son of witless

Only those who constantly want want want free stuff are for bigger and bigger guvment. That is why C****efornia keeps v****g in Scumo-Crats.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

What??? 50% pay over $25 grand in taxes???

sorry, you lost me...

America 1 Loc: South Miami

I know that was a little confusing,
anything above $25,000.00 you pay on 1/2 or $12,500.00.
The tax is calculated on $12,500.00 if $25,000.00 is the amount you made for the year.
Anyone making $25,000.00 in 1983 was likely doing fairly well.
Average home $75,000.00.
Car $6116.00.
Gas 90 cents a gallon.
Average income $12,200.00.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

OK... I think I can follow along..

but is the year correct? 1983.. we had the gas shortage in the 70s.. it seems to me that the price at the pump stayed near 2$ forever.. but I could be wrong..

America 1 Loc: South Miami

I was a little low
1982 $1.22
1983 $1.16
1984 $1.13
1985 $1.12
1986 $0.86
1987 $0.90
1988 $0.90

1973 $0.39
1974 $0.53
(Source: https://www.creditdonkey.com/gas-price-history.html#average)
AMERICA OUT OF GAS: Unreal Images From The 1973 Oil Crisis
https://www.businessinsider.com/1973-oil-crisis-photos-2013-10
1989 $1.00 (Source: https://www.creditdonkey.com/gas-price-history.html#average)

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Wow, my memory of gas prices is way off.. and 73 @ .39... boy that is a distant thought..

Interesting price history for sure.. thanks..

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Yeah, the most interesting part is prices during the embargo.
It's doubtful many enjoyed the wait or that 39 cents a gallon.
Many likely paid a lot more.

elledee

stated by a person who is definitely an expert in alternative realities. your threads and posts are so devoid of reality and facts.... I am sure the many truly enlighten people on this site are scratching a bald spot on their heads trying to figure out how in the world you ever got this crazy notion you even remotely have a clue about anything. Your ignorance is deafening....With all so called due respect

rumitoid

I h**e to point out something obvious but to actually dismiss my facts, not "opinion," you need to present evidence from a reputable source proving that I am wrong. Or you are just displaying blind partisanship.

rumitoid

No, it is added support. My point was how bad CPAC has become.

rumitoid

Excellent!

son of witless

You are wrong. This guy changed. Many men when they get old betray their former principles and become liberals.

Gatsby

I distinctly recall filling my gas tank for 19.9 cents per gal. on 3/20/1972.

Gas "wars" were big in those days.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Energy companies and government taxes
Federal taxes include excises taxes of 18.3 cents per gallon on gasoline and 24.3 cents per gallon on diesel fuel, and a Leaking Underground Storage Tank fee of 0.1 cents per gallon on both fuels.
Topping the list of states with the highest gas taxes in Pennsylvania at 77.10 cents per gallon
California comes in second on the list of states with the highest gas tax at 72.76 cents per gallon.
https://flexfleetrental.com/states-highest-gas-tax/

This calculator uses the official Consumer Price Index for Electricity from the U.S. Bureau ... Electricity costing $100 in 1913 would cost $473.06 in 2021
One hundred years of price change: the Consumer Price Index and the American inflation experience
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/article/one-hundred-years-of-price-change-the-consumer-price-index-and-the-american-inflation-experience.htm

JohnCo

You write about "i*****l a***ns", "freebies", etc. So I looked it up: I entered this to the DuckDuckGo.com search engine:

i*****l i*******ts benefits

The results say, in part:

"In general, unauthorized immigrants within the United States are not eligible for any federal public benefits, except: Emergency medical treatment under Medicaid, if the individual otherwise meets the eligibility requirements and the medical condition is not related to an organ t***splant procedure"

That's not the whole story, of course; it's just an indication that their access to benefits may be much more limited than your description.

I also did this search:

i*****l i*******ts contribut

and these are some of the results:

"In fact, like all others living and working in the United States, undocumented immigrants are taxpayers too and collectively contribute an estimated $11.74 billion to state and local coffers each year via a combination of sales and excise, personal income, and property taxes, according to Undocumented Immigrants' State and Local Tax Contributions by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy."

"Undocumented immigrants contribute to the economy. It is not only immigrants, who are legally present in the U.S., who are paying taxes. Undocumented immigrants make important contributions as well. An analysis based on the U.S. Census and other data estimated that undocumented immigrants paid $11.7 billion in state and local taxes."

"Research shows that Undocumented immigrants increase the size of the U.S. economy/contribute to economic growth, enhance the welfare of natives, contribute more in tax revenue than they collect, reduce American firms' incentives to offshore jobs and import foreign-produced goods, and benefit consumers by reducing the prices of goods and services."

Aside from reading what organizations have written (as above), how much can an ordinary individual know about i*****l i*******ts (they are not immediately identifiable)? I've seen lots of people who _could_ have been i*****l i*******ts, and I've gotten to know a few, but how would I know their legal status? If they're not volunteering such information then I feel it would be rude of me (also unnecessary) to ask. What I have noticed is that a wide variety of people who either look like they came from some other country, or seem to have limited fluency in English, appear to behave just as honorably and work at least as hard as people who are fluent in English and who look to me like legal citizens. That is, the ones who look like they could be i*****l i*******ts don't behave any worse than ordinary U.S. Americans do, and don't appear to be freeloaders.

The worst-behaving people I've met or seen have been some of the ordinary-looking, ordinary-sounding U.S. Americans.

About me: I grew up in the middle of the U.S.A., speak fluent English, and am a 3rd- or 4th- or 5th-generation U.S. American myself; and I look white like most such people do, and so did my parents and all my grandparents -- all of us have been typical English-speaking middle-class mongrels descended mostly from Western Europeans.