!!

billy a Loc: South Florida

rumitoid wrote:

I don't have proof, affidavits and the like, but I... (show quote)

There's a joke that pops up from time-to-time in my 12-Step group ; A woman storms into a meeting, enraged..."My husband was a regular Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!!" So, what's the problem?, someone asked...
"You sobered-up the WRONG ONE !!"

rumitoid

Liberty Tree wrote:

Do you apply that to yourself?

That I can change, for better or worse, yes.

rumitoid

EmilyD wrote:

Of course not. Someone that thinks as highly of himself as he does would never believe that he needs to make any changes. Remember...he is the receiver of several miracles from the gods of health!

Always nasty to me and no comment on the topic. It appears you can't change, hoho.

rumitoid

son of witless wrote:

Of course people can and do change. Your context i... (show quote)

My premise was that people can change.

rumitoid

EmilyD wrote:

I'll tell you what rumitoid is doing in his post means me: I see that he is judging... again. When he says he "knows people can really and truly change" in a post that implies that is a 'good' thing, that is him sitting on his high horse and "approving" that someone else has changed to his imperial liking. Change can be good or bad, and is a personal thing that happens within someone's being. It should never be done to appease someone else's wishes either way.

Oy vey again, you are just totally absorbed in hating me and having no comments--again!--on the thread.

rumitoid

archie bunker wrote:

Where do you come up with this crap?

I damn well know that I'll k**l under the right circumstances.
Should I change, and just sit back, and observe harm being perpetrated on myself, or someone I love?
Here in Texas, those who do that are pussies.

People can, and do change all the time.
Some can, and do.
Some can't, and won't change.

Or, are we talking about change that meets your own specific criteria?

To your last question, my premise was simply people can change, how or why and to what is at God's purpose. Your own specific criteria that you will k**l you apply to others who would not as "pussies."

rumitoid

JW wrote:

It is long established that there are two fundamental drivers of behavior, nature and nurture. Any aspect of nurture is changeable. No aspect of nature is changeable.

So, under the proper circumstances, everyone will k**l because k*****g is natural. Under the right circumstances, everything does it.

Please tell me where you got it is natural to k**l and nurture having no say.

rumitoid

Wonttakeitanymore wrote:

Jesus changes the hardest of hearts!

Yes.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

rumitoid wrote:

To your last question, my premise was simply people can change, how or why and to what is at God's purpose. Your own specific criteria that you will k**l you apply to others who would not as "pussies."

Maybe "pussies" was the wrong word. How about weak?
Or even animal instinct. We are basically animals, with the same protective instincts as other animals.
We are all made by God.

Why don't you go see if you can convince a mother bear to not k**l a predator who is hurting her cubs?

The world is a brutal place, even in nature, and the strong survive.